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Yeah I am very fond of 3H’s cast and narrative but the Slithers are a gaping chest wound on the story in just how absolutely terrible they are. Which is even weirder when they actually do have a reasonable backstory and motive.
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Yeah but they have sick dubstep so who's actually terrible huh?
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the dubstep did more to characterize them than the game did
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ROFL Octopus posted:Soren flirting with Aimee to get the Silver Card is one of my favorite exchanges in the series Absolutely
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They also get God Shattering Star since Nemesis technically would be a Slitherer, or at least a Slitherer experiment so they don't lack in the music department.
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Party Miser posted:I'm surprised by how many people dislike Three Houses. It's still my favorite fire emblem and I'm cautiously eager for Engage. It did a lot of things I enjoyed while playing on casual/normal difficulty. I look forward to another casual friendly game to sink way too many hours in. 130k people are on a sub reddit for fire emblem, if you assume every single one hates fe3h 4 million copies were sold for three houses Small minority is an understatement
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https://twitter.com/RenOrRaven/status/1615380837868109824quote:Fire Emblem Engage is bad at almost everything Three Houses succeeds at, but somehow manages to make up for this through tactical excellence. quote:Herein lies the first, major divergence from Three Houses—characters exist free of any real ideology or perspective. In Three Houses, the Blue Lions run requires Byleth, the game’s own divine protagonist, to navigate the messy racial hierarchy of a monarchy which only recently halted its colonial advances. The Golden Deer asks you to consider if political neutrality and human kindness can coexist in the face of empire. The Black Eagles route attempts to present a revolutionary future, but one that is enforced through conquest. Three Houses, for all of its failures, is a game that asks questions about the world, and how the player feels about it. quote:Fire Emblem Engage is obsessed with the series’ past. It builds itself around the protagonists of previous games, re-uses those game’s most memorable maps, and builds its narrative around referencing the beats of older, better told stories. If the next Fire Emblem game is like this, it will be a disappointment. Engage’s tactics, however, set a new standard for the series. IntelligentSystems managed to perfectly meld mechanics and tone, but the tone they picked was fun, but ultimately empty. If they could manage to apply these same principles to more interesting narrative ends, the next Fire Emblem game would be the series’ best.
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byleth mostly navigated the racial conflicts by pointing to dedue and going 'i mean hes cool' and dedue went 'i am indeed cool' and then racism was over
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the best Final Fantasy is the Saturday Morning Cartoon one which focuses on its mechanics so my hopes are increasing for SMC Fire Emblem
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Mr. Trampoline posted:the best Final Fantasy is the Saturday Morning Cartoon one which focuses on its mechanics so my hopes are increasing for SMC Fire Emblem ff5 is a very good comparison point for this game yeah.
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Mr. Trampoline posted:the best Final Fantasy is the Saturday Morning Cartoon one which focuses on its mechanics so my hopes are increasing for SMC Fire Emblem Mystic Quest?
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3haus did one thing extremely correct that engage did not and that's the simple fact of you get the vast majority of your krew right from the onset, no early game hell of having five idiot babies give me the full SQUAD which is also why the cast is more memorable given that they're, you know. there.
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Endorph posted:the golden deer route asked you to consider if the developers of dynasty tactics 2 were really up to the task of making a fire emblem game with four routes and if reusing the silver snow route almost completely was worth pretending claude was relevant I mostly like how they just gloss over Silver Snow entirely.
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i thought that made the 3h cast way less memorable and distinct tbh. they just came to you in a giant blob. getting characters throughout the game means you can get to know people as they come in and their introductions can express their personalities a bit more. like they're still some of the better characters in the series but mechanics matter too. pent is a pretty bland character but hes super memorable because he pops up and solos an entire desert map and then joins a few maps later and youre super pumped to get that beast on your team.
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That review sounds like what I was expecting but also I’m mostly fine with it. Even if the narrative and cast are bland and bad if it’s a good time on Hard Mode I’ll be happy
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hard mode's really fun. enemies in this game hit like loving pick-up trucks. its not just ignore break that makes knights good, its that theyre the only guys in the game who can survive more than 2-3 combats in an enemy phase. even vander can be killed by a couple axe guys as early as chapter 6.
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The tactics/battles are great. The characters are too, it's just they're mostly like this: It's really light hearted so far even if people are dying. It's very fun I wouldn't worry Endorph posted:hard mode's really fun. enemies in this game hit like loving pick-up trucks. its not just ignore break that makes knights good, its that theyre the only guys in the game who can survive more than 2-3 combats in an enemy phase. even vander can be killed by a couple axe guys as early as chapter 6. Yeah they hit hard af
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Pureauthor posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJCOoTp6v5I drat this person is way too enthusiastic about basic game tutorials
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Endorph posted:hard mode's really fun. enemies in this game hit like loving pick-up trucks. its not just ignore break that makes knights good, its that theyre the only guys in the game who can survive more than 2-3 combats in an enemy phase. even vander can be killed by a couple axe guys as early as chapter 6. This is incredible news and I'm excited for friday
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Endorph posted:i thought that made the 3h cast way less memorable and distinct tbh. they just came to you in a giant blob. getting characters throughout the game means you can get to know people as they come in and their introductions can express their personalities a bit more. like they're still some of the better characters in the series but mechanics matter too. pent is a pretty bland character but hes super memorable because he pops up and solos an entire desert map and then joins a few maps later and youre super pumped to get that beast on your team. We haven’t had a hard enemy recruit in a while and that goes a long way in making a unit memorable. You know Ayra’s a badass because you had to navigate a death puzzle to even recruit her. Jamka’s section of Chapter 1 is hugely contrived to make him look way more powerful than he is for the rest of the game and I’d argue that is the main factor in his popularity.
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Barreft posted:The tactics/battles are great. The characters are too, it's just they're mostly like this: I've been reading some of the mined supports and every single character seems at least a little like some weirdo dork rear end. I'm really down for this right now. Not to say I haven't seen any depth, but it definitely tilts towards goofy in most supports. Vander knits  Goldmary is such a piece of poo poo I love her
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It's poo poo like that that has me torn. What Endorph said about the gameplay is everything I want. But on the other hand, every time someone speaks.
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Eimi posted:It's poo poo like that that has me torn. What Endorph said about the gameplay is everything I want. But on the other hand, every time someone speaks. Turn on japanese voices and skip the text, you can make it through this.
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Eimi posted:It's poo poo like that that has me torn. What Endorph said about the gameplay is everything I want. But on the other hand, every time someone speaks. and i came around on framme and celine and her retainers after doing their supports, and vander's Fine. clanne's always pretty annoying tho and alfred and his retainers feel like they had one personality stretched across the three of them.
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As someone who really enjoyed Awakening, Shadows of Valentia, and Fates, I'm hoping that Engage will evolve on the stuff I liked there. The tactical battles and progression sound great, and the home base stuff sounds very similar to how your little demiplane stronghold in Fates functioned. It would be super cool if the player could build their own little flying island level and then defend it from attackers or attack instanced versions of ones other players had made. The asynchronous multiplayer stuff we had back in the 3DS streetpass days was pretty neat!
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Trust Endorph over me, cause the only FE I played before this was 3H, but I put in over 100 hours and did every branch so it's like a Boss Baby 1 and 2 situation for me
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Endorph posted:the dialog's fine honestly. the divine dragon crew and the firene nobles make a really rough first impression because they're the blandest, nicest and most player worshippy of the lot. but the rest of the cast's decent-good. diamant is cool, the non-retainer characters are all solid, and solm do the 'group of nice people' thing better because they're all way livelier about it. and goldmary's just one of my favorite FE characters, shes hilarious. rosado and hortensia are solid, too. I'll just skip the first few characters because their designs looked pretty bad to begin with and the people from Red Land looked the best anyway. How tolerable is the teal haired pegasus lady, Chloe I think?
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Eimi posted:I'll just skip the first few characters because their designs looked pretty bad to begin with and the people from Red Land looked the best anyway. How tolerable is the teal haired pegasus lady, Chloe I think? I don't think you'll like this game, but we'll see.
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Eimi posted:I'll just skip the first few characters because their designs looked pretty bad to begin with and the people from Red Land looked the best anyway. How tolerable is the teal haired pegasus lady, Chloe I think? This is a bizarre way to look at the game and I’d probably just cut my losses if I were you
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ROFL Octopus posted:This is a bizarre way to look at the game and I’d probably just cut my losses if I were you Especially since you're with them for a very long time, still in my case. I like Etie, she shoots a mean bow and actually has a deep female voice instead of squeaks like most of the others so far. Only 6 hours in though e: Boucheron is supposed to have giantism right? He's like Andre the Giant Barreft fucked around with this message at 00:30 on Jan 18, 2023 |
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if it helps i didnt deploy many of the firene characters either. chloe is okay. nothing especially interesting but she barely mentions food despite her feh intro and i like her supports with celine. heres my ranking of characters based on writing. nothing that wasnt shown in trailers. Endorph fucked around with this message at 00:35 on Jan 18, 2023 |
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ROFL Octopus posted:We haven’t had a hard enemy recruit in a while and that goes a long way in making a unit memorable. You know Ayra’s a badass because you had to navigate a death puzzle to even recruit her. Jamka’s section of Chapter 1 is hugely contrived to make him look way more powerful than he is for the rest of the game and I’d argue that is the main factor in his popularity. I miss enemy recruits a bunch. Hopefully one day they come back.
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The player character jerk off sounds insufferable but whatever, murdering people good so game good and it seems like there is enough likeable characters I’ll live with it
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ROFL Octopus posted:This is a bizarre way to look at the game and I’d probably just cut my losses if I were you Look if the game play is as good as Endorph and other reviews have suggested, I will enjoy it even if I'm bitching the entire time. And the option for Japanese is always there if I just want to not care about what everyone is saying.
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Barreft posted:lots of spoilers in there, even some for me lol
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I'm gonna play on hard and it sounds like I'll probably get my rear end kicked lolEndorph posted:hard mode's really fun. enemies in this game hit like loving pick-up trucks. its not just ignore break that makes knights good, its that theyre the only guys in the game who can survive more than 2-3 combats in an enemy phase. even vander can be killed by a couple axe guys as early as chapter 6. I like that armor knights sound like actually really valuable tanks after kinda ignoring them in most of my 3H runs
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