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15 | 17.86% |
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Jan 25, 2023 00:30
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Glad to see two Blue Jays making the HOF now put in Stieb
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Jan 25, 2023 00:31
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burn the writers' guild at the stake collectively a real big stake painted to look like a bottle of androstenedione
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Jan 25, 2023 00:31
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Rolen meets all four of JAWS' criteria.
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Jan 25, 2023 00:32
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Why did Jeter quit that ownership group anyways?
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Jan 25, 2023 00:33
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If you go though and look at the history, nearly all the worst HoF inductees were thanks to the various bullshit committees over the years. Baines, Morris, Rizzuto, etc etc. In general the writers have maintained the 60 WAR rule-of-thumb pretty well.
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Jan 25, 2023 00:34
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It's just the hall of guys who were nice to sports writers Like imagine how far up your own rear end you have to be to vote for Rolen but not Manny or Arod
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Jan 25, 2023 00:34
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The voters are nimrods but I'm glad Rolen's in.
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Jan 25, 2023 00:35
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Choosing to be happy Rolen got in instead of upset that other more deserving candidates didn't.
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Jan 25, 2023 00:36
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Looking forward to mcmagic's take on Beltre next year not being worthy.
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Jan 25, 2023 00:37
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Huston Street and Mike Napoli each got a vote 
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Jan 25, 2023 00:39
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habeasdorkus posted:Looking forward to mcmagic's take on Beltre next year not being worthy. Beltre was better than Rolen. He also had 3k hits so he's automatic
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Jan 25, 2023 00:39
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Penisaurus Sex posted:Choosing to be happy Rolen got in instead of upset that other more deserving candidates didn't. You're not doing internet right
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Jan 25, 2023 00:43
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https://twitter.com/MarkBermanFox26/status/1618031057500262402 vote in Billy the Kid you monsters
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Jan 25, 2023 00:44
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This is only Helton's 5th year, he should make it next year. And Wagner's got two more years, he's got a good shot too.
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Jan 25, 2023 00:44
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btw if you want to get mad at the BBWAA, get mad at the people who continue to vote for Omar Vizquel despite not being worthy on the field AND having very serious sexual assault and child abuse charges against him.
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Jan 25, 2023 00:48
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also as an addendum to just generally hating them on principle, Billy Wagner not getting in specifically is inexcusably stupid
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Jan 25, 2023 00:55
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Billy Wagner is HOF-worthy Source: Me as a child, watching his incredible flame-filled Enter Sandman entrance video on the Astrodome Jumbotron
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Jan 25, 2023 00:59
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Rolen isn't a borderline guy and is better than a lot of guys who got in right away
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Jan 25, 2023 01:00
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Spring Break My Heart posted:Rolen isn't a borderline guy and is better than a lot of guys who got in right away It's about the players they *don't* put in
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Jan 25, 2023 01:03
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mcmagic posted:Arod and Manny getting under 40% lol the writers are such shitheads. I wish they would realize that probably a third of their favorite players were probably on steroids. Sometimes i want to believe it's not true but then i look up stats of players from about 1998 to 2004. Guys coming in tenth place in MVP votes would be slam dunk number 1 or 2 in a current year. I'm not trying to really stick up for the players but at some point you have to include the best of the best. That's all i really care about. Don't even get me started about how most pitchers get a pass, except Clemons. Just to be clear i know many writers go by the criteria of the Mitchell report and any positive tests. I can look at the stat lines of my favorite team between 1998 and 2004 and tell you it was a ton of players. Full disclosure, my Favorite team has always been the Braves. Thanks TBS. I go look on baseball reference sometimes at those years and am utterly floored by the stats of guys who i just remember being just above average. This is my favorite team! Edit. If Bonds never gets in it's ridiculous. I never rooted for him but he for sure was the best player i have ever seen live. I have watched baseball since the 70's. chilihead fucked around with this message at 01:13 on Jan 25, 2023 |
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Jan 25, 2023 01:11
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No Safe Word posted:https://twitter.com/MarkBermanFox26/status/1618031057500262402 I loved Blyleven's response to not getting in one year. "Life goes on. The dog still poops on the lawn."
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Jan 25, 2023 01:14
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Helton and Wagner seem like they’ll get in the next two years unless the ballots get crowded with too many “not first time ballot” guys and writers get dumber. Sheffield and Andruw Jones seem like they made good gains too? Probably too far away tp be sure but they seem in the running based on the general rate of gain stuff. I’ve decided the steroid guys are just gonna all get thrown in at once 10-15 years from now by some “You’ve All Paid Your Public Penance So Now We’ll Lump You All Together and Throw You In There” committee.
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Jan 25, 2023 01:24
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I don’t give a poo poo about the HoF. Rolen is whatever. My hottest HoF take is that the guy who left Jeter off the ballot so he would not get an unanimous election is a national hero.
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Jan 25, 2023 01:34
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STAC Goat posted:I’ve decided the steroid guys are just gonna all get thrown in at once 10-15 years from now by some “You’ve All Paid Your Public Penance So Now We’ll Lump You All Together and Throw You In There” committee.
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Jan 25, 2023 01:35
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davecrazy posted:Why did Jeter quit that ownership group anyways?
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Jan 25, 2023 01:41
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Sorry for the knee jerk negative reaction to rolen. 1. He hated my home town. 2. I guess that is understandable it is a poo poo hole 3. I forgot that he was excellent into his mid 30s
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Jan 25, 2023 01:45
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bawfuls posted:I think it will be longer than that, we might have to wait for GenX to age out of influence. Yeah there's a solid core of older voters and committee members who are never going to vote for anybody who's even tacitly connected to roids, let alone somebody who's been popped. Not that it's a strictly generational divide, but the recognition that the steroid era was more complex than the "morally bankrupt players cheated and destroyed the sanctity of the game this whole time how could MLB ever have known" narrative that was popular in the immediate fallout seems to be increasing. Gonna take a while for that to be the consensus though, let alone reach a threshold to get a guy like Bonds into the hall.
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Jan 25, 2023 01:56
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FlamingLiberal posted:No idea. There have been multiple rumors but nothing solid. The standing rumor is that he quit because Sherman wouldn't let him spend money.
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Jan 25, 2023 01:57
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Harold Reynolds on the MLB Network giving LaRussa credit for Rolen's success even though he put more fWAR as a Phillie (Philly?) than as a Cardinal. The collective boner the entire league still has for LaRussa is amazing.
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Jan 25, 2023 02:29
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I like Scott Rolen a lot and I’m happy he made it, but he being the only person elected this year with some of the other names on the ballot is very weird. He’s definitely not the best player on this year’s ballot, not even close.
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Jan 25, 2023 02:30
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davecrazy posted:My hottest HoF take is that the guy who left Jeter off the ballot so he would not get an unanimous election is a national hero. 
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Jan 25, 2023 02:32
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BigDumper posted:I like Scott Rolen a lot and I’m happy he made it, but he being the only person elected this year with some of the other names on the ballot is very weird. He’s definitely not the best player on this year’s ballot, not even close. I mean we’ve basically established that the vote isn’t really about “the best guys on the ballot”. It’s either “first ballot” guys or guys who have to “earn” their way in by years of gradually growing support. It’s dumb but it’s what it is. It’s all silly message votes.
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Jan 25, 2023 02:42
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STAC Goat posted:I mean we’ve basically established that the vote isn’t really about “the best guys on the ballot”. It’s either “first ballot” guys or guys who have to “earn” their way in by years of gradually growing support. It’s dumb but it’s what it is. It’s all silly message votes. Let’s improve the pace of play for the HoF process and give the writers votes for each player. None of this strategic voting junk, you vote yes or no for everyone on the ballot and save everyone some time.
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Jan 25, 2023 02:47
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I still have my Party At Napoli's shirt so I'm glad he got a vote because I totally would have done it too
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Jan 25, 2023 02:59
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davecrazy posted:Why did Jeter quit that ownership group anyways? Ownership sent him a gift basket for his hard work and he got confused.
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Jan 25, 2023 03:03
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davecrazy posted:I don’t give a poo poo about the HoF. Rolen is whatever. i like the theory that it was some guy that didn't realize jeter was on the ballot and submitted a blank one: https://www.reddit.com/r/NYYankees/comments/s689d9/hall_of_fame_voter_nick_canepa_appears_to_be_the/
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Jan 25, 2023 03:51
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Mr. Fix It posted:i like the theory that it was some guy that didn't realize jeter was on the ballot and submitted a blank one: Canepa is a San Diego guy and a complete dinosaur idiot.
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Jan 25, 2023 04:17
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I'd put Helton in before Rolen.
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Jan 25, 2023 04:34
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BigBallChunkyTime posted:I'd put Helton in before Rolen.
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