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Endorph posted:gareth is my favorite completely inexplicable fire emblem character. presumably he was going to be relevant in the cut goldoa arc in fe9 but why did they even bother bringing him back in fe10. why did they make him playable instead of just having him be a midboss in the tower. who is this man. what are his beliefs. His beliefs are "stand next to Kurthnaga", this is a more coherent motivation than most dragons in the Tellius games let's be real.
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the artbook implies there was a brief power struggle over the goldoan throne between him and dheginsea and then provides no explanation for why he is now his son's bodyguard so hes just as incoherent as the rest of them.
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Jan 15, 2023 07:24
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Endorph posted:gareth is my favorite completely inexplicable fire emblem character. presumably he was going to be relevant in the cut goldoa arc in fe9 but why did they even bother bringing him back in fe10. why did they make him playable instead of just having him be a midboss in the tower. who is this man. what are his beliefs. Maybe they just wanted a Red Dragon playable because they had all the other colours.
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Endorph posted:gareth is my favorite completely inexplicable fire emblem character. presumably he was going to be relevant in the cut goldoa arc in fe9 but why did they even bother bringing him back in fe10. why did they make him playable instead of just having him be a midboss in the tower. who is this man. what are his beliefs. he's gareth
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Jan 15, 2023 07:26
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The best part of Gareth is that he gets one rounded by the (infinite range) final boss if you don't put him on a cover tile so you can't even use his buff to maximum effectiveness.SyntheticPolygon posted:Maybe they just wanted a Red Dragon playable because they had all the other colours. Ena already joined.
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Jan 15, 2023 07:27
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here it is. the ultimate FE tierlist. after this, there will be no need for tierlists.
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WrightOfWay posted:The best part of Gareth is that he gets one rounded by the (infinite range) final boss if you don't put him on a cover tile so you can't even use his buff to maximum effectiveness. fe10 ena is so bad at every part of being a red dragon other than "stand next to people while having blood tide" it could be argued she doesn't count
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i think what modern fe is missing is completely random morons who appear for no discernible plot or gameplay purpose and provide no elaboration. yukimura in fates was a noble attempt but just a touch too coherent. i need a proper caesar or alva.
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Jan 15, 2023 07:32
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Shiny777 posted:fe10 ena is so bad at every part of being a red dragon other than "stand next to people while having blood tide" it could be argued she doesn't count That's the only good part of being a dragon in FE10, though, so she passes with flying colors.
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WrightOfWay posted:The best part of Gareth is that he gets one rounded by the (infinite range) final boss if you don't put him on a cover tile so you can't even use his buff to maximum effectiveness. She's Pink
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Endorph posted:i think what modern fe is missing is completely random morons who appear for no discernible plot or gameplay purpose and provide no elaboration. yukimura in fates was a noble attempt but just a touch too coherent. i need a proper caesar or alva. Shiny777 posted:fe10 ena is so bad at every part of being a red dragon other than "stand next to people while having blood tide" it could be argued she doesn't count Look, all the dragons except for Kurth are terrible at being dragons (in fact, most of the laguz units are frankly terrible at their jobs), Ena is merely a cog in the greater system of late-game Radiant Dawn's "we're really confused as to what we're doing" design philosophy.
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Endorph posted:i think what modern fe is missing is completely random morons who appear for no discernible plot or gameplay purpose and provide no elaboration. yukimura in fates was a noble attempt but just a touch too coherent. i need a proper caesar or alva. Would Holyn fall under this
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Funky Valentine posted:We need more Interchangable Axe Dudes With The Same Portrait. Eh, Nasir's solid enough that he can contribute beyond just being a Tidebot if you want him to and Gareth's problem is that he is in fact the Red Dragon-est Red Dragon possible but some dev clearly hated him since he joins right before the enemy comps become All Magic All The Time. Ena is just uniquely bad because they went "okay, so she's part Red Dragon and part White Dragon, let's give her the latter's mag-focused statline and the former's str-based breath weapon. Pretty much all the non-dragon/heron/royal laguz are kind of poo poo though yeah. Neither game really made them work all that well, imo, but at least in 9 they didn't flip wildly between "outright liability who will loving die in 2 rounds tops if attacked" and "stat blob who will kick rear end for like 3 rounds and then be the liability again if you're not cramming grass down their throat constantly"
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ROFL Octopus posted:Would Holyn fall under this
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theshim posted:here it is. the ultimate FE tierlist. after this, there will be no need for tierlists. 
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There should be a Fire Emblem where after a chapter you just suddenly have a unit, with no explanation given as to how you recruited him or why he's there.
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Jan 15, 2023 07:53
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I know y'all are taking the piss but I actually like it when characters are characters and have personalities and backgrounds and are connected to other people
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Funky Valentine posted:There should be a Fire Emblem where after a chapter you just suddenly have a unit, with no explanation given as to how you recruited him or why he's there. The closest we get to this is that early Awakening chapter with Kellam as a green unit in the deployment zone and if you never talk to him with Chrom he doesn't join. It caught a shocking number of people in the thread when Awakening came out lmao
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Junpei posted:I know y'all are taking the piss but I actually like it when characters are characters and have personalities and backgrounds and are connected to other people
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I mean I did start that post with "I know y'all are taking the piss" so I wasn't mad or anything
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Jan 15, 2023 08:08
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I want an elaboration of the Kellam recruitment joke in Awakening. He joins you on the snow fort map, but he was traveling with you as early as the previous map. Do the same thing, but have this new character actually be playable on the previous map, with no acknowledgment of their existence in previous cutscenes.
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Jan 15, 2023 08:17
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Kellam and Vaike are still not in FEH despite the game starting with mostly Awakening and Fates after 6 years Mustafa from chapter 10 is in the game
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Tae posted:Kellam and Vaike are still not in FEH despite the game starting with mostly Awakening and Fates after 6 years seriously That's uh actually kind of crazy. You'd think they'd have been thrown it at some point with Lucina's 25th alt or whatever.
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Jan 15, 2023 08:27
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they're really scrping the bottom of the barrel of popular characters so they've been stretching them out for years at this point so they'll always have someone vaguely enticing to help sell a banner
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Jan 15, 2023 08:29
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My ideas for Fire Emblem being wacky are just, unique character that fits a genre but stands out still. A cavalry character that rides a giant direwolf or unicorn. You class change them to something else thinking the horse is gone- no the horse is there still, the have unique animations of getting their spellbook out of a satchel before a fight!
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I want an FE character that acts like a magical girl-wait poo poo that's just L'arachel.
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Junpei posted:I want an FE character that acts like a magical girl-wait poo poo that's just L'arachel. https://twitter.com/MikaPikaZo/status/1614275867525488643?s=20&t=8_F4eawVelRHzBasaoPZjg
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Zore posted:seriously Lucina actually doesn't have a lot of alts. I think her dad has more
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Tired Moritz posted:Lucina actually doesn't have a lot of alts. I think her dad has more They've both got 7 currently. If you don't count the Robins and Corrins together, first and second place are Camilla and Lyn with 9 and 8, so both of them are up there.
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Tired Moritz posted:Lucina actually doesn't have a lot of alts. I think her dad has more He's being helpful!
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Is one of Lucina's alts her dressed as the Doctor of Thuganomics?
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Zore posted:seriously I can't remember exactly but I think Vaike was more interesting in the Eng localization or something? Can we get a real Vaike fan to step up to clarify this.
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I'm a Vaike fan and I think he's cool
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vaike wasnt really more interesting in the localization exactly. its just that they took his generic ore-sama shtick and made it the teach thing and that opened the door to teacher/school puns. hes still basically the same guy in jp vs eng, its just his one bit is slightly more memorable in english.
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if youre curious heres a list of playable characters not yet in fe heroes. (if a character is in multiple games and is in i wont list them even if they're only represented once. ie finn is fe5 finn i believe but he's in so im not listing him as a missing fe4 character. if a character is in multiple games and not in ill list them as missing in the first game they were in. ie marcus isnt in so hes listed with fe6.) fe1/3/11/12: frey, cecil, arran, bord, cord, castor, horace, midia, boah, macellan, dolph, tomas, beck, samuel, caesar, radd, warren, frost, gotoh, arlen, wendell, etzel, jubelo, yuliya, belf, reiden, roberto, lorenz, roger, jake, marisha, ymir, samson (these games have Too Many Characters but it is surprising that jake isnt in yet. and midia and lorenz can claim the thinnest shred of plot relevance.) fe2/15: jesse, nomah, mycen (old men, old men. and jesse) fe4: oifey, noish, alec, edain, midir, holyn, claud, dew, beowulf, lester, lana, patty, febail, diarmuid, coirpre, hannibal, fee, Every Substitute. (oifey is the main shocker here) fe5: cain, alva, carrion, selphina, glade, robert, xavier, fergus, halvan, dagdar, marty, conomor, misha, linoan, safy, tina, perne, troude, homer, shannam, deen, eda, fred, amalda, ilios, ralf, sleuf, dalsin, hicks, brighton, machyua, lara, shiva (Who Cares but youd think fred would be in just off the back of the olwen/reinhardt connection) fe6: alen, lance, barthe, marcus, bors, astolfo, ogier, elffin, douglas, elen, zeiss, garret, yoder, dorothy, trec, noah, dayan, shin, lot, wade (winners all around but dorothy seems reasonably popular. and shin) fe7: oswin, wallace, harken, isadora, lowen, wil, dart, vaida, geitz, renault, athos (definitely some amount of holding back for another FE7 banner, oswin is not necessarily popular but is Known) fe8: forde, franz, kyle, garcia, gilliam, syrene, vanessa, moulder (gently caress the rausten knights i guess) fe9: geoffrey, lucia, bastian, kieran, brom, calill, largo, makalov, devdan, stefan, tauroneo, nasir, janaff, ulki, tormod (mostly characters nobody really cares much about, but Stefan feels like one they're holding back on. i will be very surprised if devdan/danved is ever in in any capacity) fe10: nolan, edward, leonardo, laura, aran, fiona, meg, heather, skrimir, gareth, nealuchi, volug (heather is another very obvious case of 'holding off on a mildly popular character. also just, gently caress the concept of the dawn brigade in its entirety) fe13: vaika, kellam, laurent (i forget laurent exists more than kellam tbh) fe14: reina, yukimura, fuga, hayato, izana, shura, mozu, scarlet, sophie, asugi, hisame, mitama, ignatius, percy (strong showcase for how little people care about half the kids in fates. put rallyman in.) fe16: hanneman, alois, gilbert (old men running the world, a new age)
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Upset that Reina, the only Kinshi Knight in the entire franchise, is not the sole Kinshi Knight in heroes instead of a Hinoka alt.
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Reina lost her chances of being popular when they decided she should be one of the units with arbitrarily no supports despite joining in like literally chapter 10 in birthright and being by all accounts a completely normal character like i at least get why you wouldn't give fuga, mr. "i join in one route only after chapter 23 if you have a hot spring" supports, that's basically a bonus character like the spotpass units from awakening, but Reina???
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Jesus christ i forgot about laurent until you mentioned him.
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I still can't believe they added in Karin from 5 but won't let me roll for my boy Fergus.
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