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Raenir Salazar posted:21 Not McCarthy votes now? Same as yesterday, only change is now Trump was proposed.
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Raenir Salazar posted:21 Not McCarthy votes now? someone who was on the McCarthy camp switched to voting "present" as a "let's get on with it" protest vote last night
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Raenir Salazar posted:21 Not McCarthy votes now? Exact same as yesterday, except that Gaetz voted for Trump instead of Donalds (Spartz has been voting present since like vote 3 or 4)
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Dr. VooDoo posted:One aspect I don’t see brought up about how the Republicans doing this to themselves is those 20 anti-McCarthy freaks have no threats to their power due to the GOP gerrymandering and voter suppression in their districts so hard. They can do whatever they want, the GOP anointed them god kings of their territories they have no threat of being voted out. That sucks, huh, McCarthy? Also he could've expelled them after 1/6 but was too much of a spineless coward. Reap what you sow, Kevin.
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Jan 5, 2023 19:25
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Anonymous house quotes to the political press are just about as non-binding as it gets but are leaning into the "is it worth supporting McCarthy if he's giving the keys to the HFC" camp
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So, 21 votes against, McCarthy agrees to meet all those ridiculous demands, and we still get 21 votes against? Sounds like the Republican party negotiating tactics we've all come to know and love, just pointed inwards this time.
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Civilized Fishbot posted:I think the problem is that Boebert understands she won't get re-elected so she's going to use the next 2 years to build up her reputation as a MAGA freedom warrior Wingnut Welfare system for me not for thee.
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Politico posted:“At some point, you have to push back and say enough is enough,” one frustrated House Republican said on condition of anonymity late Wednesday night, shortly before the latest concession offer emerged. “But especially when you have members [in opposition] that had [McCarthy] hosting fundraisers and taking photos with them out in their districts.”
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Jan 5, 2023 19:32
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I wonder if McCarthy can try a gamble and call their bluff, announce everyone can freely vote for who they want and if this end up with someone having more votes than McCarthy he'll support them as Speaker, if not then everyone should support him and get it over with? Could Dems potentially pull a Lincoln, find vulnerable Republicans in Biden leaning districts, older closer to retirement aged Republicans, people who seem more into this for money and power and try to bribe them with positions in the Executive branch to switch to D, or to soft ball future Dem primaries? They just need 6 Republicans to switch or support Jefferies or some lesser number and some number of Present/Abstainations? If this clown show keeps going for long enough this has gotta get more possible right?
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Popete posted:This all bodes well for a GOP controlled house getting a lot accomplished over the next few years. Especially as it sounds like McCarthy is caving on needing only one member to start a vote to oust the speaker. 
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Jan 5, 2023 19:33
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Either vote for another candidate already or vote Present, you cowards.
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Jan 5, 2023 19:33
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Gonna be hilarious when Scalise or whoever tries to take over and the negotiations start at, "So McCarthy gave in to literally every demand we had. What are you going to give us on top of that?"
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Jan 5, 2023 19:36
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Trump didn't just lose badly, he finished second in the number of Donalds.
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Bremen posted:So, 21 votes against, McCarthy agrees to meet all those ridiculous demands, and we still get 21 votes against? Oh yeah absolutely it literally couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of folks
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Votes for speaker really show you who fake friends are..... https://twitter.com/RepScottPerry/status/1611065247300784140
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Jan 5, 2023 19:40
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"Honorable Donald J. Trump" HA ROUND 8 BEGINS
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Has anyone done a picture with McCarthy as Charlie Brown, and the HFC as Lucy? Those pictures are my favorite. Good Grief indeed.
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Xombie posted:Why is he standing at the podium? Idk, better not get too comfy though 
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matt gaetz, please actually nominate Trump this time
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It rules that the GOP has literally no stick to stop this because the HFC is beholden to the psychos that are the GOP primary voters more then anything else.
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Welcome back, my friends To the vote that never ends We're so glad you could attend Vote inside! Vote inside There behind a glass Stands McCarthy the crass Be careful as you pass Vote along! Vote along Come inside, the show's about to start Guaranteed to blow your head apart Rest assured you'll get your money's worth The greatest show in Heaven, Hell, or Earth
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Raenir Salazar posted:Could Dems potentially pull a Lincoln, find vulnerable Republicans in Biden leaning districts, older closer to retirement aged Republicans, people who seem more into this for money and power and try to bribe them with positions in the Executive branch to switch to D, or to soft ball future Dem primaries? They just need 6 Republicans to switch or support Jefferies or some lesser number and some number of Present/Abstainations? If this clown show keeps going for long enough this has gotta get more possible right? The Jan 6 committee Republicans found sinecures with the likes of CNN, so that or the various think tanks might be another possibility.
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LionYeti posted:It rules that the GOP has literally no stick to stop this because the HFC is beholden to the psychos that are the GOP primary voters more then anything else. they theoretically do, it's to just toss the negotiations with the HFC aside and go to a consensus moderate speaker with the Dems. this is sort of a nuke option because a) it would absolutely incense the base, and b) it would involve tossing out McCarthy, but it's the one threat they have against them, because any pick like that would give the HFC absolutely nothing
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Piell posted:VOTE EIGHT IS ON Does McCarthy think that calling more votes will somehow magically get people to change their vote does he think voting is a mantra and you just have to repeat it enough times
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Does McCarthy think that calling more votes will somehow magically get people to change their vote Maybe he's trying to speed run the "most losses for speaker votes" category?
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Does McCarthy think that calling more votes will somehow magically get people to change their vote He wants to stop but doesn't think he has the votes to adjourn, per reporting https://twitter.com/JakeSherman/status/1611071521761513472
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Does McCarthy think that calling more votes will somehow magically get people to change their vote Yes. I'd have to dig up the story, but yes. e: "Outside the bathroom, McCarthy explained how the votes would wear down his opposition, how they’d come to see that there was no viable alternative to him. He pointed out that the Republican whom all 19 of his detractors had backed on the second ballot, Representative Jim Jordan of Ohio, didn’t even want the speaker’s job and was supporting him. “It’ll change eventually,” McCarthy said." He does not understand the position he is in and will not give up what he feels he is due.
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Raenir Salazar posted:Could Dems potentially pull a Lincoln, find vulnerable Republicans in Biden leaning districts, older closer to retirement aged Republicans, people who seem more into this for money and power and try to bribe them with positions in the Executive branch to switch to D, or to soft ball future Dem primaries? They just need 6 Republicans to switch or support Jefferies or some lesser number and some number of Present/Abstainations? If this clown show keeps going for long enough this has gotta get more possible right? This is a good way to look at it, and I found https://ballotpedia.org/U.S._House_districts_represented_by_a_Republican_in_2022_and_won_by_Joe_Biden_in_2020 which lists 2022 races where the incumbent was an R in a Biden district, looks like most of them won. I know nothing about them, but I assume their phones are going off the hook.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Does McCarthy think that calling more votes will somehow magically get people to change their vote i think they're just going through the motions while they try to hammer out a deal
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Randalor posted:Maybe he's trying to speed run the "most losses for speaker votes" category? The record is 133 ballots, took two months, and was in 1855. It ended with a resolution to accept a plurality.
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