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FlapYoJacks posted:you know what doesn’t have a messed up timer app? iPhone. stop using andoird you mean "copying Apple again" because only setting a single timer is an iPhone peculiarity
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~Coxy posted:you mean "copying Apple again" because only setting a single timer is an iPhone peculiarity you can set mulitple, you just have to do it with siri
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Dec 18, 2022 17:06
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setting multiple timers is also how they upsell you into getting an apple watch
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Dec 18, 2022 17:07
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Endless Mike posted:you can set mulitple, you just have to do it with siri lol
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Dec 18, 2022 17:11
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the android time app is superior to ios' in just about every way. which is weird, because there is so little to them that one would think you'd quickly converge on something very similar. main feature i'd like ios to add is the contextual "cancel the next one" notification which shows up for daily alarms like 2 hours before they go off. nice little morning convenience. but perhaps that would have to also involve ios not being weird about when notifications get to show.
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Dec 18, 2022 17:34
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remember when ios tried to replace the timer interface with the numpad
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Dec 18, 2022 18:36
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burnt the food because the timer on the Google clock app (which I had to download a new app for because the default one from OnePlus updated and no longer let's you set more than one at a time) didn't have notifications enabled on the alarm only went off if the phone was unlocked when it expired fuckin' Google 
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Dec 26, 2022 14:30
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lol that sucks. “hmm people will definitely want their timer notifications to not go off or go off on a delay. this is a normal thing for a timer to do.“- google
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Dec 26, 2022 14:50
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Powerful Two-Hander posted:didn't have notifications enabled on the alarm only went off if the phone was unlocked when it expired lmao
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Powerful Two-Hander posted:burnt the food because the timer on the Google clock app (which I had to download a new app for because the default one from OnePlus updated and no longer let's you set more than one at a time) didn't have notifications enabled on the alarm only went off if the phone was unlocked when it expired bad workman blames his tools. shameful
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Dec 27, 2022 03:06
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git apologist posted:bad workman blames his tools. shameful but what if the tools dont work?
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:the android time app is superior to ios' in just about every way. of course it is, all clock-adjacent android functionality has received thorough atten- Powerful Two-Hander posted:burnt the food because the timer on the Google clock app (which I had to download a new app for because the default one from OnePlus updated and no longer let's you set more than one at a time) didn't have notifications enabled on the alarm only went off if the phone was unlocked when it expired
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Dec 27, 2022 03:36
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Last Chance posted:but what if the tools dont work? you should be a better workman, make up the deficit
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Dec 27, 2022 03:47
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infernal machines posted:you should be a better workman, make up the deficit 
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Dec 27, 2022 11:48
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Agile Vector posted:of course it is, all clock-adjacent android functionality has received thorough atten- it was very timely. but manufacturers going out of their way to gently caress things up is a separate issue, much larger than timers. the stock app is pretty good when installed stock.
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Dec 27, 2022 11:58
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stock apps will likely be in the position to grant themselves precise timers as well as the ability to interrupt sleep more often and do other stuff specific to the phone's build without having to bug the user. I think there are even some permissions that you can't ever have unless you've got vendor/oem privileges. But anything that is remotely related to power, particularly those that can interrupt sleep or set precise timers, will typically need the user's help to tell Android not to powermanage the app. It's pretty ridiculous, but modern Android gets a lot of battery life by basically sleeping all the time in big chunks.
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Dec 27, 2022 12:56
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https://developer.android.com/training/scheduling/alarms#exact-permission-declare I think it's this. And if your app is too old to know about this stuff, then I think it simply just doesn't work as needed and either you need to install a different app or forward port it (if it's open source) to get it to work.
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Dec 27, 2022 13:03
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really though a good clock app is not rocket science and should be stock and standard. incomprehensible
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it is standard, unless the anroid oem decides to gently caress it up by making their own ios-like one.
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even a broken clock is right twice a day… …except on anroid!!!
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:it was very timely. but manufacturers going out of their way to gently caress things up is a separate issue, much larger than timers. the stock app is pretty good when installed stock. which is a fair point. manufacturers would be better off if all they did was reskin them, instead of forcing an install and permissions dance due to their 'our devs got bored' versions
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Dec 27, 2022 17:20
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yeah, i have plenty of fun android problems but "nonfunctional clock/timer" isn't one of them, sorry about your garbage oneplus phone.
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Dec 27, 2022 18:05
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that said google has redesigned the timer app once a year or maybe more. feels like every time i need a fuckin timer the interface is different.
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Dec 27, 2022 18:06
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it asked me for notification permissions the next time i opened the clock app  Jabor posted:it is standard, unless the anroid oem decides to gently caress it up by making their own ios-like one. idk what it about android manufacturers and feeling the need to gently caress with everything but every single one I've had has done it. also peep the insane number of references in it, this is scrolled down! 
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Powerful Two-Hander posted:idk what it about android manufacturers and feeling the need to gently caress with everything but every single one I've had has done it. android manufacturers have the same problem windows computers makers had years earlier. they sell hardware that runs a generic OS. the customers buy an android phone, the manufacturer doesn’t matter. this leads to a race to the bottom for margins. customization is their attempt to own the customer experience, converting them from android customers to samsung or whatever customers. does it work? sort of. objectively their experience is almost always worse than the stock one. but there are actually people out there who know they have a “galaxy phone” and therefore can’t look at other makers who are weird and different from what they are used to.
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and they are all different, there's no such thing as consistency in the UI, so expect to re-learn all your common workflows every time you change phones. also every time you update the os. also none of the apps work the same or use any kind of consistent visual style, so you'll just have to figure it out for every different app you use too this is the price of freedom
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Dec 30, 2022 23:37
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yeah can't wait for the same race-to-the-bottom crapfest to happen with SteamOS portable consoles lol
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honestly, samsung's biggest sin is insisting that they need to put their own version of every app alongside the stock ones google requires be included on an android phone, so you end up with two browsers, two email apps, two contacts, etc.
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Endless Mike posted:honestly, samsung's biggest sin is insisting that they need to put their own version of every app alongside the stock ones google requires be included on an android phone, so you end up with two browsers, two email apps, two contacts, etc. bixby too, don't forget that thing
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Endless Mike posted:honestly, samsung's biggest sin is insisting that they need to put their own version of every app alongside the stock ones google requires be included on an android phone, so you end up with two browsers, two email apps, two contacts, etc. Yes google really should remove all that junk
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android really is a fantastic example of open source working only for the big corporations. if fragmentation was such that different manufacturers had their own aosp spin and if i felt e.g. sony was more trustworthy and competent i could go with them it'd be great. messy, but great. in reality things are "free" enough that open source people volunteer tons of work for it, that it gets good pr and apparent tweakability, but no fork which is not in reality fully controlled by google has any impact or penetration at all. like you get one person here ot there running lineageos or whatever feeling real smug, but they're overall contributing *more* to the hegemony (as those small forks doing way more aosp work per user than anyone else) while patting themselves on the back for denying google a few cents worth of information.
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infernal machines posted:and they are all different, there's no such thing as consistency in the UI, so expect to re-learn all your common workflows every time you change phones. also every time you update the os. also none of the apps work the same or use any kind of consistent visual style, so you'll just have to figure it out for every different app you use too it's not even consistent between goddamn versions. you used to (on android 12 I think) be able to access the wallet app via the lock screen by (long?) pressing the power button, but that's been removed in 13 and the default is to have unlock, swipe down, select wallet or set the wallet and NFC payments to be running constantly what the gently caress you can change the stupid "Google assistant" icon on lock to open the wallet from lock but that's not obvious
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Powerful Two-Hander posted:or set the wallet and NFC payments to be running constantly what the gently caress I can’t believe that it’s 15 years later and google is still using the same braindead process lifecycle model instead of copying the iphone way of launch-on-demand and idle-exiting applications.
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:android really is a fantastic example of open source working only for the big corporations. if fragmentation was such that different manufacturers had their own aosp spin and if i felt e.g. sony was more trustworthy and competent i could go with them it'd be great. messy, but great. no one is using lineageos without installing google services to actually make it useful as a phone, so google still gets those few cents worth of information lol
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Powerful Two-Hander posted:it's not even consistent between goddamn versions. you used to (on android 12 I think) be able to access the wallet app via the lock screen by (long?) pressing the power button, but that's been removed in 13 and the default is to have unlock, swipe down, select wallet or set the wallet and NFC payments to be running constantly what the gently caress lol. lmao. i seriously did not know how stupid that process is on (only recent?) android, vs. ios "press a button twice and authenticate by either looking at the phone or keeping your fingerprint on the same button" though of course i usually double-press the side button on my watch and hold it to the reader, except for the one store which has finicky nfc readers that require holding the card/device exactly still for 3-4 seconds and its more awkward to do that with my watch vs. phone
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I mean look at this poo poo in the settings: I guess the first group sort of makes sense because it's network related, but why is apps in the section related to security? why is sound in a section with wallpaper? why is none of it alphabetised??? e: why is there an "accounts" item that does not list your Google account and that is instead on an option called "Google"? why is there a section for "parental controls" and then another one under "special features"called "kids space" who looks at this and thinks "yes, this is a sensible UI"? Powerful Two-Hander fucked around with this message at 19:14 on Dec 31, 2022 |
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Dec 31, 2022 19:12
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Powerful Two-Hander posted:why is apps in the section related to security? because the most important app-related settings concern whether they can read all your data and spy on you Powerful Two-Hander posted:why is sound in a section with wallpaper? these are both related to the look and feel of the human interface Powerful Two-Hander posted:why is none of it alphabetised??? why should it be?
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this is almost identical to the ios settings app. except the iOS one comes with an ad for Apple Arcade at the top
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this is the only settings panel i need:
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Smythe posted:this is the only settings panel i need:
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