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Mesadoram posted:That is an awesome chart. A nerf to LFR would be a little heart breaking, but I would understand The chart might actually be one season out of date, but it's a reasonable enough starting point. It doesn't always give the full picture either, because legendary weapons can get things like Frenzy and Triple Tap and Boss Spec that will totally upend their numbers, but it's a good starting point for just visualizing 'what is this gun good at???' Bungie does a pretty good job of creating different types of DPS windows too, so you can have things like Parasite being great for Atraks, or Xenophage being great for Sanctified Mind, or Sleeper being good for Templar
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Paracelsus posted:The patch notes also say they've fixed Fire and Forget kicking like a mule, and that they've increased the drop rate for deepsights in raids and Duality (although not by how much). And I wish they would've said if they brought them all up to the same level, or if DSC still has the uniquely low drop rate...
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itt we learn the SDLC and the shortcuts companies will take to push new product out the door "We'll fix it in post." "But Mr. Chocolate, Post has been begging us to fix it in Pre."
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Heir Apparent is a beast, I loved wowing LFGs by doing 2 mil on Rhulk with it while sitting right in front of his stupid face as he tried to kill me. Less effective without classy restore as a safety net but whack down a well and you're good to go. What I've been loving for damage recently is motherfuckin Wendy. Same issue of low reserves as Xenophage but explosive light + weaken clear means magdumping will whack out crazy damage quicker than linears can. Weirdly good for Riven too. Apparently cascade point is an even bigger DPS increase so I'm excited for that to come back around in the GM cycle so I can get one with that.
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arsenicCatnip posted:Heir Apparent is a beast, I loved wowing LFGs by doing 2 mil on Rhulk with it while sitting right in front of his stupid face as he tried to kill me. Less effective without classy restore as a safety net but whack down a well and you're good to go. I love the Heir Apparent, so I am glad to hear that it does work. Gonna need to try out the Xeno and Heir later on my well warlock.
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Mesadoram posted:I love the Heir Apparent, so I am glad to hear that it does work. Gonna need to try out the Xeno and Heir later on my well warlock. It's a blast. Just be careful about using it in fights where everyone clusters up for DPS cause if you're in the front you will flashbang your team with your arc shield
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https://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/buildcrafting - We’re removing Energy types from mods and armor, giving players more flexibility in crafting their builds. No more switching between Energy types to find the mod you want. - We’re reducing the pressure on Armor Energy by re-tuning armor mod costs and changing Artifact perks to no longer require mod slots. Honestly too much poo poo to to keep copy/pasting But that’s not all. Artifact mods are also being translated to unlockable perks. They will no longer need to be socketed, but rather unlock for the duration of the Season once earned and are passively applied to your loadout.
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arsenicCatnip posted:Heir Apparent is a beast, I loved wowing LFGs by doing 2 mil on Rhulk with it while sitting right in front of his stupid face as he tried to kill me. Less effective without classy restore as a safety net but whack down a well and you're good to go. I got the gambit sniper with extended mag, elemental capacitor and cascade point and it’s p good
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:https://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/buildcrafting Yet another “celebrating an 11 year old for flushing the toilet after using the bathroom” situation but it’s good regardless.
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:https://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/buildcrafting Is bungy feeling okay? Those are awesome and fun changes. I'm used to them making GBS threads on everything I love. I'm not sure I can handle this.
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The mod screen is genius, was super frustrating bouncing between my different armor pieces and realizing I had like 3 HEFs on because I changed an exotic and forgot what I had on. Also interesting that Guardian Ranks are seemingly going to be retroactive, I dig it. ALSO HOLY poo poo, I TALKED ABOUT JUST MAKING IT SO ORBS WERE AN INHERENT PART OF CWL AND CWL MODS JUST GENNED ORBS AGES AGO, I CANT BELIEVE WERE ACTUALLY GETTING THAT
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Actually looking at those changes I’m excited for all the new fuckups and pain points we’ll get to experience
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It's high time I cleaned my vault. As a first pass, is just deleting eveyr weapon that doesnt have a third trait a good idea? There's probably not anything hiding in there without one that's good?
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Man I thought Bungie would be worried about Guardians getting too overpowered but everything in that post makes it sound like the game’s about to get even easier. I’m sure the artifact mods will be on average worse now that they’re all passive but the changes to Champions alone mean GMs will be significantly easier, we were already slapping Voltshot on everything we could.
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I'm thinking they're levelling the playing field so they can make the game harder in different ways that aren't dumb as poo poo like match game
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Pirate Jet posted:Man I thought Bungie would be worried about Guardians getting too overpowered but everything in that post makes it sound like the game’s about to get even easier. I’m sure the artifact mods will be on average worse now that they’re all passive but the changes to Champions alone mean GMs will be significantly easier, we were already slapping Voltshot on everything we could. Never trust a patch note or preview until we get The Numbers Neo-Elemental Wells might give 1/10th the ability energy they currently do, and New Font of Might could be a 5% damage boost
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They fired some rear end in a top hat who wanted D2 to be the grindiest MMO ever, right? And now that there's a new dude running the ship we're getting all these great changes?
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I gotta see this new system in motion because reading that section on Armor Charges had me feeling like the dumbest idiot to ever be stupid
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Lexorin posted:They fired some rear end in a top hat who wanted D2 to be the grindiest MMO ever, right? And now that there's a new dude running the ship we're getting all these great changes? Luke Smith is making the new Bungie game unfortunately.
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Majere posted:well I just was typing a post about getting some artifice armor since I never bothered to get any... quote:What does this mean for Artifice armor’s extra Artifact mod slot? Starting in Lightfall, Artifice armor will have a new unique mod slot that grants three additional points to your character stats like strength, mobility, intellect, etc. This will help you round out your stats as you perfect your builds. So artifice is now the best option for class items, and a minor boost on other armor. So still worth it for all those times I end up with 99 in a stat.
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I missed the artifice part, only artifice armor I have is my bond so that works splendidly. Cannot WAIT for the solstice.
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Paracausal posted:Luke Smith is making the new Bungie game unfortunately.
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:I gotta see this new system in motion because reading that section on Armor Charges had me feeling like the dumbest idiot to ever be stupid As far as I understand it: Elemental wells and CWL are being unified into a single system based around picking up orbs to gain buff stacks. Picking up the orbs is now intrinsic and doesn't require the Taking Charge mod to be slotted. Once you have buff stacks, you can do things roughly similar to what CWL and well mods do today- instantly burn a stack to proc an effect, allow an effect to sustain while slowly burning off stacks, or apply a bonus to your finisher (this no longer costs super). To facilitate this, elemental wells are being removed and most sources of wells are now sources of orbs. They are also keeping the "meta" mods from both CWL and wells (stacks on stacks, time dilation, etc) On top of this, each subclass element can also drop a unique kind of orb that has different effects and will presumably interact with this system somehow
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I feel bad for Luke Smith because by all accounts I’ve heard he seems like a good dude but it’s entirely his own fault that his legacy for this game is sunsetting and the DCV. Just, man, the ship absolutely had to be righted after that, yeesh.
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A Buffer Gay Dude posted:I’m old and don’t want to learn another freaking total revamp tbqh The witness won’t give you a choice, friend.
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That article was written specifically in response to me, a person recently peer pressured into picking up D2 again, complaining about the inefficiency and chaos of mods. Between that and my first Legend LS ever dropping Gyrfalcon’s, I might actually play Lightfall!
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I'm just glad my build will hold up. It might even be better since it cranks out ionic traces. Forbearance ftw
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Dang I'm so hype for this revamp. A whole bunch of stuff I've been wanting for awhile now. Like when they announced the artifacts way back in Shadowkeep or whatever, I assumed it was going to be self contained. Just feels like a lot of good changes to make loadouts something a normal player might puzzle together naturally rather then being told they should just look something up on youtube. Hope improvements to armor stats is next up in the future.
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The changes look good but lol at "you can unlock your loadout slots by progressing through the new thing to grind through" Destiny can only change so much
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Oxyclean posted:Dang I'm so hype for this revamp. A whole bunch of stuff I've been wanting for awhile now. Like when they announced the artifacts way back in Shadowkeep or whatever, I assumed it was going to be self contained. I've barely engaged with any experimentation because it was such a huge pain in the rear end to plan around needing solar arms for mod x and void helm for mod y and 100 in these stats, etc, etc. I'm looking forward to the new system.
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