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| Shohei Ohtani |
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50 | 59.52% |
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| Hey, the national league has an MVP too you know! |
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Mr-Spain posted:https://twitter.com/jessespector/status/1605559696773025799?s=46&t=5QvyM0rHXW_frTHI_QFEaA https://twitter.com/JeffPassan/status/1605792960834052099?s=20&t=9mv6-vq0j46RZ-222eNjqg
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If it's over an almost decade old ankle injury than yeah that's Giant's FO getting cold feet and trying to get a discount. No wonder Correa/Boras went with the Mets offer almost immediately, they were unlikely to get much more from the Giants if they were resorting to that kinda last minute pressure tactics.
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Dec 22, 2022 07:09
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Hey Steve I play mens adult rec league baseball, if you need a 15th outfielder I will sign for like 1/15.
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Dec 22, 2022 07:11
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is it ok that I giggled at his name
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Dec 22, 2022 07:14
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Sydin posted:STAC Goat I don't know what to tell you other than you seem to be defaulting to an owner-favoring narrative which is potentially the dumbest possible thing you could be defaulting to. It was pretty obvious (moreso now that it was about the ankle injury in the minors lol) the Giants upper mgmt had buyers remorse or cold feet, whatever. Quite the strange hill to die on.
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Dec 22, 2022 08:08
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Sydin posted:They also did it to Boras, who just isn't going to put up with that poo poo. Brian Sabean seemed to intentionally avoid taking any Boras contracts ever again in the years following the Barry Zito contract. He was also well known among fans for thinking that superstars are too risky when there was gold buried somewhere in a dumpster. After Farhan took over, he was promoted to some title where he doesn't make baseball decisions but likely hobnobs with the owners group. Completely baseless talk radio caller take here, but I suspect the Giants old guard ripped the controls out of Zaidi's hands on this one. I wouldn't be surprised if he resigns, because why work for people such as this and besides they seem happy to let social media spew on him without even so much a standard corporate "we have faith in our baseball operations team" kind of message, like the kind they puke out when the team's elderly owner is found donating to alt-right political agitators. On that matter however, I also think that "he was getting dressed" story is just Boras being his usual bullshit self. He was previously calling the Giants "the thinking team" and said Rodon "sculpted yet another masterpiece" in the same breath. That guy needs hyperbole like humans need air. Craptacular! fucked around with this message at 08:15 on Dec 22, 2022 |
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Dec 22, 2022 08:10
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Somewhat lost in all this is that Correa is going to play 3b after being billed as the top short stop free agent this off season lol
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Dec 22, 2022 08:14
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I assume he'll be fine there but there'll probably be an adjustment period He's not A-Rod though, his offensive numbers aren't quite as impressive for a 3B. A-Rod's of course were impressive for any position at all
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Dec 22, 2022 08:16
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Boras deserves a plaque next to Marvin Miller and Curt Flood
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Dec 22, 2022 08:33
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Babe, wakeup, new billionaire tears just dropped: Steve Cohen’s Mets spending spree and the ramifications for the rest of the league quote:As baseball’s wealthiest owner, Cohen is better positioned to assemble a super-team than any other. But the fraternity of owners does not usually look kindly to those who break from the pack, particularly when it raises costs for them. “I think it’s going to have consequences for him down the road,” said an official with another major league team who was not authorized to speak publicly. “There’s no collusion. But … there was a reason nobody for years ever went past $300 million. You still have partners, and there’s a system.” quote:But the Mets’ winter is Both sides, except really only ownerside posted:“Our sport feels broken now,” a different rival executive said Wednesday. “We’ve got somebody with three times the median payroll and has no care whatsoever for the long-term of any of these contracts, in terms of the risk associated with any of them. How exactly does this work? I’m having a hard time wrapping my head around it.” quote:“I think everyone in this room understands that we have a level of revenue disparity in this sport that makes it impossible for some of our markets to compete at some of the numbers we’ve seen,” commissioner Rob Manfred said generally at the Winter Meetings earlier this month. “And, you know, that’s not a positive. It’s like everything else in life, there’s good and bad in it.” Outside of "There's no collusion but we collude", these are the most risible quotes from the piece: quote:“If he would have went up to the Cohen tax, a little over, I think he would have been fine,” the club official said of Cohen. “But the fact that he blew past it, it kind of like embarrassed Rob and a lot of people. He went so far beyond it, it rendered the whole CBA — made them look stupid on the CBA negotiation. He flaunted it in their face.” Look at this stupid horseshit. Look at it. Drink it in. quote:The “Cohen tax” isn’t doing much of anything to deter its namesake, and Manfred might have some increasingly unhappy owners to calm down because of that. Pathetic and shameful.
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Dec 22, 2022 15:53
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It's not fair! We're all stupidly, absurdly rich, but Cohen is MORE stupidly, absurdly rich! 
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Dec 22, 2022 16:16
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People are asking a lot of questions about my “There’s no collusion, BUT” tshirt
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Dec 22, 2022 16:52
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if you’re gonna have to have billionaire owners they might as well be ones that give a poo poo about their teams rather than regarding them as a slush fund or a tax shelter. But then I grew up with Ted Turner.
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Dec 22, 2022 16:55
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Monthly reminder there is no such thing as a "small market" just cheap owners who either don't want to spend money or don't care about how well the team does (or both)
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Dec 22, 2022 17:04
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damnit Steve Cohen stop making me want to like you
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Dec 22, 2022 17:06
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Popete posted:damnit Steve Cohen stop making me want to like you He can't stay away from twitter forever.
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Dec 22, 2022 17:09
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Bob Nutting is the 10th richest owner in the league and the Pirates are run like a team who has to dig in the couch cushions just to keep the lights on
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Dec 22, 2022 17:13
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there's no collusion, but there's a reason teams haven't gone past 300 million in payroll (collusion)
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Dec 22, 2022 17:17
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You have partners. There's a system. Where you suppress player wages through a structure of formal and informal agreements. It's like how you're not supposed to steal bases when you have a giant lead, only this violates labor laws.
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Dec 22, 2022 17:26
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Nodoze posted:Bob Nutting is the 10th richest owner in the league and the Pirates are run like a team who has to dig in the couch cushions just to keep the lights on
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Dec 22, 2022 17:29
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The Yankee beard rule is so loving dumb.
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Dec 22, 2022 17:32
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mcmagic posted:The Yankee beard rule is so loving dumb. Hey, a good mcmagic take that everyone can appreciate
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Dec 22, 2022 17:35
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mcmagic posted:The Yankee beard rule is so loving dumb. Agreed, Yankees discourse should always stick to what truly matters! Did Aaron Judge's record season... Earn him his Pinstripes? 
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Dec 22, 2022 17:37
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So the Mets snagging Correa wasn't an Arctic blast-induced dream?
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Dec 22, 2022 17:39
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Mustached Demon posted:So the Mets snagging Correa wasn't an Arctic blast-induced dream? No, but he still needs to pass his physical which is happening today!
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Dec 22, 2022 17:43
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ihatepants posted:Hey, a good mcmagic take that everyone can appreciate mcmagic is the best yankees poster here and it isn't even a contest
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Dec 22, 2022 17:53
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Nodoze posted:Monthly reminder there is no such thing as a "small market" just cheap owners who either don't want to spend money or don't care about how well the team does (or both) Every single team could afford to field a $200 million payroll.
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Dec 22, 2022 18:10
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Nodoze posted:Monthly reminder there is no such thing as a "small market" just cheap owners who either don't want to spend money or don't care about how well the team does (or both) I follow a fair few Tigers fans on twitter as well as Detroit adjacent discord, and they are absolutely loving apoplectic that Chris Illitch won't spend any money
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Dec 22, 2022 18:26
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MLB Offseason: There's no collusion... but-
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Dec 22, 2022 18:30
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Sydin posted:MLB Offseason: There's no collusion... but- I think we already have that thread title.
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Dec 22, 2022 18:31
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Kevlar v2.0 posted:Every single team could afford to field a $200 million payroll. 48% of all local revenue is now split evenly among all 30 teams. On top of this they get the national tv revenue (including postseason) evenly split. This year MLB boasted of total revenues in excess of $11B. Divided by 30 teams that’s an average of $366 M per team. Average payroll per team was $148M. Where’d that other $218M per team go? 
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Dec 22, 2022 18:34
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elentar posted:if you’re gonna have to have billionaire owners they might as well be ones that give a poo poo about their teams rather than regarding them as a slush fund or a tax shelter. But then I grew up with Ted Turner. Turner didn't do anything for half, if not more of his ownership. In the 1970s, Turner pissed off the league with his tactics and pocketbook to sign Gary Matthews. Andy Messersmith was another early high profile signing. Then Turner stopped spending. Atlanta had what was considered the worst field in baseball in the 1980s. There were contract disputes with the extremely popular Noc-a-homa, with the end result that his perch was torn out for more seats. That was an accidental good thing because Noc-a-homa was a pretty drat racist thing to have. Bruce Sutter was the only notable signing of the 1980s and it backfired bad. With the Atlanta Hawks, there was a time where it was believed that Turner was intentionally tanking them so he could move the squad to Charlotte. The 1991 team was built on trades and cheap signings. Greg Maddux was the first splash Turner made arguably since Matthews. The last years saw the checkbooks open greatly, but Turner was considered a bad owner for a long time.
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Dec 22, 2022 18:35
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bawfuls posted:Average payroll per team was $148M. Where’d that other $218M per team go? 
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Dec 22, 2022 18:37
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look I know all that I was very much there, it’s just that it was funny and also Turner could at least admit he was wrong eventually? which ultimately came from him giving a poo poo about the team
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Dec 22, 2022 18:41
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maffew buildings posted:mcmagic is the best yankees poster here and it isn't even a contest 1000% true
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Dec 22, 2022 18:49
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ShaneMacGowansTeeth posted:I follow a fair few Tigers fans on twitter as well as Detroit adjacent discord, and they are absolutely loving apoplectic that Chris Illitch won't spend any money Seattle sports radio showing they are in Mariners pocket with calling Mariners fans greedy for being pissed off they did poo poo all spending money when for years were promised when the competitive window opened they would spend money.
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Dec 22, 2022 18:50
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Just do be the Astros, don't spend money and then also be awesome every year.
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Dec 22, 2022 18:51
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Its Rinaldo posted:Seattle sports radio showing they are in Mariners pocket with calling Mariners fans greedy for being pissed off they did poo poo all spending money when for years were promised when the competitive window opened they would spend money. Can't spend money if no one wants to sign to play for you which is a different and difficult problem to fix. They could've gotten Nimmo probably but do you want to pay Mitch Haniger+ 8/$200 million? Spending a bunch of money on FA would be cool to see from the M's but idk, maybe I'm way more cynical than most fans. I assume they'll run a high payroll of the low 200's when Julio is clearly in his athletic prime and that's maybe 5 years from now.
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Dec 22, 2022 18:54
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https://twitter.com/Feinsand/status/1605984729647325184 lol jesus christ
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ShaneMacGowansTeeth posted:I follow a fair few Tigers fans on twitter as well as Detroit adjacent discord, and they are absolutely loving apoplectic that Chris Illitch won't spend any money the javy bounceback year is going to be insane, i still believe
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