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Nenonen posted:Couldn't have happened to a better man. S dnem rozhdeniya! Not to be a doubting Томас, but I’d like to see the wound. Mr Dressup here would love nothing more than to be able to show he “had his hurts before”
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Somaen posted:https://mobile.twitter.com/themattdimitri/status/1605967960845287424 I decided to watch the entire interview for some reason and he really doesn't say that, I don't want to carry any water for the guy but that's just a headline spun from nothing. What he actually said: 1. Doesn't know how the war will end - raises some Clancy Chat possibilities 2. Putin had made it clear Ukraine is the red line, and he will attempt to either make it neutral or wreck it 3. "Rationalizing" the frontlines and appointing Surovikin is a good move (this is where the headline comes from) There are some hot takes about Ds/Rs being the same on foreign policy because Trump wasn't able to dismantle NATO by himself that really feels revisionist retelling of what happened that were way more gross to me personally. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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ummel posted:Would've been perfect if the flag unfurled the correct way. All I can make out it is "to the house of representatives of the United States" but maybe that's all it really says in English. https://twitter.com/GettyImagesNews/status/1606035588288749577 At least they framed it the correct way. 
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ummel posted:https://twitter.com/GettyImagesNews/status/1606035588288749577 Kind of ironic considering how huffy people would get if you wrote on an ´¯`·.·★ American Flag ★·.·´¯`
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https://www.thebulwark.com/podcast-episode/gen-mick-ryan-the-war-in-ukraine-10-months-in/ For those following Mick Ryan, this interview is pretty good. He discusses logistics, autonomous drones, the Ukrainian military, and other things. Most interestingly, he doesn't think M1 Abrams would be an insurmountable logistical burden for Ukraine. He commanded a mechanized brigade in the Australian Army, and said that Australia's strategic logistics weren't really that great but that the Abrams were just fine. They had to do things like ensure they had multi-fuel engines and such, but it was very doable. His thinking is that we should give Ukraine 250 of them and see if it's sustainable. If it is, give them more. If the topic interests you I'd recommend listening; Mick Ryan is a good speaker. Edit: SaTaMaS posted:Kind of ironic considering how huffy people would get if you wrote on an ´¯`·.·★ American Flag ★·.·´¯`  On the topic of cultural differences, I watched most of Zelenskyy's speech to the US Congress. Firstly, it was an excellent and canny speech, and he's a very good speaker. Secondly, I'm curious if the tendency to constantly applaud is a US thing, or are such things common in Eastern European countries as well? Ynglaur fucked around with this message at 15:27 on Dec 23, 2022 |
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Dec 23, 2022 15:25
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Ynglaur posted:Secondly, I'm curious if the tendency to constantly applaud is a US thing, or are such things common in Eastern European countries as well? No, we're not that huge on applauding at every occasion.
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Any idea how long ago the CNC would have been purchased?
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Dec 23, 2022 16:18
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Finding a DMG Mori machine in a metalworks shop is about the least surprising discovery on the planet. Good luck getting them serviced, though.
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Dec 23, 2022 16:24
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I’ll go out on a limb here and say that there is a general understanding that any service contract signed before sanctions took effect can very much and legally, be executed. At least that is what some in the know around me are saying.
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Dec 23, 2022 16:30
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ummel posted:https://twitter.com/GettyImagesNews/status/1606035588288749577 All summer our neighbours had planted some sunflowers and were proudly displaying an upside-down ukrainian flag. It's the thought that counts? Anne Frank Funk posted:I’ll go out on a limb here and say that there is a general understanding that any service contract signed before sanctions took effect can very much and legally, be executed. At least that is what some in the know around me are saying. The EU sanctions explicitly grandfathered in contracts from before they took effect. See: french tank and bomb optics.
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Dec 23, 2022 16:39
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Anne Frank Funk posted:I’ll go out on a limb here and say that there is a general understanding that any service contract signed before sanctions took effect can very much and legally, be executed. At least that is what some in the know around me are saying. Engaging in genocide should probably be considered breach of contract.
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Bel Shazar posted:Engaging in genocide should probably be considered breach of contract. Arms companies have a different set of morals from right-thinking humans, I suspect.
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Antigravitas posted:Finding a DMG Mori machine in a metalworks shop is about the least surprising discovery on the planet. Seems like something that could be easily targeted for a stuxnet-style attack: Russian CNCs could be knocked offline while anyone else's can get patched and serviced.
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Arms companies have a different set of morals from right-thinking humans, I suspect. Even so, real miss to not have that in their contracts.
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:The EU sanctions explicitly grandfathered in contracts from before they took effect. See: french tank and bomb optics. Those were the 2014 sanctions. I don't think it holds true across the board for 2022 sanctions.
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Dec 23, 2022 16:49
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Anne Frank Funk posted:I’ll go out on a limb here and say that there is a general understanding that any service contract signed before sanctions took effect can very much and legally, be executed. At least that is what some in the know around me are saying. Given the number of multi-year contracts out there, this is probably why people who know better keep saying that sanctions can degrade Russia's military, but only over a long time period and only degrade it, not cripple it entirely.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Ehh, I mean, "making sure Putin does not profit even symbolically from this power grab" is absolutely in America's national interest, for all the reasons outlined above, plus the additional reason that Putin's a wild card actor on the world stage and humiliating him and reducing his hard and soft power is absolutely a net gain for worldwide safety and stability. It's not even as much as it seems to be really too. Since we're "giving" them money and they are turning around and using it to purchase (mostly) surplus stuff from us that was wasting away anyway. Other than the cost to adminster the program and the (potential) opportunity cost in lost sales to other buyers it really doesn't require a big spend.
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Oh man that reminds me that my dad sold some CNC machines to ИЖМАШ back in the day lol. They gave him a bottle of vodka in a novelty AK bullet shaped wooden decorative container and showed him the Снайперская винтовкаs
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In his defense I think the stuff was for building trains
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cinci zoo sniper posted:No, we're not that huge on applauding at every occasion. Except for when the plane lands
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Anne Frank Funk posted:I’ll go out on a limb here and say that there is a general understanding that any service contract signed before sanctions took effect can very much and legally, be executed. At least that is what some in the know around me are saying. DMG MORI is one of the companies that immediately stopped any and all deliveries to and production in Russia on February 24. DTurtle fucked around with this message at 21:18 on Dec 23, 2022 |
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:The EU sanctions explicitly grandfathered in contracts from before they took effect. See: french tank and bomb optics. That was the 2014 sanctions.
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aphid_licker posted:Oh man that reminds me that my dad sold some CNC machines to ИЖМАШ back in the day lol. They gave him a bottle of vodka in a novelty AK bullet shaped wooden decorative container and showed him the Снайперская винтовкаs I’m surprised I never bought one of these bottles. Luckily for me I’ve been on a responsibility streak   E- I’m sorry I thought this was the other thread Snowy fucked around with this message at 21:53 on Dec 23, 2022 |
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SaTaMaS posted:Kind of ironic considering how huffy people would get if you wrote on an ´¯`·.·★ American Flag ★·.·´¯` Not sure why you think this https://www.stripes.com/theaters/asia_pacific/us-flag-signed-by-soldiers-and-hidden-in-iraq-for-years-inspires-message-from-trump-1.610536 https://americanhistory.si.edu/collections/search/object/nmah_1195053
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:All summer our neighbours had planted some sunflowers and were proudly displaying an upside-down ukrainian flag. It's the thought that counts? Woof. C'mon y'all, it's grain fields and clear sky.
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ummel posted:Woof. C'mon y'all, it's grain fields and clear sky. in the US, an upside down flag is supposed to be used to symbolize you are in distress. I could see the logic in flying the Ukrainian flag upside down to indicate they need support.
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This is awkward for Poles in Indonesia and vice versa.
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Doccers posted:in the US, an upside down flag is supposed to be used to symbolize you are in distress. That's specifically the naval ensign, on a boat.
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Scratch Monkey posted:Mr Dressup here would love nothing more than to be able to show he “had his hurts before” You apologize to Mr. Dressup, right now.  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr._Dressup
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Doccers posted:in the US, an upside down flag is supposed to be used to symbolize you are in distress. I could see the logic in flying the Ukrainian flag upside down to indicate they need support. Was there ever a situation when it was used that way? It reminds me more of Spec Ops: the line where it meant "we don't give a gently caress anymore"
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Sekenr posted:Was there ever a situation when it was used that way? It reminds me more of Spec Ops: the line where it meant "we don't give a gently caress anymore" At this point it feels to me like it’s just something people on Reddit repeat to sound “smart,” tbh.
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https://www.wsj.com/articles/putin-russia-ukraine-war-advisers-11671815184 https://archive.ph/I94xy long wsj piece about basically Putin's personal involvement in decisionmaking wrt the war and general state of mind
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Sekenr posted:Was there ever a situation when it was used that way? It reminds me more of Spec Ops: the line where it meant "we don't give a gently caress anymore" On boats back when flags, semaphore and such were the only means of communication.
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https://www.fpri.org/article/2022/12/how-the-battle-for-the-donbas-shaped-ukraines-success/ New article by Rob Lee and Michael Kofman analyzing the causes of recent Ukrainian successes and prospects for the future. Probably not much new info for most of you, but a good summary.
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Boris Galerkin posted:At this point it feels to me like it’s just something people on Reddit repeat to sound “smart,” tbh. No, many nations have an upside down flag listed as a symbol of distress in their flag codes, it comes up when it’s accidentally displayed that way in the US, which does happen from time to time. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-philippines-flag-idUSTRE68P2EO20100926The Philippines. https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/flag-flap/article12901837/ Canada.
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Also a non-trivial number of countries have naval ensigns that are vertically symmetrical (Russia does, Ukraine doesn't).
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Boris Galerkin posted:At this point it feels to me like it’s just something people on Reddit repeat to sound “smart,” tbh. It's an actual thing. From 4 US Code Sec 8: "(a) The flag should never be displayed with the union down, except as a signal of dire distress in instances of extreme danger to life or property."
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As Kenlon states, it's a thing, with the caveat that the whole section is nonbinding "should" language (like a lot of the rest of that chapter iirc).
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I'm aware that it's "a thing" written in some obscure codes but I'm questioning if it's actually A Thing that people do. Like how it's also "a thing" written in some obscure codes that e.g. the US flag shouldn't be used as a thong bikini but yet those exist. I feel like people spouting off the "upside down = duress" thing are just smug assholes repeating some obscure fact they heard to sound smart.
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