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Papa Was A Video Toaster posted:I resent Shelly for making Destroy Evil maindeckable. I love my stupid little enchantment decks. G/W turbo-exile has a pretty good matchup versus Mono-B, so you can lodge your complaints directly.
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Somberbrero posted:I think you should be maindecking Keening Stone instead. It fits in your deck and it's a very real threat. Not super convinced about the keening stone tbh. I've always had plenty to do with my mana so far, stuff that built the board, I don't think I really need the clunky, slow, expensive wincon when I can make 4 3/3s or fly over everything or recommission a 5/5. Thanks for the kind words and effort, I'll try my best for the last game! space uncle posted:I started drafting blue white soldiers waiting for a payoff to show up.
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I think first Mutt is better than first Refractor in almost any deck. I don't think Refractor is an auto-include unless you have a healthy number of Stalwarts and/or Couriers; an opening hand with Refractor as your first play is a liability in this format
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Dec 24, 2022 13:51
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Currently in plat 4 limited and get paired against mythic ranked #110 and #900 in back to back games, where I proceed to draw nothing but lands for the next 5 turns in each game. Went 1-3 in my draft. Thanks Wizards.
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Whooping Crabs posted:Currently in plat 4 limited and get paired against mythic ranked #110 and #900 in back to back games, where I proceed to draw nothing but lands for the next 5 turns in each game. Went 1-3 in my draft. Thanks Wizards. If you drew nothing but land were you going to beat someone else at Plat 4?
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Sheoldred is a good card but if anything needs to be banned, it is and always has been Invoke Despair
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Dunno about you guys but man cube is my favorite playmode on Arena.
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Adun posted:Dunno about you guys but man cube is my favorite playmode on Arena. I’m an explorer shill but I do love Cube. Vintage Cube is back on MODO, definitely worth checking out if you like limited. My buddy and I took a super fair mono-w deck to 3-0 just now on the back of P.Wave clearing the way for Monastery Mentor triggers. fadam fucked around with this message at 20:24 on Dec 24, 2022 |
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Dec 24, 2022 20:21
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I like Invoke Despair, I friggin hate my opponents and the dumb crap they try to put in my way. We wouldn't have to play Invoke Despair if people just conceded when we dropped Sleeper Agent or whatever turn one.
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Covert Go Blue is a little over halfway through a 100 hour charity stream. If you are looking for fun Historic Brawl content he's been playing Historic Brawl for like 2 straight days with a plethora of commanders. https://twitch.tv/covertgoblue Edit: Arjuna (the other host of Arena Craft podcast) showed up randomly in chat. CGB was getting ready to do tier rankings of "most annoying decks in Arena history". CGB asked Arjuna if he wanted to join him, and then out of nowhere we got a 3 hour Arena Craft Podcast. Stream has been awesome!! SalTheBard fucked around with this message at 01:25 on Dec 25, 2022 |
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Dec 24, 2022 20:49
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Up to 3 Argoths now... looking good
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Merry christmas everyone
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did my first cube draft and i have a really fun orz sac deck that's putting in work. however i ran into an error where it seemed like the triggers on celebrant and Elas il-Kor were firing the opposite of how they should have been? you can see in the link on turn 13 at the very end, they both fire off in response to my opponent saccing a creature to Braids but not in response to any of my creatures dying. am i missing something dumb? https://www.17lands.com/user/game_replay/70af6b2b34be49bdb07427195f6c1265/35508012/1671957861/341 edit: also if you have deckbuilding advice i'm pretty unfamiliar with this format and could use insight. https://www.17lands.com/deck/e32c5a13975a47038130717d8c544a27/1 Somberbrero fucked around with this message at 10:35 on Dec 25, 2022 |
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Adun posted:Dunno about you guys but man cube is my favorite playmode on Arena. Same, I haven’t bothered with any other formats since this cube came out.
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For Christmas, arena gave me an opponent running living breakthrough, which I'm glad isn't a meme, because Jesus tapfucking Christ, there is nothing more infuriating than having a hand full of gas and being literally unable to ever cast anything
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Somberbrero posted:did my first cube draft and i have a really fun orz sac deck that's putting in work. however i ran into an error where it seemed like the triggers on celebrant and Elas il-Kor were firing the opposite of how they should have been? you can see in the link on turn 13 at the very end, they both fire off in response to my opponent saccing a creature to Braids but not in response to any of my creatures dying. am i missing something dumb? https://www.17lands.com/user/game_replay/70af6b2b34be49bdb07427195f6c1265/35508012/1671957861/341 Opponent has flipped kumano saga in play so death triggers don't happen for your stuff all the time.
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Eikre posted:G/W turbo-exile has a pretty good matchup versus Mono-B, so you can lodge your complaints directly. What's a decklist? I'm sick of seeing the same mono-B deck over and over again and I just want something that hates on it even if it loses to literally everything else.
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I was running monob early on before switching to a budget red deck wins, and I just conceded against people doing that selesnya enchantment poo poo. It's not unwinnable but it's not usually worth the time. There's also some red/black deck that seems to stomp my MonoB once they get their value stuff out.
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Managed to beat UW control using all my Touch the Spirit Realms to weave through their removal and sweepers, even caught their Hullbreaker with it which owned lol Now if I could only put up a fight against UW soldiers... I do wonder if I can even mainboard any new tech without weakening other aspects of the deck, or if I just need to accept that in BO1 I won't be able to account for everything
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waloo posted:Opponent has flipped kumano saga in play so death triggers don't happen for your stuff all the time. Whoops. Thanks!
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Barry Shitpeas posted:I think first Mutt is better than first Refractor in almost any deck. I don't think Refractor is an auto-include unless you have a healthy number of Stalwarts and/or Couriers; an opening hand with Refractor as your first play is a liability in this format I only add refractors if I am trying to splash something in....like if I am in a white blue soldiers deck but I open a hero of the dunes pack two or get passed one I will totally grab a couple refractors because there is so little fixing in this draft format. I am loving arena cube though...this cube is alright though. Wish the blink deck had more going for it.
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Returning player here. I last played more around Lorwyn/Alara/Zendikar on MTGo and mostly casual multiplayer formats. I tried to make a budget friendly deck on Arena and MonoB seemed pretty rare/mythic efficient to build.  Spent all my 4 mythics. Still have 4 rares and plenty of unc/com wildcards left. Any obvious misses?
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Go For the Throat is better than Hero's Downfall most of the time. Duress is more of a bo3 card and is a dead draw often in bo1, but sometimes it can clinch a match on turn 1 so do whatever with regards to that. Cut Down is 1 mana removal that kills most 1 and 2 drops - and some 3 drops - at instant speed and is an excellent removal spell in general. Both of those are uncommons. A new set is hitting relatively soon so hold onto your rare and mythic wildcards for now. Make sure you cash in literally every sets 3 pack redemption code to give you a windfall of wild cards - they're all "Play [3 letter set code]" if I recall. edit: Reckoner Bankbuster is an artifact that's good in almost every deck and will be standard legal for the next eight months. Up to you if you want to get some.
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Dang, Boros Heroic really pops off doesn't it? I haven't gotten too far in the Metagame Challenge but I'm sure it's disheartening when spell after spell gets dropped on a Virtuoso and then it gets Protection to swing for All Your Life
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I still prefer Infernal Grasp over Go for the Throat. Paying 2 life to be able to kill any creature is way more preferable than having a card that is completely worthless against all the artifact creatures that are very much "if you don't remove this you're in big trouble."
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Horace Kinch posted:I still prefer Infernal Grasp over Go for the Throat. Paying 2 life to be able to kill any creature is way more preferable than having a card that is completely worthless against all the artifact creatures that are very much "if you don't remove this you're in big trouble." imo it's honestly better to run both and maybe run fewer Cut Down. Cut Down whiffs on so many important creatures then again, you're mono black. what're you here to do but kill dudes and invoke despair? run Cut Down, Grasp, and Throat. don't let em breathe
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Eej posted:Dang, Boros Heroic really pops off doesn't it? I haven't gotten too far in the Metagame Challenge but I'm sure it's disheartening when spell after spell gets dropped on a Virtuoso and then it gets Protection to swing for All Your Life My experience with it in Pioneer was that it has pretty good to even match ups against the field but absolutely gets shellacked by RB, so playing it anywhere with stakes is a bit risky. According to the Meta data it actually does okay against Mono G, so it’s a deck to keep an eye on for Explorer
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Fable of the Mirror Breaker + Bloodtithe Harvester is such a degenerate combo. I finally started playing a Mardu deck after the meta seems to have teched hard against my UW soldiers and it’s disgusting. 1 mana -8/-8 for 0 cards once per turn. Because you’ve got a big stack of blood tokens by the time the combos rolling anyway.
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merry christmas arena goons, I just found these zendikar rising prerelease and deck code cards, have at'em. if you use any please post that you did! All gone, curse the people who took the two codes on top and didn't say anything! Captain Invictus fucked around with this message at 08:25 on Dec 26, 2022 |
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Captain Invictus posted:merry christmas arena goons, I just found these zendikar rising prerelease and deck code cards, have at'em. if you use any please post that you did! They're not expired yet, despite what the card claims. Took bottom left, thanks.
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Captain Invictus posted:merry christmas arena goons, I just found these zendikar rising prerelease and deck code cards, have at'em. if you use any please post that you did! Grabbed bottom right, thanks!
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Captain Invictus posted:merry christmas arena goons, I just found these zendikar rising prerelease and deck code cards, have at'em. if you use any please post that you did! Just tried top two and they’re all gone.
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Haha lmao love to draw or mill 19 cards in total in the first 6 turns of a limited game and have FOURTEEN of them be lands. (Deck's great though I've won 5 games off Precursor Golem including a hilarious game where OP wiped everything except my Bitter Reunion (with Powerstone Fractures) when I had 6 mana and the last card in my hand was Golem. And they had 7 life) E: 7/2 https://www.17lands.com/deck/31a8b59b80a04a81ac2fb3a2a3584166 Precursor Golem won 6/7 games lol. E again: I was curious when the next set is coming out and am I right in understanding the set logos? Are they really, actually putting Phyrexian Obliterator into standard? Into this standard? A hearty lol, lmao. thespaceinvader fucked around with this message at 11:55 on Dec 26, 2022 |
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thespaceinvader posted:Haha lmao love to draw or mill 19 cards in total in the first 6 turns of a limited game and have FOURTEEN of them be lands. Im looking forward to seeing LVDs set review for it. I trust his takes. I am more of a limited player but I kinda want to invest some wildcards into standard when the new set comes out.
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Limited wise Obliterator is just any other bomb rare, it's gonna win games when it gets dropped against you but unless the fixing is amazing it'll be hard as hell to cast on curse. Constructed wise... I'm not even sure if it goes into monoblack, or if it's better the SHeoldred when it does, but it's an absolute house at blocking any agro strat that isn't either unblockable or flying. But Sheoldred does that already, so maybe it doesn't matter? Or maybe you jam 4 of them into whatever slot in decks that already have Shelly, and you have twice as much chance to drop a 4 drop that makes aggro decks cry. Either way the brief period where monored stood a chance of maybe being good again (because it at least has one available answer to SHelly) is probably done.
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The thing about Obliterator is that it's only good if mono B is good, but if mono B is good there's usually lots of ways to deal with it for cheap. OTOH if there is a good red or green deck Obliterator is a loving enormous problem for it.
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space uncle posted:Fable of the Mirror Breaker + Bloodtithe Harvester is such a degenerate combo. I finally started playing a Mardu deck after the meta seems to have teched hard against my UW soldiers and it’s disgusting. I mean it's a very easy combo to disrupt and you see it coming so I definitely wouldn't call it a degenerate combo
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Obliterator is not going to cut it in constructed. Sheoldred does everything you want Obliterator to do but better. Mono-red aggro doesn't care about answering Obliterator because you can just attack around it - it doesn't gain your opponent any life so you can just focus on getting them in range to burn out. Mono-green or big red I guess would hate it. But they don't seem like they'd be particularly good in this format regardless.
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Why is Durss considered not great in BO1? There's another card I can't find the name of rn, but it makes opponent discard 2 cards and I think that's my favourite card to play as MonoB aggro. Yeah, they get to choose it but usually feels like if I throw that thing down early and get em to discard half their hand or more I only have to worry about top deck threats and answers which is usually where I wanna be when smashing face.
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