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Kevlar v2.0 posted:What I've heard is that bref values defense more than Fangraphs in their WAR formula. That would make sense as Torres/Reynolds aren't that far apart offensively (Reynolds has 12 OPS+ over Torres) but Torres is 1.2 bWAR ahead of Reynolds.
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Jan 12, 2023 23:00
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They also use different defensive metrics for their respective WAR calcs, neither of which are the statcast-based OAA you can get on Baseball Savant. And then on the pitching side they are very different, with FG based on FIP and BR based on RA with some significant adjustments for defense.
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Jan 12, 2023 23:06
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Ya DWAR outside of statcast seems made up nonsense and I'm not sure why neither uses it aside from trying to be smarter than the room which well ya.
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Jan 12, 2023 23:18
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well statcast wasn't available when bWAR and fWAR were developed but yeah they ought to update with it now that they can, but maybe it has something to do with trying to apply somewhat consistent methods to historical players as well then again, you're never going to have reliable defensive metrics for a guy that played in the 1930's so maybe just get the current players right if you can?
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Jan 12, 2023 23:30
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https://twitter.com/dcsportsbog/status/1613652312987246614 The tl;dr from the article is that the main hangup to selling the Nats is that their broadcasting rights are owned by an RSN the Orioles and Nats have a joint stake in, and there's an outstanding lawsuit over the Nats potentially being owed hundreds of millions of dollars. There's also no idea what the broadcasting revenue will look like going forward either and any potential buyers want it all cleared up before they agree to buy. Also not helping the situation is that thanks to the Nats fetish for deferred money they currently have ~$250M of debt on the books locked up in deferred salaries.  Looking like a sale might just not be possible right now.
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Darude - Adam Sandstorm posted:Ya DWAR outside of statcast seems made up nonsense and I'm not sure why neither uses it aside from trying to be smarter than the room which well ya.
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Kirios posted:Dominguez looked horrible in fall ball - he's a good candidate to sell high on IMO. I think it's fine to trade just him for Reynolds but him along with one of the SSs is too much.
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Jan 13, 2023 00:57
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live with fruit posted:Maybe but also the clips are balls hit near the line by right-handed batters. Of course Castellanos is going to have to run to his left to get them. yeah he had 7 chances in the entire WS, it's really not possible to say that he's suddenly a great fielder based on that kind of sample size
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Jan 13, 2023 01:29
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I don't think anyone was saying that, it was just a neat little blurb
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Jan 13, 2023 01:32
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I'm personally in the camp of 'Jasson is very overrated as a prospect', but judging a guy on a month in the Fall League is not a good idea for any prospect.
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Jan 13, 2023 01:33
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The real reason Correa re-signed https://twitter.com/betsyhelfand/status/1613570907272019974 He needs to get revenge next year
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Jan 13, 2023 01:35
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IcePhoenix posted:The real reason Correa re-signed Is that Tommy Pham's music?!
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Jan 13, 2023 01:42
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Improbably Buxton's team managed to stay healthy all season
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Jan 13, 2023 01:43
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https://twitter.com/Buster_ESPN/status/1613702070166761478 https://i.imgur.com/qoosCUy.mp4
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Jan 13, 2023 02:43
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gently caress too robot umps
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Jan 13, 2023 02:51
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We live in a complete hell world. We get robot umps but they don't look or talk like Johnny 5 or Johnny Cab.
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Jan 13, 2023 03:21
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I think Henry Davis (2021 #1 pick of the Pirates) talked about the robo-umps thing on yesterday's Baseball BBQ podcast and said that he thought it was pretty useful, because I guess you are allowed to challenge calls and it also helps the umpires to improve their calls
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Sydin posted:https://twitter.com/dcsportsbog/status/1613652312987246614 What a mess. I’d say I’m surprised Selig allowed the Expos to move without settling the broadcasting rights, but creating a big problem through inaction while taking shortsighted credit is certainly his thing. Stealth edit: I suppose I’m speaking so broadly I just described the entire PMC
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FlamingLiberal posted:I think Henry Davis (2021 #1 pick of the Pirates) talked about the robo-umps thing on yesterday's Baseball BBQ podcast and said that he thought it was pretty useful, because I guess you are allowed to challenge calls and it also helps the umpires to improve their calls Half the parks are doing full ABS and half are doing tennis-style challenges. I expect we're going to see a lot of old umps get a lot better at calling balls and strikes real quick. No one's gonna have to earn part of the zone
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Jan 13, 2023 03:58
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FlamingLiberal posted:I think Henry Davis (2021 #1 pick of the Pirates) talked about the robo-umps thing on yesterday's Baseball BBQ podcast and said that he thought it was pretty useful, because I guess you are allowed to challenge calls and it also helps the umpires to improve their calls And he doesn't have to worry about framing.
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Jan 13, 2023 04:59
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Oh man I loving hate the idea of being able to challenge balls and strikes. Just another thing that's gonna hold the loving game up forever and completely break the flow of big moments. The only way I could see it working reasonably well would be that if the ump makes a blatantly poor call the computer automatically overturns it but even that would lead to moments where the ump rings a guy up in a key AB only for the computer to say no ball four a couple seconds later and everybody in the stadium is confused about what the gently caress just happened. The only feasible way I see to implement an automatic zone calling system would be to give the homeplate ump an ear piece that tells them ball/strike after a pitch is delivered and the umpire's job is just to deliver the message to the players/fans. No challenges, no ump discretion, if you cry about a call it's an automatic ejection (granted that's more or less the case already.) No fuss no muss. Granted the technology would really have to be there 100% to pull it off and at least from what I heard about the experiments in the independent leagues and lower minors it's not, at least not as of a couple years ago.
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Jan 13, 2023 05:34
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Let the umpires call balls and strikes, but if they blow a call, the robot ump razzes them with sad tromobone, YA BLEW IT, etc
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Jan 13, 2023 06:18
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Sydin posted:https://twitter.com/dcsportsbog/status/1613652312987246614 The Orioles/Nats MASN pissing match is still active? You would think a real comish would find a way to settle this by now
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Jan 13, 2023 06:33
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Sydin posted:Oh man I loving hate the idea of being able to challenge balls and strikes. Just another thing that's gonna hold the loving game up forever and completely break the flow of big moments. The only way I could see it working reasonably well would be that if the ump makes a blatantly poor call the computer automatically overturns it but even that would lead to moments where the ump rings a guy up in a key AB only for the computer to say no ball four a couple seconds later and everybody in the stadium is confused about what the gently caress just happened. Tennis style challenges take like five seconds and are initiated by the players not the managers e: here's how it was used last year https://twitter.com/farmtofame_/status/1561197425754267650 IcePhoenix fucked around with this message at 07:06 on Jan 13, 2023 |
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Jan 13, 2023 07:04
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Challenges for pitches are dumb and you have to add additional metagame poo poo around them like how many do you get etc. Just call it right the first time with the machines. If they aren’t fast enough to do that yet then they aren’t ready yet.
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Jan 13, 2023 07:06
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I think if something would improve the game now (getting accurate calls on balls and strikes in basically the time it takes the pitcher to get the ball back from the catcher and ready himself anyway) then we should use it and keep improving it instead of just waiting for it to be perfect
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Jan 13, 2023 07:19
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IcePhoenix posted:e: here's how it was used last year This sucks and it's going to be unbearable to watch.
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Jan 13, 2023 08:00
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Anything that prevents umps from influencing the game because their feelings got hurt is cool and good
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Jan 13, 2023 08:28
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Angel Hernandez is going to have an enormous meltdown and retire on the field and it'll make everything worth it I bet he tries to toss anyone who makes a challenge and/or whoever is sending in the review
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Jan 13, 2023 08:33
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Robo umps are bad
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Jan 13, 2023 08:49
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Look, someone still has to sweep home plate
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Jan 13, 2023 08:55
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Can't get a robot to do that, can you
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i wish they were actually on the field robo umps so we could see someone go David Ortiz on one
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Jan 13, 2023 09:53
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Challenging a spot call in tennis is basically instant and they show it on the jumbotron/big screen
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FlamingLiberal posted:I'm personally in the camp of 'Jasson is very overrated as a prospect', but judging a guy on a month in the Fall League is not a good idea for any prospect. I think he's properly rated at this point by people who actually follow prospects, but the hype was so out of hand that too many people know who he is an never saw anything beyond that barrage of initial headlines.
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more falafel please posted:Look, someone still has to sweep home plate Get a lil Roomba out there
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Then we'll need to invent dust-kicking robots and pretty soon: Judgement Day
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Nodoze posted:Challenging a spot call in tennis is basically instant and they show it on the jumbotron/big screen Yeah this seems like a non issue to me. Aren’t teams only going to get a limited number of challenges per game, like 3 total? It’s not like every pitch would be reviewed.
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Jan 13, 2023 15:32
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In the linked video, I can't tell who is initiating the challenge?
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https://twitter.com/jmackeypg/status/1613906422739222530 Hell yea let's get the band back together
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