nhl n/v january 2023: pretty sure your bruce is better than rick sssss

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Cocaine Bear: Nov 4, 2011; ACAB

VOTE1 posted:

I swear for most of these lists they finalise it, then make half a dozen changes to rile up and get discussion. Maybe a top 100 list is naturally variable enough, but the worst thing you could do as a content creator is make one of these lists is make a order nobody disagrees with.

That said I agree McDavid should be higher.

And I say Jamie Benn should be in the top 10. You can follow me on mastadon and rumble.

# ? Jan 26, 2023 03:30

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# ? Jun 3, 2024 18:43

Shinjobi: Jul 10, 2008; Gravy Boat 2k

Top 5 is four Jamie Benns on a cliff, right before a fifth enters the picture

# ? Jan 26, 2023 03:44

The Dirty Burger: Aug 24, 2007; 1st team all star
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2nd degree manslaughter
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fermun posted:

https://twitter.com/cmasisak22/status/1618433766871138304
is Nieto still fast? Avs could use a fast 4th liner

Even if Nieto sucks, Avs gave up a guy that cleared waivers and a 29-year old journeyman d lol.

Merkley is still young too and has the draft pedigree, not sure I see why the Sharks made this trade?

# ? Jan 26, 2023 03:57

ThinkTank: Oct 23, 2007

Matt Nieto is doomed to spend eternity alternating between the Avs and Sharks

# ? Jan 26, 2023 04:02

Eric the Mauve: May 8, 2012; Making you happy for a buck since 199X

Do you think Toews is going to be in the top five or just the top ten

# ? Jan 26, 2023 04:05

Good Soldier Svejk: Jul 5, 2010

Eric the Mauve posted:

Do you think Toews is going to be in the top five or just the top ten

Toews above Malkin is a goddamned travesty and it better not happen

Toews was good for like 5 years

# ? Jan 26, 2023 04:16

fermun: Nov 4, 2009

The only jersey I own is a Matt Nieto Avs one because I once made a bet with a Sharks fan back in January 2018 that the Avs would win the game and that Nieto would score, and if that happened she would have to buy me a Nieto sweater, but if the Sharks won I'd buy her a sweater of her choice (it was her birthday so I made my side of the bet harder) and then it happened.

The Dirty Burger posted:

Even if Nieto sucks, Avs gave up a guy that cleared waivers and a 29-year old journeyman d lol.

Merkley is still young too and has the draft pedigree, not sure I see why the Sharks made this trade?

Kaut was selected 5 picks ahead of Merkley in the 2018 draft, so their draft pedigree is essentially the same at least, though given that forwards usually break into the lineup earlier Merkley has better upside.

# ? Jan 26, 2023 04:22

Spring Break My Heart: Feb 15, 2012

Good Soldier Svejk posted:

Toews above Malkin is a goddamned travesty and it better not happen

Toews was good for like 5 years

Toews was 65th and Malkin was 26th

# ? Jan 26, 2023 04:23

clean ayers act: Aug 13, 2007; How do I shot puck!?

the really baffling thing about the athletic's list is that they're doing it in the middle of the season
you would think it would be prime dog days of summer content to fire off daily and drive traffic. the fact they're doing it now makes me wonder how desperate things are getting

# ? Jan 26, 2023 04:40

pseudodragon: Jun 16, 2007

fermun posted:

The only jersey I own is a Matt Nieto Avs one because I once made a bet with a Sharks fan back in January 2018 that the Avs would win the game and that Nieto would score, and if that happened she would have to buy me a Nieto sweater, but if the Sharks won I'd buy her a sweater of her choice (it was her birthday so I made my side of the bet harder) and then it happened.

Kaut was selected 5 picks ahead of Merkley in the 2018 draft, so their draft pedigree is essentially the same at least, though given that forwards usually break into the lineup earlier Merkley has better upside.

Merkley was also a notorious talented head case so there's the "we can fix him" factor making him more attractive as a trade target.

# ? Jan 26, 2023 04:52

grack: Jan 10, 2012; COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!

One game and one period and Tocchet already looks like he wants to quit as Canucks' head coach

# ? Jan 26, 2023 04:58

Eric the Mauve: May 8, 2012; Making you happy for a buck since 199X

That's just how he always looks whenever he's not on a golf course or in a casino

# ? Jan 26, 2023 05:12

Keith Mars: Nov 28, 2007; Former Sheriff of Balboa County

The Dirty Burger posted:

Even if Nieto sucks, Avs gave up a guy that cleared waivers and a 29-year old journeyman d lol.

Merkley is still young too and has the draft pedigree, not sure I see why the Sharks made this trade?

Merkley requested a trade a few weeks ago after being benched. Two years ago he was disappointed he didn't make the team after camp, then he had an underwhelming year in the AHL. Last year he fixed some offseason conditioning issues, was brought up for a stint and scored his first NHL goal in his first game in front of his family (cool), then had an underwhelming year in the NHL/AHL. This year he's been stashed for yet another underwhelming year in the AHL -- was even removed from the PP. It was the same story every year, we want him to go down to the AHL and dominate, but he never took a step forward. Plays like a slower Karlsson (both skating and processing) with similar defensive warts. Today, his vision and transition play are genuinely upper-tier NHL level. But I have a friend who watches the AHL games and says he never consistently looked super special. He'd hit people with like 5 insane passes on a PP, no one would finish, then he'd disappear for the next few games. Two months ago he mentioned "Merkley, I dunno, I think that experiment is almost over."

Byron Bader still loves him for his otherworldly junior's numbers: https://twitter.com/ByronMBader/status/1572599199283449858?s=20&t=F3inlzN9ivQ1TzDpiaGKHg
Some source of The Athletic had speculated that Merkley's trade value was exactly this, one for one for another underperforming former first rounder. He's an RFA this year, so I don't know how much control the team has left. I think the trade request was the ultimate spark. Probably selling low, but the current regime didn't draft him, he doesn't want to be here, ok.

I'm just pissed Doug Wilson blew so many first round picks on giant d-men who can't play hockey real good but Are Big over the last 20 years, then literally the first time we draft the undersized guy with skill over the big guy (K'Andre Miller was picked next), we miss.

fermun posted:

Kaut was selected 5 picks ahead of Merkley in the 2018 draft, so their draft pedigree is essentially the same at least, though given that forwards usually break into the lineup earlier Merkley has better upside.

Yes, I'd say that's right. Merkley was always high risk, high reward. Kaut's 173 AHL games are a huge red flag to me -- non-fighter NHL forwards do not cook in the AHL nearly that long. Nieto isn't a blazer anymore, but he's above average. His value is on the PK. Sharks have had an elite PK over the last two years despite having average-to-poo poo goaltending, and Nieto is a big part of that. Kind of a who cares from the Sharks end, Avs come out on top by getting a useful UFA PKer who's familiar with the team and the prospect with bigger upside.

# ? Jan 26, 2023 05:20

Ginger Beer Belly: Aug 18, 2010; Grimey Drawer

Holy poo poo Slovakia ... https://youtu.be/PrehDucjHjs

# ? Jan 26, 2023 05:29

Nissin Cup Nudist: Sep 3, 2011; Sleep with one eye open

We're off to Gritty Gritty land

fermun posted:

https://twitter.com/cmasisak22/status/1618433766871138304
is Nieto still fast? Avs could use a fast 4th liner

An actual trade but it's a bunch of nobodies

# ? Jan 26, 2023 05:36

Keith Mars: Nov 28, 2007; Former Sheriff of Balboa County

The simple way she picks up the puck somehow feels slicker than the typical Michigan.

Final words about Merkley, there's flashes of high end talent for sure:
https://twitter.com/SnipeCity420/status/1571348017361620992
https://twitter.com/HockeyDaily365/status/1507919488280375298
The pass to Vlasic in the second clip was no look. But it also shows my problem with him, he'll beat his man but hang onto the puck way too long, it's his go to move and he ends up on the redline killing the play all the time.

# ? Jan 26, 2023 05:46

Powershift: Nov 23, 2009

This is a pretty cool picture

# ? Jan 26, 2023 05:48

xzzy: Mar 5, 2009

Keith Mars posted:

The simple way she picks up the puck somehow feels slicker than the typical Michigan.

Wonder if she picked it up from pavel barber.

https://youtu.be/Gyui99eWKRk

Or whoever pavel barber got it from I guess.

# ? Jan 26, 2023 06:06

Koopa Kid: Aug 21, 2007

Powershift posted:

This is a pretty cool picture

I also like the ice-level shot where you can see the crowd reactions, the face on the woman wearing a Marner jersey on the left side is classic

https://twitter.com/mnmfan76/status/1618446418234191873?s=46&t=xeG06iqcoGyIxOWmvZD87g

# ? Jan 26, 2023 06:13

grack: Jan 10, 2012; COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!

There were "Bruce, there it is chants" at the Canucks' game tonight

The game being played in Seattle

# ? Jan 26, 2023 06:34

Shinjobi: Jul 10, 2008; Gravy Boat 2k

The Stars are comically bad at overtime and thats funny to me

# ? Jan 26, 2023 06:49

ThePeavstenator: Dec 18, 2012; Establish the Buns

grack posted:

There were "Bruce, there it is chants" at the Canucks' game tonight

The game being played in Seattle

I live literally across the street from the arena and people are still chanting it outside right now lmao

# ? Jan 26, 2023 06:53

DO YALL WANT A BOXC: Jul 20, 2010; HAHA! WOOOOOOO WOOO!; Fun Shoe

that Athletic chart is like Skip Bayless poo poo. i think it�s designed to be infuriating. they rated Iginla above Chris Pronger. there�s never been a hockey game played where you would take Jarome Iginla over Chris Pronger.

sakic/yzerman being ahead of McDavid/Messier is similarly insane. they spent the entire Scott Stevens article talking about concussions and wrote nothing about Doug Gilmour and the babysitter. incredible.

Sean McIndoe posted:

Gilmour was traded to the Flames in 1988 under circumstances that were well covered at the time but seem largely forgotten today.

lol what circumstances you hack

# ? Jan 26, 2023 07:23

SilvergunSuperman: Aug 7, 2010

E nm forgot they were at home

# ? Jan 26, 2023 07:32

SilvergunSuperman: Aug 7, 2010

DO YALL WANT A BOXC posted:

lol what circumstances you hack

Lmao, hoooo boy...

# ? Jan 26, 2023 07:34

Matt Zerella: Oct 7, 2002; Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)

https://twitter.com/DaveyUpper/status/1618419805824118785?s=20&t=FCTifrpLBvhYmG5uW8Zgrw

This is pure filth from Kakko. I missed the game because I'm in Italy for work. Looks like the kid line did really well last night?

# ? Jan 26, 2023 08:15

DancingMachine: Aug 12, 2004; He's a dancing machine!

Matty Beniers injured on this dirty hit. Looks like a concussion, hopefully not out long.
https://twitter.com/LachInTheCrease/status/1618462355863769088?t=jnFNWXwSYcUHnEEvnuoaEg&s=19

# ? Jan 26, 2023 08:39

Eric the Mauve: May 8, 2012; Making you happy for a buck since 199X

That guy's never seen the Bertuzzi or McSorley assaults eh?

# ? Jan 26, 2023 11:37

Aye Doc: Jul 19, 2007

https://twitter.com/SportsnetSpec/status/1618056277531430912

here's a good article i saw thanks to my good buddy duke

# ? Jan 26, 2023 13:04

Darude - Adam Sandstorm: Aug 16, 2012

Mark Spector writing something good is the most incredible thing about that article.

# ? Jan 26, 2023 13:13

ThinkTank: Oct 23, 2007

Darude - Adam Sandstorm posted:

Mark Spector writing something good is the most incredible thing about that article.

I was truly blown away. I was fully expecting it to be some hagiography about the tough, manly 80s Oilers like the rest but it was genuinely considerate and thoughtful? He even seemed to suggest that perhaps it was wrong for guys to not speak up in the past. Man I don't know what's happening with this world.

# ? Jan 26, 2023 13:29

Koth: Jul 1, 2005

DancingMachine posted:

Matty Beniers injured on this dirty hit. Looks like a concussion, hopefully not out long.
https://twitter.com/LachInTheCrease/status/1618462355863769088?t=jnFNWXwSYcUHnEEvnuoaEg&s=19

Beniers' hit on Myers didn't even looked pretty soft. I can't tell at all why Myers went after him like that.

# ? Jan 26, 2023 13:30

ThinkTank: Oct 23, 2007

That is the first time I've seen Myers do anything remotely physical

# ? Jan 26, 2023 13:32

ThinkTank: Oct 23, 2007

The Canucks penalty kill this month is 59.4%

# ? Jan 26, 2023 14:24

Blackbelt Bobman: Jul 17, 2004; I don't need friends! I've been
manipulatin' you since the start!
All so I can something,
something X-Blade!

Koth posted:

Beniers' hit on Myers didn't even looked pretty soft. I can't tell at all why Myers went after him like that.

As a guy who has a Myers jersey from his rookie year and watched all his seasons in Buffalo, let me tell you: it�s because he�s a loving idiot.

# ? Jan 26, 2023 14:42

Hand Knit: Oct 24, 2005; Beer Loses more than a game Sunday ...
We lost our Captain, our Teammate, our Friend Kelly Calabro...
Rest in Peace my friend you will be greatly missed..

Ginger Beer Belly posted:

Holy poo poo Slovakia ... https://youtu.be/PrehDucjHjs

According to the closed caption translation there she's only 14, with the tournament being the U18s. TSN put out a whole highlight reel of just her last week.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5LqWyS9ZwQ

# ? Jan 26, 2023 14:59