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the thread keeps talking about reclassing anna into mage because of her ridiculous growth rate, so i just have to ask can you get a second seal earlier than chapter 13? because that seems like. a long time to wait.
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yeah you find a few, mostly in chests actually given that they're in chests you probably get one in anna's recruitment chapter, I remember getting one super early.
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Jan 22, 2023 17:28
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They show up in the item shop after chapter 8.
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Jan 22, 2023 17:30
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Gamerofthegame posted:yeah you find a few, mostly in chests cleared it just a second ago and its a master seal in her chapter Which is still welcome as I've started hitting level 10
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Jan 22, 2023 17:31
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I’m having a hard time shaking the instinct to level to 20 before promoting even though I’ve heard that’s the wrong move this time. There’s a tiny voice like “it’s gonna gently caress up your EXP gains, look at Vander” but apparently that’s not true?
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Jan 22, 2023 17:34
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A fire emblem without an avatar would be great. They're either pointless (GBA games) or aggressively bad (byeleth)
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Jan 22, 2023 17:42
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Blaziken386 posted:the thread keeps talking about reclassing anna into mage because of her ridiculous growth rate, so i just have to ask The shop sold 3 after I finished ch8. Edit: Do skirmishes scale? I was thinking about leveling the Bench crew with skirmishes but it's not looking good, theyre all level 12-13 when main mission is level 10 required.
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Dpulex posted:A fire emblem without an avatar would be great. They're either pointless (GBA games) or aggressively bad (byeleth) like, literally any of the past games' lords fill the same role as alear does, how are they legally distinct
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Jan 22, 2023 17:53
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Just cleared chapter 7 and lmao Hortensia, you could have murdered Louis with a Fire spell but you had to go for show with the Engage attack dealing like 10 damage tops lmao. I feel this is where the early game hell starts tampering down. Still refreshing to be pushed into Player Phase instead of letting enemies die to a murder unit. Also I'm crushed into Decision paralysis, not sure if to promote Chloe into Gryphon for S Lances, Wyvern to patch up attack, Celine/Alcryst/his retainers for fun, or Framme for that sweet +3 to STR and BLD (even if the gains suck otherwise). I'm also wondering if future base class recruits will come with extra proficiencies cause otherwise you'd need prepromote Heroes and Mage Knights and etc to have those classes.
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Jan 22, 2023 17:54
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FrickenMoron posted:The shop sold 3 after I finished ch8. they aggressively scale with story progression there is also training skirmishes, which give a blanket additional xp to everyone involved after it's done and explicitly don't kill anyone, and the trial maps you unlock after chapter 10 which do the same
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Jan 22, 2023 17:57
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Harrow posted:I’m having a hard time shaking the instinct to level to 20 before promoting even though I’ve heard that’s the wrong move this time. There’s a tiny voice like “it’s gonna gently caress up your EXP gains, look at Vander” but apparently that’s not true? It seems exp scales off of an internal level count. Promoting, unlike past games (?), doesn't add to that level count this time around so the exp scaling remains unchanged. This means you should promto asap to take advantage of the higher class growths they all get. Vander probably has a high internal level count.
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It's pretty silly that if I want Jade to be a Warrior and she has the proper proficiencies I have to promote her into a General and then second seal into Warrior, because promoting straight into Warrior requires 10 levels in Axe Fighter specifically, for some reason.
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Jan 22, 2023 18:11
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Gamerofthegame posted:there is also training skirmishes, which give a blanket additional xp to everyone involved after it's done and explicitly don't kill anyone wait what the gently caress does the game ever tell you this?
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Jan 22, 2023 18:21
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Zulily Zoetrope posted:wait what the gently caress After ch6 it says "tower of trials opened" at Somniel, but you cant do offline skirmishes until clearing ch11, only online ones.
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Detective No. 27 posted:You people weren’t kidding about Louis/Sigurd. See this is the version of fe4 I make up in my head
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RuBisCO posted:It seems exp scales off of an internal level count. Promoting, unlike past games (?), doesn't add to that level count this time around so the exp scaling remains unchanged. This means you should promto asap to take advantage of the higher class growths they all get. Yeah I read somewhere that Vander's internal level is 15 at the start, which is why he gets such low EXP growth, and it has nothing to do with him being promoted. I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna rip the bandaid off and use these three master seals on my level 11-12 characters.
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Hot drat Tikis Paralogue is a slog, this is more enemies than most chapters combined.
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Yeah, I promoted Alear and Etie and the gains have been extremely helpful. My biggest question is when do you gain an Axe emblem? I want to make someone a Hero and I’ve already got enough Lance users
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Jan 22, 2023 18:39
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I don't know if I trust that promoting early won't screw my exp gains but I might not have a choice, I really need that extra point of movement for chapter 11
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Carlosologist posted:Yeah, I promoted Alear and Etie and the gains have been extremely helpful. My biggest question is when do you gain an Axe emblem? I want to make someone a Hero and I’ve already got enough Lance users Leif at level 2 gives you axe proficiency and you get him around chapter.. 8 or so? Harrow posted:Yeah I read somewhere that Vander's internal level is 15 at the start, which is why he gets such low EXP growth, and it has nothing to do with him being promoted. I'm in the same boat as you, there just aren't enough master seals early and I'm afraid I'll want to replace my promoted units with new guys, but hopefully they'll be prepromotes, I guess!
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I don’t know why people are agonizing over exp gains so much? If promoting lets you hit some kind of benchmark on the map you’re on (surviving another round of combat, killing in one round) it’s probably a good idea to promote.
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ROFL Octopus posted:I don’t know why people are agonizing over exp gains so much? If promoting lets you hit some kind of benchmark on the map you’re on (surviving another round of combat, killing in one round) it’s probably a good idea to promote. It used to be a real bad idea in the old game for a variety of reasons that don't seem to apply this time around.
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Promoting also gives way fewer gains in this game, you're looking at 0-2 stats across the board Generals specifically get kinda screwed because they don't even gain move on promotion.
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Zore posted:Promoting also gives way fewer gains in this game, you're looking at 0-2 stats across the board I thought promoted classes had better growths than the base classes?
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ROFL Octopus posted:I don’t know why people are agonizing over exp gains so much? We all have our own kind of brain rot when it comes to FE  I don't care too much about exp gains or whatever, but it feels wrong to promote early when the characters are still inexperienced in the story, so I only promote after climactic story events for first time playthroughs (so after chapter 11 in this game, beating Gangrel in Awakening, etc.)
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Miftan posted:It used to be a real bad idea in the old game for a variety of reasons that don't seem to apply this time around. Yes, nephenee, make all of your numbers green. all of them. its no longer relevant but the habit is omnipresent
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Yeah honestly between second seals and internal levels (assuming you all are right about that!) it feels like the only thing stopping you from promoting once someone dings 10 is lack of master seals/funds to buy them.
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https://twitter.com/Chris_Dring/status/1617186338587000833 No idea why people still give that much about boxed copies sales only. How many people here bought it digital, cause I sure did.
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Miftan posted:It used to be a real bad idea in the old game for a variety of reasons that don't seem to apply this time around. Tbh it was usually a good idea in the old games too, the information was just conveyed poorly so you’d assume you hosed up when your guy promotes and has 12/25 strength in the stat screen and you see how much you could have gotten instead of realizing your promotion gains/future levels still make you Good Enough. Early promotion wasn’t the mistake, making all stats not cap at 20 like FE5 was 
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It's basically a question of short-long term benefits that depends on the game. Things like promotion gains, available exp, caps, etc. Games like FE6 you wanted to promote earlier since the gains were busted.
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Blaziken386 posted:i liked waiting to promote as long as possible in ye olden games because hitting stat caps was always very satisfying.  sorry Engage... you're at the bottom!! Terper fucked around with this message at 20:27 on Jan 22, 2023 |
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Help the reinforcements dont stop on this Tiki paralogue.
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ROFL Octopus posted:See this is the version of fe4 I make up in my head "Sigurd = Death" isn't made up from FE4, it's just fact.
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Miftan posted:I thought promoted classes had better growths than the base classes? In general they do but thats a long term thing because its like 5-10% better growth total in most classes. You get very little in immediate power from promoting outside of move which is different than past games which tended to give more significant stat bonuses on promotion
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I think promoting sets the stats to a minimum, so it still saves a few units you were unlucky on outside of maddening
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The stat bonuses are smaller but Engage also seems to be built around lower unit stats all around, so they're still significant. You still want to promote asap anyway for the new weapon access and/or extra move. I agree that General specifically doesn't care if they're promoted early or not though
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Gamerofthegame posted:I think promoting sets the stats to a minimum, so it still saves a few units you were unlucky on outside of maddening It's not 100% that, Framme loses Res when promoting to Master Monk according to my game.
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Generals don’t need move when they’ve got Sigurd
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FrickenMoron posted:Help the reinforcements dont stop on this Tiki paralogue. They will eventually, but it takes... a while. That map took me 45 turns lmao
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