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Yadoppsi posted:I was rereading the War Nerd Iliad and I came across this line I just had to share. Remember Dolan is not trying to provide a word to word translation of the poetry but replicate the humor and mnemonic tricks with the paragraph structure: His Illiad rules so much. I wish he’d do the Odyssey too.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:hello Mr. eXile sir, could you please get me in touch with the incomparable Solzhenitsyn? 🥺 They could have brought JP over, tossed him in a room with Limonov, told the dope that was Solzhenitsyn, and we'd have the century's best comedy ready to go!
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Dreylad posted:going to write a letter to the Onion to see if they'll put me in contact with Henry Kissinger. just because he wrote horror novels doesn't mean he had supernatural powers. now kissinger, on the other hand.... just double check your hexes for me, please?
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ThatBasqueGuy posted:lmao, good bit I know, right? I can just imagine some Bronze Age farmer or shepherd grinning and elbowing his neighbor around the campfire when the punchline hit.
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Yadoppsi posted:I know, right? I can just imagine some Bronze Age farmer or shepherd grinning and elbowing his neighbor around the campfire when the punchline hit. you just did that
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lollontee posted:you just did that Show me the campfire 
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Sephyr posted:They could have brought JP over, tossed him in a room with Limonov, told the dope that was Solzhenitsyn, and we'd have the century's best comedy ready to go! lol this was my first thought too
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MonsieurChoc posted:His Illiad rules so much. I wish he’d do the Odyssey too. I finished this recently too. The comment he made, I think while talking to Ames on the podcast, about his change to the last lines of the work was kind of touching: Rather than ending with Hector being called "tamer of horses" or whatever, he called him "the best of men" or something iirc, and offered an interesting justification. Elsewhere in the podcast Dolan mentioned he considered "defeat" to be the overarching theme of the show, which seemed a bit maudlin to me at the time, but his comments on Hector made it easier to understand. Ceramic Shot has issued a correction as of 00:39 on Jan 1, 2023 |
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Hector is probably the Illiad character that appeals the most to modern sensitivities. He dislikes the war as a whole, only fights to protect his family and home and holds a great sense of honor and tries to get Achilles to fight on a duel that ends honorably for both (and the rear end in a top hat latter refuses). Plus the idea of the moral superiority being the one who loses the fight is a romantic one
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Dolan said that his purpose was to properly translate "tamer of horses" a little less literally, since it seems like a very odd way to end the story to contemporary readers. It's like telling this grand story of heroes and gods, and ending with "by the way, the guy whose corpse was desecrated was also good at animal husbandry." It doesn't really convey the right feeling. I think he was saying that Homer also must have liked Hector, given that the poem ends with that reference to him. The legend of Alexander the Great taming Bucephalus is another example of how horse-taming was considered a mark of greatness. If Achilles in Vietnam is any indication, as well as Achilles' popular portrayal in movies and games, I'd say modern sensibilities are maybe slightly tilted to both sides' champions while trying to more strongly emphasize what an rear end in a top hat Agamemnon was.
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Japan likes Hektor too.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_G8LmW42lVI
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Breaker of Horses is a cool title.
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:i'm a shut-in for NYE so this is good company don't know why but I imagine he's sitting across from the HET! guy.
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:i'm a shut-in for NYE so this is good company for old heads there’s not much new information, but it’s still nice to hear the three talk about Russia and how much journalism sucks. mark is still bitter about a lot more than he & Yasha having the Koch Brothers Tea Party story spiked for their “tone.” the most novel ground they cover is how much overlap there is between Russians & Americans when it comes to journalistic exposes of their own corruption. eventually people get sick of hearing how bad everything is and want to indulge in a reactionary fantasy.
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I once had to write an entire paper on just that speech, and there are at least 3 monographs on the meaning of “nobility” Sarpedon refers to. What I like about Dolan is that he does really try to get to the ideas at work in Homer, though as someone pointed out, what made “the best of men” to the Homeric military elite is a very distant thing from modern virtue. Hector is the best of them to us, but among his peers a victorious noble is the most praiseworthy.
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https://twitter.com/yashalevine/status/1609758017972744192?s=20 https://twitter.com/yashalevine/status/1609763879248359424?s=20 Yasha seems to be the only one to still have the eXile edge.
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MonsieurChoc posted:Japan likes Hektor too. Where is this from?
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Sephyr posted:Where is this from? https://mangadex.org/chapter/c02f3767-5432-48de-b387-f4e465847e7e
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:https://twitter.com/yashalevine/status/1609758017972744192?s=20 mark ames didnt go far enough when he wrote "gas middle america": http://www.exile.ru/articles/detail.php?ARTICLE_ID=7533&IBLOCK_ID=35
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CIA/NATO Russian stay-behind saboteurs operation guy is pretty interesting. Really liked getting some updates on the Fort Bragg stuff too. Here are the articles: https://jackmurphywrites.com/169/the-cias-sabotage-campaign-inside-russia/ https://www.audacy.com/connectingvets/news/fear-grips-special-ops-amidst-human-trafficking-drug-arrests
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what’s the ally thought to be?
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hadji murad posted:what’s the ally thought to be? Poland, I thought?
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Who was this Natalya Sev(something) person Ames mentioned in #360 that was arrested in russia, got a ton of awards and hailed as a freedom avatar, then went full anti-semite? Audio isn't clear and my research is not turning up reliable results.
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Sephyr posted:Who was this Natalya Sev(something) person Ames mentioned in #360 that was arrested in russia, got a ton of awards and hailed as a freedom avatar, then went full anti-semite? Audio isn't clear and my research is not turning up reliable results. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nadiya_Savchenko
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Sephyr posted:Where is this from? A fgo side-manga where the dumbass main character learns the story of the various heroes he can summon. I also really like the one about Arash.
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ShallNoiseUpon posted:CIA/NATO Russian stay-behind saboteurs operation guy is pretty interesting. Really liked getting some updates on the Fort Bragg stuff too. Love the candid soldier explaining the reason why they are doing drugs and sex trafficking minors is because they are bored. Like they would be doing those things but in a foreign country they are at war with instead
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lol her page was purged of any reference to her interview where she kept complaining about jews
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Russia blew up their pipeline as revenge for the CIA blowing up their rail lines.
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Frosted Flake posted:Poland, I thought? I thought it would be former Warsaw Pact but part of me didn’t think those countries would have enough sway in Washington. Then again Washington really wanted the war.
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hadji murad posted:I thought it would be former Warsaw Pact but part of me didn’t think those countries would have enough sway in Washington. Then again Washington really wanted the war. Russia is the perennial enemy, communism or no communism.
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Cao Ni Ma posted:Love the candid soldier explaining the reason why they are doing drugs and sex trafficking minors is because they are bored. Like they would be doing those things but in a foreign country they are at war with instead In a foreign country they'd be too engaged with official murder to get up to their own shenanigans. And besides, it's bullshit in its own terms. The criminality at Fort Bragg has been going on long before the Afghanistan withdrawal.
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Zedhe Khoja posted:lol her page was purged of any reference to her interview where she kept complaining about jews
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