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bird food bathtub
Aug 9, 2003

College Slice

Hyrax Attack! posted:

Has Russia begun sending navy crews as infantry into Ukraine? Guessing that would be a way to get a few thousand guys, and if they were sending missile technicians wouldn’t be out of character.

They did have a significant reduction in the required amount of naval personnel in the region of Ukraine recently.

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GD_American
Jul 21, 2004

LISTEN TO WHAT I HAVE TO SAY AS IT'S INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT!

Lemniscate Blue posted:

I wouldn't be too surprised to find they'd pulled all the Kuznetsov's firefighters and DC people. It might explain a few things.

Well at least they have experience in working under fire

aphid_licker
Jan 7, 2009


A.o.D. posted:

Russia has forces designated as Naval Infantry, they're something like the US Marines, but also not. They're theoretically trained in conventional warfare, and have a long history of being used as such. Using those guys in Ukraine wouldn't be much of a stretch. Using engine techs off the Kunetsov is a different story, of course.

Oh no, Kusnezov's readiness level might go down :geno:

Rust Martialis
May 8, 2007

At night, Bavovnyatko quietly comes to the occupiers’ bases, depots, airfields, oil refineries and other places full of flammable items and starts playing with fire there

aphid_licker posted:

Oh no, Kusnezov's readiness level might go down :geno:

Well it's in dock so they can probably refloat it after

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



Rust Martialis posted:

Well it's in dock so they can probably refloat it after

but what about when the dock sinks

Comrade Blyatlov
Aug 4, 2007


should have picked four fingers





I'm aware of a couple cases of that actually happening

GD_American
Jul 21, 2004

LISTEN TO WHAT I HAVE TO SAY AS IT'S INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT!

Comrade Blyatlov posted:

I'm aware of a couple cases of that actually happening

A lot of them are designed to do it.

The real fun comes when they don't come back up like they're supposed to.

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May

GD_American posted:

A lot of them are designed to do it.

The real fun comes when they don't come back up like they're supposed to.

Just like an AAV.

Herstory Begins Now
Aug 5, 2003
SOME REALLY TEDIOUS DUMB SHIT THAT SUCKS ASS TO READ ->>
the dock fell off

Odradek
May 23, 2007

Don't hate me because I'm cute

Icon Of Sin posted:

Elemental mercury, if you’re :jeb:

Did somebody say Mercury? Here is "A Tall Tail" by Charles Stross: https://www.tor.com/2012/07/20/a-tall-tail/

Murgos
Oct 21, 2010

Icon Of Sin posted:

Chemical corps is forever doomed to do literally anything but their primary purpose, and the world is a better place for that fact.

Can confirm. My MOS was 5711 (NBC Specialist) and spent every minute deployed doing patrols and security.

lightpole
Jun 4, 2004
I think that MBAs are useful, in case you are looking for an answer to the question of "Is lightpole a total fucking idiot".
I think a point was that they barely had enough time in training for their specialty and none for infantry.

slurm
Jul 28, 2022

by Hand Knit
Went to school with a guy who had been a cook in the Navy and gone and got blown up in a convoy. His brain was definitely not right, it was pretty hosed because he was good at being a sea cook.

GD_American
Jul 21, 2004

LISTEN TO WHAT I HAVE TO SAY AS IT'S INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT!
I met an NBC E-4 on my first guard shift rotation in OIF 2.

He left that base an E-6

Coasterphreak
May 29, 2007
I like cookies.

slurm posted:

Went to school with a guy who had been a cook in the Navy and gone and got blown up in a convoy. His brain was definitely not right, it was pretty hosed because he was good at being a sea cook.

anyone that can function in a commercial kitchen environment is hosed in the head, hth

Nick Soapdish
Apr 27, 2008


https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1611003409359855617?t=hNVrcYRknLL9SyfG4XAdDg&s=19

Yeah, no that's not a basis for negotiating

Alchenar
Apr 9, 2008

'If you admit defeat and give into half of our demands we will talk to you about how you can give in to the rest of our demands'.

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

I always encourage my opponent to give in to my demands whenever I'm losing.

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...
Zelensky: "Yes Russia is East Ukraine"

Putin: "Da. Wait nyet"

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

Didn't Kyiv's city council revoke Moscow's founding charter? Moscow can't hold turf if it doesn't exist.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

"If I keep demanding the same thing while having no room to make those demands, surely they'll give in."

Hyperlynx
Sep 13, 2015

Is it just me, or have there been fewer updates about the war itt over the past few weeks, compared to before that? Are sources not posting as much about it? Or is it just that the situation is now more static?

SerthVarnee
Mar 13, 2011

It has been two zero days since last incident.
Big Super Slapstick Hunk
Lots of updates came through twitter, which has seen a marked reduction in credible war updates, from what I've understood.

Tuna-Fish
Sep 13, 2017

Hyperlynx posted:

Is it just me, or have there been fewer updates about the war itt over the past few weeks, compared to before that? Are sources not posting as much about it? Or is it just that the situation is now more static?

Hellmud is in full swing, vehicles can only move on roads. The only kind of war going on is infantry assaults fighting over the same house over and over and artillery duels, which produces a lot less news.

This can change quickly with just a few days of good freeze, but so far the winter in Ukraine has been really mild. It's cold right now on most of the front, but it's only been like that for a day, and they are forecasting warm weather again for tomorrow. IIRC you need like a week of -1°C, four days of ~-5°C, or two days of really cold for the ground to be firm enough for heavy vehicles.

The north is almost certainly going to freeze up over the weekend, and the south might freeze on next week, unless the weather changes again.

Herstory Begins Now
Aug 5, 2003
SOME REALLY TEDIOUS DUMB SHIT THAT SUCKS ASS TO READ ->>
There's also a bunch of other big news crowding out the news cycles

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

There also just haven't been a lot of major operational developments. It's currently at a stalemate, with Russia trying their hardest to lose the attrition fight.

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



Hyperlynx posted:

Is it just me, or have there been fewer updates about the war itt over the past few weeks, compared to before that? Are sources not posting as much about it? Or is it just that the situation is now more static?

Once the mud freezes you'll start to see more activity but right now the mud makes it virtually impossible to move anything. Sometime this month the mud should freeze and stay frozen for a month or 2, and both sides are waiting on it.

Arishtat
Jan 2, 2011

Here’s some video shot by a local news outlet in Ukrainian (with subtitles) that shows current conditions in Eastern Ukraine:

https://youtu.be/Fn_vfwNMa3k

It’s not quite what I’d call hellmud, but unless your vehicle has tracks it’s not going off-road any time soon.

Herstory Begins Now
Aug 5, 2003
SOME REALLY TEDIOUS DUMB SHIT THAT SUCKS ASS TO READ ->>
Hromadske has been doing really fascinating interviews for a long time, highly recommend going through their backlog

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
The Enforcer youtube channel does daily livestream updates.

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost
This dodgy looking link is a US government link to the Pentagon Press Secretary's press conference today.

https://d34w7g4gy10iej.cloudfront.net/video/2301/DOD_109399492/DOD_109399492-1280x720-3000k.mp4

This was also largely about topics other than Ukraine, and I'm not going to write about anything else other than Ukraine in this post. All of this is a paraphrase as I listen, so you get what you pay for.

-Security assistance will be more formally/fully announced tomorrow. The announcement will include Bradley Fighting Vehicles.
-The Pentagon is not yet prepared to talk about transport or training timeline before they can be shipped or operationalized in Ukraine. They expect to have updates "in the coming days." Training will include both operations and maintenance.
-No indications that Russia intends to utilize Belarus to open a new front
-Skepticism about Russia's ceasefire reports. Skepticism that Russia is being truthful.
-Maintenance is a significant consideration with any weapon transfer, and that remains true of the Bradley
-No announcements on any allied Patriot commitments (there are news reports Germany is providing 1x Patriot battery)
-US training focus has been for systems the US provides. Partner nations focusing on other training, including collective training.
-US will stand up Ukrainian combined arms/maneuver training at the rate of one battalion rotation per month, hosted in Germany.
-In response to question as to whether US providing Bradleys influences ally donations of things like Marders or AMXs, kind of a long answer about how the US has been one of the lead nations in working with NATO, allies, and partners to assess the best, integrated way to support Ukraine with capabilities it requires. References Ukraine Contact Group, rather than individual donations without a combined approach.
-Nations find they are at a point in this war where they can commit to long-term sustainment of complex systems, such as air defense systems, in a way that wasn't feasible in the early days/weeks of the war.
-Patriot training details are still being worked out. Could be overseas, in the US, or combination of both.
-When asked if this is a response to concern about a second Russian mobilization (journalist brought that up, not Pentagon), Press Sec pushed back a bit and said this is about the Russian invasion. Says support is based on Ukrainian needs, capabilities, and what can feasibly be provided by US, allies, and partners.
-When asked about Abrams, no additional announcements to make. All options remain on table for near, medium, long-term.
-"It's not a tank, but it's a tank-killer" while being able to deliver troops into combat. (this in reference to the trap question of describing a Bradley vs a tank).

GD_American
Jul 21, 2004

LISTEN TO WHAT I HAVE TO SAY AS IT'S INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT!

mlmp08 posted:

-US will stand up Ukrainian combined arms/maneuver training at the rate of one battalion rotation per month, hosted in Germany. \

Bet it's exciting times for Graf cadre.

What do you think the Bradleys will change strategically about how Ukraine operates?

A.o.D.
Jan 15, 2006

GD_American posted:

Bet it's exciting times for Graf cadre.

What do you think the Bradleys will change strategically about how Ukraine operates?

Hopefully an ability to bypass trench warfare on the technology tree.

Kaiser Schnitzel
Mar 29, 2006

Schnitzel mit uns


Herstory Begins Now posted:

Hromadske has been doing really fascinating interviews for a long time, highly recommend going through their backlog
Yeah those are really powerful and you really get the tragic sense that these are real, normal people that random drone footage doesn’t capture. Also that Ukrainians definitely respect the Russians as adversaries-they aren’t all idiots.

Comrade Blyatlov
Aug 4, 2007


should have picked four fingers





This is a big old yikes from me

https://www.spiegel.de/internationa...19-898fc666a612


quote:

Germany's foreign intelligence agency, the BND, has been rocked by an espionage scandal centered around one of its staffers. The man, who is suspected of having spied for Russia, works in a department that provides critical intelligence in the Ukraine war.

TheDeadlyShoe
Feb 14, 2014

GD_American posted:

Bet it's exciting times for Graf cadre.

What do you think the Bradleys will change strategically about how Ukraine operates?

Bradleys are not like unique capable or anything, the biggest difference is if enough Bradleys/Marders arrive that Ukraine can stand up additional offensive forces and get enough mass to give Russia a real bad day while still maintaining reserves.

M_Gargantua
Oct 16, 2006

STOMP'N ON INTO THE POWERLINES

Exciting Lemon
Mechanized = mobility

So long as you don't get stuck in the mud. And properly screen

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.
Abrams are on the table? loving Abrams?

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...

FrozenVent posted:

Abrams are on the table? loving Abrams?

my man we gave them far better already

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Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...
https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1610990467226931200


https://twitter.com/osamabishounen/status/1610818193228197888

https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1610738740682686464

https://twitter.com/Havoc_Six/status/1610742636914282496

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