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Blackbelt Bobman posted:You should be thanking the Sabres for Ullmark, all things considered! I hope he stays healthy, he deserves nice things. Obviously no one knew Ullmark was going to be this good, but between looking at his numbers on some of those Sabres teams he played for and the old fashioned eye test, it did seem like he was arguably the best goalie in their system in recent years. I wonder why they let him walk.
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T-Bone posted:Obviously you need to see it over multiple seasons and he's gotta stay healthy and yadda yadda but he's been a top 10 player (honestly closer to top 5) in the NHL this year. Maybe the Devils did actually get the #1 in a good lottery. So here's my  MacKinnon-McDavid-Marner Marchand-Crosby-Bergeron Barzal-Stamkos-Point Dubois-Tavares-Stone Giroux/Scheifele Pietrangelo-Makar Theodore-Hamilton Morrissey-Pelech Ekblad Kuemper Jarry Thompson Won't do a next up because there's a billion Canadian forwards who could end up in those last 3-4 spots on F especially but there you go. That's...really close. I like Canada's D more, the US goaltending is better, and the forward groups are as close as they've ever been, it's almost a pick em' there. Canada's forwards are old though comparatively, drat. Good thing they've got Bedard/Celebrini/Fantilli/Misa on the way.
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Mcqueen posted:What are the Kraken going to do with two not great goalies going forward? Asking as a new fan, is this normal? The question actually is what are they gonna do with three once Drieger is healthy (possibly quite soon).
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I think I actually like the American defense better, by just a smidge. One interesting thing about that US roster is that a lot of those guys have played together, and won a lot, in international tournaments for quite a while. From like 2015-2017 there was that cohort of the USNTDP that did very well against their peer competition, and a lot of those guys would be on the hypothetical US roster now. If you take a look at the WJC rosters from those years it's kind of amazing. Might be the best age group of US talent ever.
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Jamwad Hilder posted:Obviously no one knew Ullmark was going to be this good, but between looking at his numbers on some of those Sabres teams he played for and the old fashioned eye test, it did seem like he was arguably the best goalie in their system in recent years. I wonder why they let him walk. I am not sure why, but did the Bruins know they had a goalie this good? I thought Swayman was headed into the season as their number one? Or was it always going to be shared duties?
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It's just goalie voodoo and it will end in tears like goalie voodoo always does
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Yeah Ullmark had stats of “backup at best” before the Bruins signed him and at the time a 4 year contract at whatever they paid him seemed like a huge overpay.
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Twin Cinema posted:I am not sure why, but did the Bruins know they had a goalie this good? I thought Swayman was headed into the season as their number one? Or was it always going to be shared duties? Last season, they started off getting roughly even starts but Ullmark played his way into the starter position. Ullmark is making $5mil so they definitely didn't just sign him to be a backup though. They must have seen something in him because that was nearly double his previous contract with the Sabres.
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Eric the Mauve posted:It's just goalie voodoo and it will end in tears like goalie voodoo always does Also, this. You can only depend on one or two goalies, and even then, things can vary wildly.
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Jamwad Hilder posted:Obviously no one knew Ullmark was going to be this good, but between looking at his numbers on some of those Sabres teams he played for and the old fashioned eye test, it did seem like he was arguably the best goalie in their system in recent years. I wonder why they let him walk. They didn’t, he chose to walk. It’s most Jason Botteril’s fault for signing guys like Ullmark and Reinhart to bridge contracts instead of locking them up long term. That’s part of why Kevyn is a great GM, he knows who his core guys are and made sure they would be sticking around.
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Duckman2008 posted:Yeah Ullmark had stats of “backup at best” before the Bruins signed him and at the time a 4 year contract at whatever they paid him seemed like a huge overpay. Backup at best stats on a team playing Rasmus Ristolainen as a #1 dman should have been extrapolatable for the average fan/GM
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:Backup at best stats on a team playing Rasmus Ristolainen as a #1 dman should have been extrapolatable for the average fan/GM God I already have PTSD from Risto this is a good point.
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The Bruins felt, and probably still feel, like Swayman is the goalie of the future. Ullmark was brought in to split starts with Swayman because Rask was going to retire and running Swayman/Vladar wasn't a realistic option. I think based on Ullmark's performance in Buffalo they thought he'd be better behind Boston's defense, but probably still only a 50% of the games kind of goalie. That's pretty much what happened the first season, but this year Swayman has struggled a bit (although he's still playing ok for a 24 year old) and Ullmark has shown he's definite starter material and having a Vezina caliber year.Blackbelt Bobman posted:They didn’t, he chose to walk. It’s most Jason Botteril’s fault for signing guys like Ullmark and Reinhart to bridge contracts instead of locking them up long term. That’s part of why Kevyn is a great GM, he knows who his core guys are and made sure they would be sticking around. That makes sense. Obviously he's living up to the contract he got, and more, but I can see why Buffalo would balk at what he got based on his body of work.
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Ullmark, Risto, Reinhart and Eichel were a part of the org when it was a toxic environment. They basically couldn’t stay because the org was so lovely that it pushed them out. Kevyn Adams talked a lot early on about having players who loved Buffalo and wanted to be a part of the team, which sounded stupid at first but that was key to building the current culture they’ve finally developed. It helps that he embraced analytics, drafted really well and hired the right coach so the team is playing well and has a good pipeline. The only guys left from the Eichel era are guys who still really wanted to be a Sabre, like Dahlin, Mittelstadt, Okposo and Girgensens. Skinner was a trade obv and he wasn’t going anywhere with that contract. Everybody else has bought in hard and this team finally has a strong foundation. It’s a good time to be a Sabres fan, finally!
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I like that "being outside of the playoffs, but only by a little bit" qualifies as a good time to be a Sabres fan. I guess after that 15 win season the other year it's a huge improvement though.
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Jamwad Hilder posted:I like that "being outside of the playoffs, but only by a little bit" qualifies as a good time to be a Sabres fan. I guess after that 15 win season the other year it's a huge improvement though. It's also the "number one offense in the league and really fun to watch" thing
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Jamwad Hilder posted:I like that "being outside of the playoffs, but only by a little bit" qualifies as a good time to be a Sabres fan. I guess after that 15 win season the other year it's a huge improvement though. They scored six goals in one period earlier this season, four of which were from Tage. They are insane and I love every second of it.
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Cartoon Man posted:Mantha’s gonna get traded. Who wants him? Where should he go? St. Louis for a Tarasenko rental
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Cartoon Man posted:Mantha’s gonna get traded. Who wants him? Where should he go? A 28 year old making $5.7M with another year on his contract? Unless Washington’s willing to retain salary or spend futures in a cap dump it’s gonna be real hard to find a team that can swallow that.
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It's weird that Mantha hasn't worked out in Washington. Idk if it's depth problems or what but he's been so underwhelming, and he was pretty good in Detroit.
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Koopa Kid posted:A 28 year old making $5.7M with another year on his contract? Unless Washington’s willing to retain salary or spend futures in a cap dump it’s gonna be real hard to find a team that can swallow that. The extra year's the killer, otherwise he'd make a nifty matching salary in a vet rental.
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Mcqueen posted:What are the Kraken going to do with two not great goalies going forward? Asking as a new fan, is this normal? not having good goal tending is an essential part of the NHL fan experience, unless you are one of like 3-4 lucky franchises
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This happens so often I can't even be bothered to get annoyed anymore. Just a bunch of pathetic losers top to bottom.
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In case you missed it, Dahlin scored a “controller disconnected” goal last night. He had 2g3a5p last night lol https://twitter.com/buffalosabres/status/1611896640427937794?s=46&t=crKxgxwnpcokAr9Z7FX1fQ
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Jamwad Hilder posted:It's weird that Mantha hasn't worked out in Washington. Idk if it's depth problems or what but he's been so underwhelming, and he was pretty good in Detroit. He's had every opportunity, dude just coasts most of the time. There was a glimmer of something in the playoffs when he got some snarl in his game and started throwing his big rear end around. Unfortunately the chance to show something was brief.
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How management doesn’t see stuff like that and immediately make moves to at least change the culture of the team boggles my mind.
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Wippersnapper posted:How management doesn’t see stuff like that and immediately make moves to at least change the culture of the team boggles my mind. He's not gonna re-sign. I fully expect him to ask out this summer.
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Jamwad Hilder posted:Luckily the Canucks should get a good player when they pick 9th overall i know this is tongue in cheek but occassionally a really good player falls to 9th like ehlers in 2014
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e: wrong thread but Pens powerplay still awful, that's the news
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Call Your Grandma posted:i know this is tongue in cheek but occassionally a really good player falls to 9th like ehlers in 2014 my comment was less about players who go 9th overall and more about the Canucks being this bad and still not picking in the top 3.
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Call Your Grandma posted:i know this is tongue in cheek but occassionally a really good player falls to 9th like ehlers in 2014 I have faith that Vancouver will gently caress up the draft no matter where they pick. They could probably gently caress up first overall, somehow.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/WHLsilvertips/status/1612275663926628353 Just to remind everyone how stupid the chl is.
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Call Your Grandma posted:i know this is tongue in cheek but occassionally a really good player falls to 9th like ehlers in 2014 The guy who just scored the OT winner for Canada at the World Juniors was the 9th overall back in 2021! Fortunately, the Canucks had nothing to do with that pick at any point.
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