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“Walk away from the ruin. Do it for the working class.” “Also she was way too bougie, she was doing class tourism/slumming with you”
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:There's a LOT of art training in the backgrounds of the DE devs, so I'm assuming they'd be aware of this, but that doesn't mean they were necessarily meaning to use the square halo in this fashion. Icons are also a thing in Estonia. Atleast they were last time I was in Tallinn. It’s a place collectors go to buy them.
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A Bystander posted:They discuss toward the end that this kind of thing has apparently happened at least twice before if I remember correctly. Presumably, this time would be the one that sticks and that he won't gently caress himself this bad enough for a fourth since either Jean and co. trust him enough to let him back on the force or Jean tells him to get his poo poo together and call him back in a few months' time if he can do it, which would imply that Jean has enough faith that Harry has a chance to not let this kind of thing happen to him again. Trant describes them as dry runs, I think so the implication would be that they were on a much smaller scale than this one
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I got the impression Harry maybe has had some benders in the past that caused memory loss or "episodes" but the implied pale-mind-wipe he did this time might be different, it's just that your unit doesn't have a full understanding of what happenedMystic Mongol posted:Bird Nest's Roy. Lena, the Cryptozoologist's wife. Annette is a good girl. Cindy the Skull's doing more practical work to improve the neighborhood than anyone else. Easy Leo. Gaston Martin. Those two dorks in the communard vision quest, once they've been told to stop being jerks to Cindy. But in the context of kind/people who are not bad, I feel like the Dicemaker is one that people didn't mention.
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harry’s previous bouts of self-annihilation didn’t resolve with him having a life-affirming conversation with the insulindian phasmid
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There's versions of the game where Harry has woken up and continued to party hard and be a chaotic mess, and versions where he's trying to get his poo poo together. It's difficult for the game to fully account for what the player intended by that.
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Oxyclean posted:But in the context of kind/people who are not bad, I feel like the Dicemaker is one that people didn't mention. Threw my loving dice at me.
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Revvik posted:Threw my loving dice at me. shoulda put more points in reaction speed. (or hand-eye?)
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Oxyclean posted:shoulda put more points in reaction speed. (or hand-eye?) Hand/Eye Coordination is for the dice. Reaction Speed is for the church key. 
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The lookin ball. Lmao
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Oxyclean posted:I feel like I almost want an elaboration on the bolded bit (Cindy good.) Unless I missed stuff, a small amount of graffiti constitutes "practical work to improve the neighborhood" in the sense that compared to all other characters, its literally more the nothing I guess. Basically, yes. I was looking for people who were making more of an effort to improve Martinaise than Kim does. Roy gave his health to save the lives of others, Lena will sell her keepsakes to keep a hobo off the street, Leo's working hard to help his brothers without being too concerned about what that does for him, Gaston's warm and friendly to people who don't deserve it, and the communards are trying their level best, even if they're completely useless. I'm still on the fence about Garte, who had depths. Cindy doesn't like her neighborhood, but is using her skills to improve it, those skills being artistic composition and siphoning fuel from parked cars. Kim suffers because all the opportunities to be a good cop are eaten by the protagonist, but I can only judge the work in front of me. The one time you see Kim really do cop stuff without just being your sidekick is out on the ice, when he tries to trick Acele Berger into incriminating herself on being a drug dealer. Kim's a nice guy, but he's a cop, and we see what that means to him--looking for reasons to bring the law down on people. And always, 24/7, being ready to defend a crazy lunatic from the consequences of his actions, because of Esprit de Corps. Nearly everyone in Martinaise has given up on helping others--altruism has been bombed out of the city. Oxyclean posted:But in the context of kind/people who are not bad, I feel like the Dicemaker is one that people didn't mention. Oh, I thought about her. But I was looking for people actively improving things, not just being nice--nearly everyone in the game is kind to the brain-damaged supercop, in their own way.
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It's kind of funny that Trent doesn't get even a fraction of the hate leveled at the Sunday Friend.
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Trant struck me as being a pinko or even a crypto-communist but I guess it contradicts all the circumstantial evidence of his moralism.
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Rogue AI Goddess posted:It's kind of funny that Trent doesn't get even a fraction of the hate leveled at the Sunday Friend. trent doesn't try to justify any of the horrible poo poo currently going on, and doesn't actually have any meaningful power like the sunday friend does. he just tells you kinda interesting facts about an old building.
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He's also the fall back option for advancing the moralism quest if you missed/pissed off the Sunday Friend so you can take on responsibility and learn when freedom and true democracy is finally coming to Revachol. Which is, according to the Moralists you contact, 3,000 years
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Rogue AI Goddess posted:It's kind of funny that Trent doesn't get even a fraction of the hate leveled at the Sunday Friend. LOGIC [Medium: Failure]: It's because of Homophobia.
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Sunday Friend sounds so much like every blathering mid-level Brussels bureaucrat that it’s uncanny, both the actual lines of obfuscating dialogue and the accented English VA.
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FPyat posted:Trant struck me as being a pinko or even a crypto-communist but I guess it contradicts all the circumstantial evidence of his moralism. That and in the final shivers check on the revolution, he's a no.
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Trant is something more vile than a moralist, or even the most rigid of fascists: he's a genuine moderate. Shudder.
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Trent is a nerd on the spectrum imo
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Pattonesque posted:Trent is a nerd on the spectrum imo That's 100% my read on him. Trant's view on politics seems to mostly be that it's interesting, in the same way that a weird bug or a lost computer prototype is interesting.
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Sit on my Jace posted:That's 100% my read on him. Trant's view on politics seems to mostly be that it's interesting, in the same way that a weird bug or a lost computer prototype is interesting. yeah exactly. like when most people say "I'm apolitical" that's just code for like Republican, but I think Trant actually is
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Pattonesque posted:yeah exactly. like when most people say "I'm apolitical" that's just code for like Republican, but I think Trant actually is He doesn't find Men of Wö interesting though
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Sit on my Jace posted:That's 100% my read on him. Trant's view on politics seems to mostly be that it's interesting, in the same way that a weird bug or a lost computer prototype is interesting. Trant is too busy fighting crime as Elysium Daredevil to have opinions on politics.
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Rogue AI Goddess posted:It's kind of funny that Trent doesn't get even a fraction of the hate leveled at the Sunday Friend. He's an ally of the player and isn't as obnoxious about his moralism as Sunday Friend. Although, it is interesting to note that he has similar sympathies to Kim, in that both are moralists who like certain aesthetics of the revolution, though Trant being more of an intellectual means he's drawn to their writing rather than their look.
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I feel like Trant's opinion was that the Revolution was potentially a good thing and he would have been happy to live in a world where it succeeded. But it didn't, so, oh well. I'm not sure he ever says Moralism is good, though I might have missed that dialog. He's just not too concerned about it and way more interested in all the fascinating details.
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Aoi posted:Trant is too busy fighting crime as Elysium Daredevil to have opinions on politics. He does practice that martial art...
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while you were saying one of these fascist or communist things, I studied the stick
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Although maybe the joke is that academic types with an intellectual passion for radical theory functionally are moderates in every way.
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FPyat posted:Although maybe the joke is that academic types with an intellectual passion for radical theory functionally are moderates in every way. Not really. The zine writers, and to a lesser extend Roy, are academic types with intellectual passion for radical theory. When the time comes to say one of the fascist or communist things, they will say the communist thing. Trent is functionally moderate because he is privileged enough to be utterly disconnected from normal society. If he actually ever could be forced to say the fascist or communist thing or gently caress off, he wouldn't be the same person anymore. This is the main trait he shares with TSF. VictualSquid fucked around with this message at 00:39 on Dec 24, 2022 |
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I think the difference is whether the scholar has tenure, or whatever comfortable business sector jobs Trant probably gets consulted for.
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EorayMel posted:Which is, according to the Moralists you contact, 3,000 years lol that's a worse answer than "Never".
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Sit on my Jace posted:That's 100% my read on him. Trant's view on politics seems to mostly be that it's interesting, in the same way that a weird bug or a lost computer prototype is interesting. https://harpers.org/archive/1941/08/who-goes-nazi/ quote:Mr. G is a very intellectual young man who was an infant prodigy. He has been concerned with general ideas since the age of ten and has one of those minds that can scintillatingly rationalize everything. I have known him for ten years and in that time have heard him enthusiastically explain Marx, social credit, technocracy, Keynesian economics, Chestertonian distributism, and everything else one can imagine. Mr. G will never be a Nazi, because he will never be anything. His brain operates quite apart from the rest of his apparatus. He will certainly be able, however, fully to explain and apologize for Nazism if it ever comes along. But Mr. G is always a “deviationist.” When he played with communism he was a Trotskyist; when he talked of Keynes it was to suggest improvement; Chesterton’s economic ideas were all right but he was too bound to Catholic philosophy. So we may be sure that Mr. G would be a Nazi with purse-lipped qualifications. He would certainly be purged.
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prevailed on my sister to play through. she's probably only going to play through it once so I'm telling her alternate scenarios as she gets past them. she's on day 2 and just discovered the key to the locked blue door in the whirling-in-rags. high electrochemistry has a great sequence when you look through the peephole where it winds itself up about where bottles are being placed, culminating in something like "also, did you know that you can put speed up your rear end in a top hat?" I've seen a screenshot of this but am having trouble finding it. does anyone have it, or failing that, the script?
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World War Mammories posted:prevailed on my sister to play through. she's probably only going to play through it once so I'm telling her alternate scenarios as she gets past them. she's on day 2 and just discovered the key to the locked blue door in the whirling-in-rags. high electrochemistry has a great sequence when you look through the peephole where it winds itself up about where bottles are being placed, culminating in something like "also, did you know that you can put speed up your rear end in a top hat?" I've seen a screenshot of this but am having trouble finding it. does anyone have it, or failing that, the script? You're in luck - just got past that part in my playthrough. 
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A Dapper Walrus posted:You're in luck - just got past that part in my playthrough. bless you
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I've been thinking what if Harry was always commie and just didnt have the words. that the game itself shows how words are twisted and can end up fascist if ur not careful. Harry is too cute to be a raving fascist.
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KORNOLOGY posted:I've been thinking what if Harry was always commie and just didnt have the words. that the game itself shows how words are twisted and can end up fascist if ur not careful. Harry is too cute to be a raving fascist. I'm trying to think of a way to roleplay Harry as a monarchist for that fascist vision quest and now I'm wondering if I can square that with being a commie that's too dumb to understand he's a commie.
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Just finished a big Physique focused run and I appreciate how entertaining a very low Int Harry can be.
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