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Ah, does Decky need to be reinstalled after every OS update? I’ll probably go off the beta channel if that’s the case.
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Baxate posted:This plus you have to restart Steam. Exiting Desktop mode and going into Game mode should do it, but if you're looking at Steam in Desktop mode to confirm they're there after installing in Heroic, they won't show until you restart Steam. I would say having Steam off when you're editing its game list (minus sgboop), is a best practice.
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Why is the G key on my Judge Derek's keyboard look as though it's permanently pressed down on the touchscreen? I've switched to a few other keyboards and it's still there. Is there some feature/utility here?
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Jan 19, 2023 07:08
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Try using the touchpads.
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KozmoNaut posted:Try using the touchpads. Owned
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Ya that should be the same. Decky broke (I'm bets) so I couldn't get direct info
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Someone said Single player Halo MCC works fine now? Can I just straight boot it from the OS or does it still need workarounds? Hard to find any recent info via google it's all from around launch.
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I played some of Halo Reach yesterday and didn’t have any problems. E: except not knowing anything of the story of the Haloverse, trying to make sense of it
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Beastie posted:Why is the G key on my Judge Derek's keyboard look as though it's permanently pressed down on the touchscreen? I think I get this sometimes but I would say when bringing up the virtual keyboard it is initially hovered over rather than pressed down. Goes away when moving the cursor with the touch pad. Doesn't bother me as much as, say, inputs not working on the passcode / unlock screen sometimes.
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veni veni veni posted:Someone said Single player Halo MCC works fine now? Can I just straight boot it from the OS or does it still need workarounds? Hard to find any recent info via google it's all from around launch. You can user after: in your search. I googled: after:2023-01-01 "Halo MCC" + "Steam Deck" In my first result SilentR0b on Reddit says quote:Yes. Not the MP, but Campaigns work OOB. Just choose the disable anti-cheat option at startup, and you'll be fine.
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KozmoNaut posted:*All USB-C docks with video output use DisplayPort internally, even if they only have HDMI. Leaving out the DP plug is silly. I just read an article about this very topic the other day....
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hadji murad posted:I played some of Halo Reach yesterday and didn’t have any problems. There's this guy who's the greatest cook who ever lived named master chef and he fights aliens so good God comes down from heaven and says you have earned a halo
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John Wick of Dogs posted:There's this guy who's the greatest cook who ever lived named master chef and he fights aliens so good God comes down from heaven and says you have earned a halo
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So as someone that is playing a completely vanilla deck I can just buy the halo collection on steam and it’ll “just work” ?
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Here you go! https://www.protondb.com/app/976730
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Bob A Feet posted:So as someone that is playing a completely vanilla deck I can just buy the halo collection on steam and it’ll “just work” ? Yes, for single player. You choose ‘disable anti-cheat’ when launching which disables most multiplayer options, but other than that it runs fine
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Subjunctive posted:Ah, does Decky need to be reinstalled after every OS update? Not always - it depends on what changed in the OS update. Subjunctive posted:I’ll probably go off the beta channel if that’s the case. But it's probably not a good idea to be on the beta channel if you want Decky to be stable. Whenever Valve ships an OS update which breaks Decky compatibility in some way, the beta channel is where it happens first. The Decky developers usually fix the issues before the OS update hits the main release channel. Ima Computer fucked around with this message at 18:15 on Jan 19, 2023 |
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KozmoNaut posted:All USB-C docks with video output use DisplayPort internally, even if they only have HDMI. Leaving out the DP plug is silly.
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Have they said anything about putting MCC multiplayer on the Deck?
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I have a couple of questions about Powertools. I installed it from Decky because I read that it may improve GameCube emulation by disabling SMT. Are there any other emulators, specifically ps2,that would benefit from that? Also, does it make a difference whether I install it from the Decky store or from Emudeck setup? I ask that because in the Decky store it states that it requires root but never asked for my password when I installed it.
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jokes posted:Have they said anything about putting MCC multiplayer on the Deck? A lot of anticheat won’t work properly on proton because they can’t guarantee it’ll stop cheating because of the way proton works so probably not. If Epic can’t even be bothered to even try and put something together to expand the reach of the infinite money machine that is Fortnite I don’t see MS bothering for Halo.
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History Comes Inside! posted:A lot of anticheat won’t work properly on proton because they can’t guarantee it’ll stop cheating because of the way proton works so probably not. 99% of anticheat solutions already work fine on Proton. Not all games have implemented that support yet, but plenty have. Epic put in a non-zero amount of effort to implement Proton-compatible client binaries for Easy Anti Cheat a year and a half ago. The reason Fortnite isn't available on the Steam Deck probably has a lot more to do with Steam (which is the Gaming Mode interface that 99% of Deck users spend all their time in) being a direct competitor to Epic's own launcher and games store. jokes posted:Have they said anything about putting MCC multiplayer on the Deck? The game's developers started the process of enabling EAC Proton support back in September... unsuccessfully. It doesn't look like there's been any update from them since then.
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Anti cheat “works” for a lesser definition of working that doesn’t involve kernel-level protection.
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https://twitter.com/TimSweeneyEpic/status/1490565925648715781 
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Ima Computer posted:Epic put in a non-zero amount of effort to implement Proton-compatible client binaries for Easy Anti Cheat a year and a half ago. The reason Fortnite isn't available on the Steam Deck probably has a lot more to do with Steam (which is the Gaming Mode interface that 99% of Deck users spend all their time in) being a direct competitor to Epic's own launcher and games store.
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Outright admitting a vote of no confidence in your own product like that is quite the take.
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homeless snail posted:Nah that's overly conspiratorial, they say themselves why Fortnite doesn't have Linux support, because they don't believe that the usermode Linux version of EAC actually offers any protection. Which is very silly that they even offer it, until you realize that anticheat is for the most part a b2b scam product anyway. I mean, this doesn't seem that overly conspiratorial https://twitter.com/timsweeneyepic/status/1490841213347540993
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20-30% of cost for setting up your food stand inside my building sounds like opportunity cost to me
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That says the opposite of what the dude I quoted posted. Yeah no poo poo they're not going to put it on the Steam store. Heroic launcher already exists, its not a great burden to play Epic games on Linux or even the Steam Deck. The reason you can't play Fortnite is entirely because EAC doesn't actually work there so they have no interest in flipping the switch.
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homeless snail posted:That says the opposite of what the dude I quoted posted. Yeah no poo poo they're not going to put it on the Steam store. Heroic launcher already exists, its not a great burden to play Epic games on Linux or even the Steam Deck. The reason you can't play Fortnite is entirely because EAC doesn't actually work there so they have no interest in flipping the switch. Tim Sweeney specifically called out the Deck's market share and (rightfully or not) Steam's business model (which a game like fortnite would be able to get favorable terms for, but w/e). Getting an anti-cheat on Linux that would be approximately as effective as EAC is on Windows is a very doable task, Epic isn't investing in it for political reasons moreso than technical ones. I mean, it's their game they can do what they want. But Sweeney is explicit that its mainly because they don't WANT to put it on Steam and Valve Hardware, not the it's not possible.
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Lockback posted:Getting an anti-cheat on Linux that would be approximately as effective as EAC is on Windows is a very doable task
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homeless snail posted:anticheat is for the most part a b2b scam product anyway Tim Sweeny's comments in that Twitter thread are kind of dumb. The situation on Windows isn't really any different - custom ring-0/kernel-level cheats are totally a thing there too. That's why cheating is still so rampant on PC despite the existence of all these invasive anticheat solutions. All anticheat is mostly snake oil. You can't trust code anymore once you release it to the user to run on their own computer. The only thing anticheat does well is to filter out low-level script kiddies. It's an literally an unsolvable problem. The only effective means of combating cheaters is doing so reactively - analyzing the behavior of the player's game client for suspicious patterns after the fact from the server side. And even then, it's a continuous cat-and-mouse game. homeless snail posted:The reason you can't play Fortnite is entirely because EAC doesn't actually work there so they have no interest in flipping the switch. Epic would also need to release an official Linux/SteamDeck Epic Games Store launcher (they would never recommend an unofficial launcher like Heroic) or release the game on Steam (they would never pay the fees)
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Lockback posted:Tim Sweeney specifically called out the Deck's market share and (rightfully or not) Steam's business model (which a game like fortnite would be able to get favorable terms for, but w/e). Getting an anti-cheat on Linux that would be approximately as effective as EAC is on Windows is a very doable task, Epic isn't investing in it for political reasons moreso than technical ones. They don’t have a Linux version of Fortnite because they don’t think EAC works reliably on it. Nothing about that has anything to do with Valve or the Steam Deck or anything else beyond the fact that the Deck runs Linux.
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homeless snail posted:Unless this is an ironic "because anti cheat doesn't work" joke, which I'm fully on board with here btw, then lmao I'm gonna need you to show your work because it absolutely is not unless Epic is prepared to start rolling their own distro. History Comes Inside! posted:They don’t have a Linux version of Fortnite because they don’t think EAC works reliably on it. There are anti-cheat applications on Linux, they can either have a different anti-cheat layer for Linux (which would work about as good as EAC) or EAC has supported Linux for a year now so Epic can either work with them to get whatever requirements they need or (more likely) cut the double standard of needing EAC to do something in Linux that it doesn't do very well in Windows anyway. But they won't because: Ima Computer posted:Epic would also need to release an official Linux/SteamDeck Epic Games Store launcher (they would never recommend an unofficial launcher like Heroic) or release the game on Steam (they would never pay the fees) Which is a completely different thing from there not being a technical path for anti-cheat.
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Here's the punchline: Epic owns EAC. It's what Fortnite uses.
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CBD Corndog posted:Yes, for single player. You choose ‘disable anti-cheat’ when launching which disables most multiplayer options, but other than that it runs fine Does that mean you're stuck to singleplayer, no co-op? I wouldn't mind missing out on the multiplayer stuff outside of custom zombie gamemodes but I only ever found the Halo campaigns fun in co-op. I own the MCC, but being stuck to the Deck for now I probably won't be installing it if I can't co-op. loudog999 posted:I have a couple of questions about Powertools. I installed it from Decky because I read that it may improve GameCube emulation by disabling SMT. Are there any other emulators, specifically ps2,that would benefit from that? Also, does it make a difference whether I install it from the Decky store or from Emudeck setup? I ask that because in the Decky store it states that it requires root but never asked for my password when I installed it. I don't know if PS2 gets any benefit from it, but Yuzu does. Not sure on Ryujinx. As for the install, it's the same if you installed it via EmuDeck or the Decky Store.
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homeless snail posted:Here's the punchline: Epic owns EAC. It's what Fortnite uses. Oh, lol I didn't realize that. I thought EAC was used by a bunch of stuff. That's even worse then, they are cutting their own legs off and then trying to hide behind having no legs.
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homeless snail posted:Here's the punchline: Epic owns EAC. It's what Fortnite uses. No wonder it sucks
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Sounds like they're stuck in Heck. Steam Heck. Ima Computer posted:All anticheat is mostly snake oil. You can't trust code anymore once you release it to the user to run on their own computer. The only thing anticheat does well is to filter out low-level script kiddies. It's an literally an unsolvable problem. Agreed about the broad strokes of the argument but I think it's actually worthwhile to apply a minimal (non-invasive!) amount of protection over things you don't want people messing with. Even if it only filters out the lazy 90% of the population, that's still a lot less messing-with. But the steps they go to try to claim 100% protection are unhealthy.
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