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AndyElusive posted:Few things in this game are as frustrating as when you're on Ogryn and have two vets in your squad and neither of them are capable of taking out snipers. Or they're capable, but they don't feel like sniper watch is their responsibility or anything. It's evened out by getting to watch them one by one try to crowd control while the Sniper picks them off. Ogryn is often the most frustrating class to play with randos because it feels the most reliant on your team. Great if they're capable but awful if you need to solo carry situations you aren't made for. It feels so incredibly terrible to come across a giant, open room of 40 shooters, realize there's nothing meaningful you can do without getting lit up, spend the next 3 minutes protecting your veterans from behind cover, and in that time the room has somehow only gone from 40 shooters to 35, with 3 of those deaths being from grenades you've lobbed. Meanwhile you know you could wipe them all out in 30 seconds as a vet and could at least do decent work as a psyker/zealot.
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Vargs posted:Ogryn is often the most frustrating class to play with randos because it feels the most reliant on your team. Great if they're capable but awful if you need to solo carry situations you aren't made for. It feels so incredibly terrible to come across a giant, open room of 40 shooters, realize there's nothing meaningful you can do without getting lit up, spend the next 3 minutes protecting your veterans from behind cover, and in that time the room has somehow only gone from 40 shooters to 35, with 3 of those deaths being from grenades you've lobbed. Meanwhile you know you could wipe them all out in 30 seconds as a vet and could at least do decent work as a psyker/zealot. This made me think that an Ogryn career ability that let them set up something defensive, taunt, and actually tank damage like they're clearly meant to be able to would be way more interesting than their current one--which isn't to say I don't like their current one as it's one of the only guaranteed ways to create breathing room, but having a class that could pull aggro of shooters and actually force attention would be such an impossibly useful tool
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Sab Sabbington posted:This made me think that an Ogryn career ability that let them set up something defensive, taunt, and actually tank damage like they're clearly meant to be able to would be way more interesting than their current one--which isn't to say I don't like their current one as it's one of the only guaranteed ways to create breathing room, but having a class that could pull aggro of shooters and actually force attention would be such an impossibly useful tool ogrynbreaker
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Jan 4, 2023 03:37
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I'm pretty sure I've countersniped more snipers with my bolter as Zealot than most Veterans I've played with.
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Jan 4, 2023 04:28
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Posting to say that somehow the MK6 Ripper has overtaken every other Ogryn gun as my pubbie ranged weapon of choice. It's funny; it's just so much snappier to use than even the Rumbler that despite it being inferior against the Stubber for horde clear and DPS, and technically being inferior against the Rumbler for potential damage per shot and ability to kill elites/specials as long as I can do a headshot, it having a generous reserve of ammo and being able to do knockdowns/staggers well at surprising ranges means I've been able to rely on it for pub matches to an astounding degree. It can't even reliably kill dogs, though TBF I think that's mainly because dogs are the only enemy in this game I consider to be straight up broken in terms of feel and bugs. Love to stagger a dog at mid-range with a shot that doesn't even feel like it scattered well, and in the same match fail to even flinch another with a clean up-close meatshot
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Jan 4, 2023 04:40
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I hope whoever had the idea "The ogryn's grenade should be a box of grenades that he throws because he doesn't know you're supposed to pull the pin on grenades before you throw them" got a pay raise
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Jan 4, 2023 04:42
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Got 3 of the 4 classes to 30. Unfortunately I simply don't have the energy to grind for gear for them, or level a Zealot. Here's to hoping updates come quick.
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Jan 4, 2023 05:24
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Mendrian posted:Okay the bug where that revolver blessing that gives you crit for missing chambers applying to melee is clearly unintentional but it rips on Zealot dagger. I'm actually getting use out of that cool down on crit feat. It's not just revolvers, it's on autoguns, too. And they have larger magazines, so the crit bonus is high (in theory, it is Fatshark after all.) I've played a good 40-50 matches with my Zealot and an empty autogun and my crit rate has to be around 75%. Antax axe with Brutal Momentum, which turns it into a good horde clearer, plus its normal versatility... I was thinking about doing a report-back here and got lazy. I am able to clear Damnation with it and I've never felt like I was a detriment to the team. There's some problems that need a little more time to solve or need creative problem solving, which is a mark against it, but it makes up for it in the number of times I have absolutely wrecked poo poo or clutched for the team. I like it and will continue this setup. The dagger/tactical axe combo was just way too many clicks, I was exhausted any time I had to dig deep.
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Jan 4, 2023 05:52
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Chillgamesh posted:I hope whoever had the idea "The ogryn's grenade should be a box of grenades that he throws because he doesn't know you're supposed to pull the pin on grenades before you throw them" got a pay raise It's also great that it's like the single hardest hitting attack in the game.
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Jan 4, 2023 06:03
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Khizan posted:It's also great that it's like the single hardest hitting attack in the game. It is both the best and coolest thing in the game
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Jan 4, 2023 06:16
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Late to the party, but I tried the braced autogun + chastise the wicked combo to melt crushers with my zealot and LMAO. Enjoy it while it lasts, that ability is gonna get nerfed for sure.
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Jan 4, 2023 06:17
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Khizan posted:It's also great that it's like the single hardest hitting attack in the game. Candygram for Mongo! 
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Sab Sabbington posted:This made me think that an Ogryn career ability that let them set up something defensive, taunt, and actually tank damage like they're clearly meant to be able to would be way more interesting than their current one--which isn't to say I don't like their current one as it's one of the only guaranteed ways to create breathing room, but having a class that could pull aggro of shooters and actually force attention would be such an impossibly useful tool this is called "suppression" and the twin-linked heavy stubber is loving incredible at it granted it only works against scabs because dregs are an unfinished faction but, y'know, the idea is there
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Kith posted:this is called "suppression" and the twin-linked heavy stubber is loving incredible at it Nah I think Dreg shooters being resistant to suppression is intended. Scab shooters are easily suppressible but they're also significantly more aggressive when attacking, firing more often and walking while shooting. Dreg shooters mostly just stand still and fire their guns less often.
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Didn't Fatshark confirm that dregs are working as intended with regards to suppression? They're supposed to be fanatics. e: beaten
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It was "confirmed" but I have my doubts as to the intention
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The darktide reddit is the worst place on earth:
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AndyElusive posted:Few things in this game are as frustrating as when you're on Ogryn and have two vets in your squad and neither of them are capable of taking out snipers. Or they're capable, but they don't feel like sniper watch is their responsibility or anything. It's evened out by getting to watch them one by one try to crowd control while the Sniper picks them off. This is actually why i insist on vets running that grenade chance on elite kill perk. I never ran out of nades when playing with my vet friend who had it and on heresy+ there's so many elites.
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Jan 4, 2023 11:39
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Jerkface posted:Humans defeat genestealers all the time, theyre deadly but so is my reject. The 40k novel Cult of the Spiral Dawn (which is about a genestealer cult) has a bit I love where a purestrain genestealer is trying to assassinate the commander of the local imperial guard but gets grabbed and unceremoniously smashed by the commanders ogryn bodyguarda.
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Jan 4, 2023 11:47
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dogstile posted:This is actually why i insist on vets running that grenade chance on elite kill perk. I never ran out of nades when playing with my vet friend who had it and on heresy+ there's so many elites. Truth. Powersword is just a backup for the carpet of HE nades that comes with every horde, and by the time the stuff that's worth actually shooting all gets killed you have those nades back.
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So I noticed something today - Braced weapons, like the braced autoguns or the ogryn machine gun, have significantly reduced recoil and increased accuracy if shot while both (1) braced and (2) walking forward. I think this explains why e.g. earlier in the thread I was in awe of the braced autogun on my zealot but people playing veterans weren't feeling it, and also why those weapons tend to feel worse to me in the meat grinder. When using one of these guns if you brace and walk forward while shooting, your first 1-3 shots in each burst have near-perfect accuracy and almost no recoil. As long as you just use quick clicks to shoot in short bursts you can literally just snipe everything - since these guns tend to have higher damage at the expense of accuracy/recoil, they can kill most things in 2-3 bullets, and nothing short of crushers can stand up to any of them (the ogryn gun even wrecks crushers - not by piercing armor but by doing hella stagger damage). But if you try to shoot them while standing still, even if you brace, absurd recoil sends you off-target on the very first shot. Crouching seems to give a similar benefit to moving forward, but I don't think it's as strong as moving is (and maybe they stack?).
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Should I rush to finish my weeklies for this lasgun? Stats aren't as good as the one I have but could be a lot worse, but it has decent perks and I think Opening Salvo is good on it. Efficiency is sort of "Whatever" but it is at least max level, which might mean it can go to something better when they let me reroll it. On the one I have reload and Stamina are probably good perks (stamina for Deadshot) Headhunter is decent but I suspect better on the rapid firing versions, but I don't know about Falter, I think it just makes my next shot miss a lot. Possibly I should just hold out for a better statline.
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S.J. posted:Turning a corner and having a sniper instantly fire with no set up time is extremely disconcerting and hitting you through walls/objects.
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Jan 4, 2023 12:52
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BizarroAzrael posted:Possibly I should just hold out for a better statline. That's not an MK12 worth the weekly, IMO. The worst blessing for it plus one unoptimal one, and only Opening Salvo is decent. You have a lot of ammo with a MK12 even on a below-average roll that you'll generally struggle to even spend in most combat encounters; I don't think it's worth scrabbling for.
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The MK12 on the right is way better. Save your melk money. e: upon further consideration, it's more of a sidegrade. Typical Pubbie fucked around with this message at 14:49 on Jan 4, 2023 |
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Re-roll the stamina perk into flak or unyielding and the one on the right is a great weapon
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https://imgur.com/wgiuTi4 Gottem.
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When do we get a mod to accompany the Poxhound Space Program with the Ducktales moon theme
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I did something similar with an eviscerator swing the other day, but it turns out that even if the physics glitch out and the dog shoots upward, if you've caught it with an active chainsword it will abruptly freeze 20 feet in the air while you cut it in half
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minor gripe, when will they show the lore blurbs for weapons again? I miss those.
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lore blurbs from my shows
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Pop Up Video: We love the 40,000s!
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Cowcaster posted:lore blurbs from my shows Blorebo...
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Cowcaster posted:lore blurbs from my shows why yes this is 40k
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Cowcaster posted:lore blurbs from my shows Look I don't have any interest in painting the little plastic dolls but I like how they look and I like telling stories about them. I would say that I waste brainpower on knowing this but I would never have accomplished anything anyway.
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Jan 4, 2023 19:42
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Benagain posted:Look I don't have any interest in painting the little plastic dolls but I like how they look and I like telling stories about them. I would say that I waste brainpower on knowing this but I would never have accomplished anything anyway. I was the same as you for the longest time, and then I got roped into a kill team group. The hobby side of the game is actually pretty fun. It's an interesting way to express your creativity (from straight up "follow these instructions") to incredible amount of freewheeling expression with kitbashing and the like. I didn't think it would be as... meditative(?) as it is, but now that I've got a few models to paint, I do enjoy it. I absolutely acknowledge that the hobby side is very expensive to get into (as far as board games go), and takes up a bit of space with all the poo poo you need for it.
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Improbable Lobster posted:The 40k novel Cult of the Spiral Dawn (which is about a genestealer cult) has a bit I love where a purestrain genestealer is trying to assassinate the commander of the local imperial guard but gets grabbed and unceremoniously smashed by the commanders ogryn bodyguarda. It's a good bit: Spiral Dawn posted:The armoured roof of its prey finally gave way and the Riven Hunter’s claw punched through to the cabin beneath. Gripping the torn metal, it ripped away a chunk of plating to create a fissure. Eager for slaughter, the beast squeezed its torso into the gap like a lizard. As it pressed forward slab-like hands seized it and heaved it inside. Surprised, the Purestrain struggled in their grip and whipped over onto its back. In short, genestealers are essentially roided-up xenomorphs: really fast, really deadly, and really fragile. They can rip a hole in a tank and blender it's occupants in short order, but scores of them will die to small arms fire if caught in the open. They'd fit right in Darktide.
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