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uXs
May 3, 2005

Mark it zero!

JackDarko posted:

That’s helpful; thanks for the details. Yeah, sometimes retreating to lose one cube is the play.

I retreat a bit more than 25% of my games.

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Tom Smykowski
Jan 27, 2005

What the hell is wrong with you people?
I've played the same guy a few times throughout the day and beat him each time. Just saw him again and he retreated immediately :dukedog:

the_steve
Nov 9, 2005

We're always hiring!

Oh poo poo, I hit rank 70 without even realizing it. Was trying to finish the "Win a location with 20+" power mission and was having a hell of a time, opponents kept retreating before I could get a space built up, or, it just wouldn't have worked out to where I could win the match if I went hard for the 20, so I wouldn't.

I think I have every winter variant except Rogue now, hopefully I land her before the event ends.

Tom Smykowski
Jan 27, 2005

What the hell is wrong with you people?
How the poo poo are you guys getting all these winter variants??

the_steve
Nov 9, 2005

We're always hiring!

Tom Smykowski posted:

How the poo poo are you guys getting all these winter variants??

Leveling up the collector level and hoping RNGesus smiles on us when we land a cache.

No Wave
Sep 18, 2005

HA! HA! NICE! WHAT A TOOL!

Tom Smykowski posted:

How the poo poo are you guys getting all these winter variants??
a.) the people who highroll them post excessively about it because internet posters always take every opportunity to brag about their luck (unbreakable gacha rule)
b.) There are spenders and they tend to stay tight-lipped about it.

Nikumatic
Feb 13, 2012

a fantastic machine made of meat

No Wave posted:

a.) the people who highroll them post excessively about it because internet posters always take every opportunity to brag about their luck (unbreakable gacha rule)

by the way i got the maw one last night

Tom Smykowski
Jan 27, 2005

What the hell is wrong with you people?
RNGesus keeps giving me pixel variants of cards I don't ever use.

I just got another doom variant when I already have and use the best one: baby doom

Bad Video Games
Sep 17, 2017


JackDarko posted:

Great question! Bishop imo really shines when you can combo cheap cards or play Mysterio. With your deck you want to win one lane consistently up through round 4 and then surprise win another. Angela should reliably become a 6 for 2 if played this way.

I climbed really well in your shoes with this deck and I’m nearly Diamond with a variant of it.

Edit: I forgot to mention! Your big combo is Moon Girl on 4, Dino on 5 and Dino on 6. If you Moon girl on 4 and Dino is one of your two leftmost cards (MG copies from left to right) I’d snap. Unless of course you’re way behind. Win or lose I wouldn’t feel bad about losing that bet. It’s a hard combo to beat.

Thanks again for the help! I just unlocked Morbius which will let me try to get a discard deck working a little better.

Also I just put this deck together. It's not amazing, but it gets the job done.

# (1) Ant Man
# (1) Hawkeye
# (1) Quicksilver
# (2) Forge
# (2) Okoye
# (2) Domino
# (3) Ironheart
# (3) Mister Fantastic
# (3) Captain America
# (5) Iron Man
# (5) Blue Marvel
# (5) Klaw

Domino and Quicksilver are just there so I don't have 2 dead turns, but I'm thinking of swapping them out.

Psyker
Jun 21, 2004

[Binge and] Purge the xenos!

RevKrule posted:

I feel this in my bones. I'm down to Agatha, Crossbones, Ghost Rider, Green Goblin, Magik, Omega Red and Thor and I feel like some of these are archetype defining (Ghost Rider) and others are standard utilities in so many decks (Magik, Thor, Goblin).

I've pinned Knull because honestly my decks are relatively solid so sure why not go for the big boy.

Out of my remainder it’s really just Brood I want - the rest are fine. Doom isn’t someone I’d play in my decks at the moment either.

But brood? Oof.

Snuffman
May 21, 2004

What's the best way to go about making a Hela discard deck without constantly losing Hela to discard effects?

I don't have Ghost Rider yet.

quiggy
Aug 7, 2010

[in Russian] Oof.


Snuffman posted:

What's the best way to go about making a Hela discard deck without constantly losing Hela to discard effects?

I don't have Ghost Rider yet.

Accept that it's going to happen sometimes and have other wincons. Also figure out when it's safe to play which discard cards and be willing to take the gamble.

Bad Video Games
Sep 17, 2017


quiggy posted:

Accept that it's going to happen sometimes and have other wincons. Also figure out when it's safe to play which discard cards and be willing to take the gamble.

The hardest thing about discard seems to be the RNG. I either end up with no cards in my hand, which would be great for Strong Guy except I always end up discarding Strong Guy. Also I never seem to discard Apocalypse.

priznat
Jul 7, 2009

Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.
What happens when you send a goblin over to a wong? I was contemplating that just now when the opponent with the wong retreated. Does it just get bounced back to you?

Zodack
Aug 3, 2014
I don't know for sure, but my guess is most cards queue up their On Reveal triggers and then execute them (see: Zola on Wong), so I would expect Green Goblin to move over to the Wong side and stay there since it's done executing its On Reveal. That being said this game does some weird stuff sometimes so who knows

quiggy
Aug 7, 2010

[in Russian] Oof.


Walla posted:

The hardest thing about discard seems to be the RNG. I either end up with no cards in my hand, which would be great for Strong Guy except I always end up discarding Strong Guy. Also I never seem to discard Apocalypse.

My goal is generally to get 2-3 copies of Swarm down along with Morbius and Dracula, and then try to leave my hand with Apocalypse and/or Infinaut as my only cards left for Dracula to eat. If I get Hela down that's great, but there's just no way to predict how a Discard deck is gonna play in any given game.

e: oh also since I don't have Hell Cow I run Moon Knight and Gambit as two of my discards and you better believe I always play them on anything that causes them to fire multiple times

Push El Burrito
May 9, 2006

Soiled Meat
Ego you suck why the hell did you play Wolfsbane on a spot with no other cards?

uXs
May 3, 2005

Mark it zero!

priznat posted:

What happens when you send a goblin over to a wong? I was contemplating that just now when the opponent with the wong retreated. Does it just get bounced back to you?

No, it stays there.

And I'm pretty sure that sending a Goblin over with Wong on your own side would have it jump back, just like Kamar-Taj does. I could be wrong though, haven't tested it.

Studio
Jan 15, 2008



Push El Burrito posted:

Ego you suck why the hell did you play Wolfsbane on a spot with no other cards?

Ego is a magic 8 ball where every question you ask gets "gently caress You" as a response.

Skippy McPants
Mar 19, 2009

Oh thank god, the Pool 5 card I was waiting for appeared in the shop. Now I can pin it and stop looking at the store three times a day for the next few weeks.

Bad Video Games
Sep 17, 2017


quiggy posted:

My goal is generally to get 2-3 copies of Swarm down along with Morbius and Dracula, and then try to leave my hand with Apocalypse and/or Infinaut as my only cards left for Dracula to eat. If I get Hela down that's great, but there's just no way to predict how a Discard deck is gonna play in any given game.

e: oh also since I don't have Hell Cow I run Moon Knight and Gambit as two of my discards and you better believe I always play them on anything that causes them to fire multiple times

I don't have Moon Knight or Gambit. Probably why a discard deck doesn't work for me at the moment is because I only have 3 cards that actually discard anything.

On the subject of weird interactions, the location that doubles your cards power doesn't double the power of Hulkbuster. It does double the power of whatever card it merges with though.

Studio
Jan 15, 2008



I think Professor X might be a cube trap. I win a decent amount of games with him, but it's almost always causes a concede since turn 5 is when the Big Plays get made.

Skippy McPants
Mar 19, 2009

Walla posted:

On the subject of weird interactions, the location that doubles your cards power doesn't double the power of Hulkbuster. It does double the power of whatever card it merges with though.

Yeah, the Hulk Buster sequence is weird. When you play Hulk Buster its On Reveal removes it, then adds its power to and replays the other card.

They really need to do an editing pass on the various keywords to make it clear what interactions are happening when you "play" a card.

Studio posted:

I think Professor X might be a cube trap. I win a decent amount of games with him, but it's almost always causes a concede since turn 5 is when the Big Plays get made.

If you have any Turn 5 play that swings the game, you gotta snap before it comes down. Leech is probably the best example. If you want more than one Cube out of that guy, you gotta get your bet in early, cause it's unlikely the other guy is sticking around.

Skippy McPants fucked around with this message at 02:50 on Dec 29, 2022

Opopanax
Aug 8, 2007

I HEX YE!!!


Yondu-Venom-Zola on Bar Sinister. I wasn't really sure how it would work, exactly, but uhhhh it did

Fate Accomplice
Nov 30, 2006




JackDarko posted:

A Zoo deck is also very consistent especially if you’re not facing Killmonger. It’s not a deck that will surprise people, so you may not climb quickly.

adding ultron to kazoo eliminated my fear of killmonger

Charity Porno
Aug 2, 2021

by Hand Knit

Studio posted:

I think Professor X might be a cube trap. I win a decent amount of games with him, but it's almost always causes a concede since turn 5 is when the Big Plays get made.

hahaha I had a game end turn 4 today because I flipped a Galactus after a Wave and burned the rest of the board including my Nova, and he flipped Professor X

Tom Smykowski
Jan 27, 2005

What the hell is wrong with you people?

Opopanax posted:

Yondu-Venom-Zola on Bar Sinister. I wasn't really sure how it would work, exactly, but uhhhh it did



This is awesome

the_steve
Nov 9, 2005

We're always hiring!

priznat posted:

What happens when you send a goblin over to a wong? I was contemplating that just now when the opponent with the wong retreated. Does it just get bounced back to you?

I dunno about that, but I learned that the "first card you play here is destroyed" effect doesn't trigger on the opponent's green goblin if I already triggered it on my side.

That is to say, turn 1, I played Hood and triggered the location effect.
Couple turns later, they played GG as their first card on the space, he jumps over to me, but didn't die even though he was the first card my opponent played on the spot.

priznat
Jul 7, 2009

Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.
I just tried it sending a hobgolbin over to an active wong, and yup it just sat on that side.

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

the_steve posted:

I dunno about that, but I learned that the "first card you play here is destroyed" effect doesn't trigger on the opponent's green goblin if I already triggered it on my side.

It’s not “first card you play here each turn”, huh. It did seem a bit strong as I mistakenly interpreted it.

First of May
May 1, 2017
🎵 Bring your favorite lady, or at least your favorite lay! 🎵


I think cards that switch side activate like this:

Reveal: switch sides (other player takes ownership of this card)
Reveal completes and card is on the other side of the table.
"Played" resolves, and the owner is the other player at that time

If you play a Goblin or Hobgoblin as your first "play" it probably doesn't blow up before it switches sides.

Studio
Jan 15, 2008



Charity Porno posted:

hahaha I had a game end turn 4 today because I flipped a Galactus after a Wave and burned the rest of the board including my Nova, and he flipped Professor X

I'd like to give a special shoutout to BIGGIE_LITTLES for committing to a turn 6 where they could not play, because they thought I couldn't win left (from 5 with a Nova/Debrii), and untie right lane.

I cannot, but DESTROYER can :krad:

priznat
Jul 7, 2009

Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.
I have been playing the ongoing destroyer as it seems to be a good solution to a lot of the meta decks. I see a lot of leech/leader even at lvl 40!

flatluigi
Apr 23, 2008

here come the planes
new contender for silliest game i've ever had



(first location was the one that swaps cost and power, so my t3 was storm into zola and my t4 was dino into sunspot)

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



Dropping Wong/BP/Odin onto The Nexus :discourse:

Studio
Jan 15, 2008



FlamingLiberal posted:

Dropping Wong/BP/Odin onto The Nexus :discourse:

Pretend I posted that dude who Shang Chi'd that earlier.

Opopanax
Aug 8, 2007

I HEX YE!!!


Carrying Ebony Maw in my hand is making me feel better about encountering Leech

Maneck
Sep 11, 2011
I've had more success using Ebony Maw with Viper to surprise lock a lane for an opponent than actually using it for its power.

Opopanax
Aug 8, 2007

I HEX YE!!!


I've mainly been using him as a cheap power up for Knull but I've had a few lucky Leech shots today. He's also good for making someone think I've locked down a lane and then I drop Killmonger

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Push El Burrito
May 9, 2006

Soiled Meat

Opopanax posted:

Carrying Ebony Maw in my hand is making me feel better about encountering Leech

I just ran into my first Ebony Maw and I happened to play an Elektra on that spot.

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