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Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Ichabod Sexbeast posted:

I have also heard that in Swedish localization of The Muppet Show, he is known as The Norwegian Chef

This gets extremely funny when Swedish fans of the Muppets go to Norway.

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drrockso20
May 6, 2013

Has Not Actually Done Cocaine
And of course on the topic of Ingmar Bergman;


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMCY6kldN2I

Offler
Mar 27, 2010

plainswalker75 posted:

Swedish Meatballs was an extremely popular dish in the 60s-70s in the US and was probably 50% of the things Americans knew about Sweden (the other being Ingmar Bergman), until supplanted by ABBA and the Swedish Bikini Team.

Haha, you just unlocked a memory of my utter confusion when I was constantly asked about our bikini team during my American high school year. I had, of course, never heard of "our" bikini team, nor could I really process what was meant by the words "bikini team". It was probably the most common question I got when people learned that I was Swedish, closely followed by "have you been to Amsterdam?" and "have you been to a rave" for some reason. Yeah, this was in the late 90s, why do you ask?

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

Ichabod Sexbeast posted:

I have also heard that in Swedish localization of The Muppet Show, he is known as The Norwegian Chef

Seems like they shoulda gone with danish chef

Ichabod Sexbeast
Dec 5, 2011

Giving 'em the old razzle-dazzle

Milo and POTUS posted:

Seems like they shoulda gone with danish chef

Nah, children watch that show

Soul Dentist
Mar 17, 2009

Milo and POTUS posted:

Seems like they shoulda gone with danish chef

I think a chef should be able to prepare more than just danishes

Philippe
Aug 9, 2013

(she/her)

Milo and POTUS posted:

Seems like they shoulda gone with danish chef

It's called a pastry chef

Zeniel
Oct 18, 2013

Ghost Leviathan posted:

This gets extremely funny when Swedish fans of the Muppets go to Norway.

I see you are familiar with the standup routines of Adam Hills

Mr. Sunshine
May 15, 2008

This is a scrunt that has been in space too long and become a Lunt (Long Scrunt)

Fun Shoe

Milo and POTUS posted:

Seems like they shoulda gone with danish chef

But then it wouldn't be a joke, it would just be someone speaking danish.

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?
What if I told you Danish... was a joke

Mr. Sunshine
May 15, 2008

This is a scrunt that has been in space too long and become a Lunt (Long Scrunt)

Fun Shoe
No, it's a tragedy.

Samovar
Jun 4, 2011

I'm 😤 not a 🦸🏻‍♂️hero...🧜🏻



Mr. Sunshine posted:

No, it's a tragedy.

Very good.

Cooked Auto
Aug 4, 2007

Ichabod Sexbeast posted:

I have also heard that in Swedish localization of The Muppet Show, he is known as The Norwegian Chef

Don't think I've ever heard that.

Although I have read somewhere that some do think he's speaking Norwegian rather than Swedish as a deflection.

Zopotantor
Feb 24, 2013

...und ist er drin dann lassen wir ihn niemals wieder raus...

the holy poopacy posted:

At no point is there any suggestion that the Swedish Chef is actually preparing Swedish cuisine. The dishes he attempted were generally very basic and mostly chosen for the potential to have something explode, fight back, flail frantically, and incorporate puns or words that sound funny in fake Swedish.

He made chocolate moose that one time though.

Zopotantor
Feb 24, 2013

...und ist er drin dann lassen wir ihn niemals wieder raus...

plainswalker75 posted:

Swedish Meatballs was an extremely popular dish in the 60s-70s in the US and was probably 50% of the things Americans knew about Sweden (the other being Ingmar Bergman), until supplanted by ABBA and the Swedish Bikini Team.

You mean Turkish Köfte.
https://twitter.com/Sweden/status/990223361648275456

Offler
Mar 27, 2010

I think that's a bit of a stretch, unless "based on" just means the entire concept of making round balls of meat. I mean, the most common recipe includes pork in the meatballs, and almost every variant is eaten with lingonberries and potatoes, neither of which were found in the Ottoman empire in the 18th century. Some quick googling about potatoes in the Ottoman Empire lead me to a website with a very Turkish name saying potatoes were only introduced to the country in the 1830s, that's more than a 100 years after Charlie XII got headshoted.
https://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/o...0around%201878.

Phy
Jun 27, 2008



Fun Shoe

Zopotantor posted:

He made chocolate moose that one time though.

Chocolate moose is a North American dish. In Sweden they call it chocolate elk.

Offler
Mar 27, 2010

Phy posted:

Chocolate moose is a North American dish. In Sweden they call it chocolate elk.

That's only when we talk Swenglish, we say "'älg" in our own tounge. Or if we talk about a specific moose, we say "älgen", like in the Ridley Scott movie.

Keru
Aug 2, 2004

'n suddenly there was a terrible roar all around us 'n the sky was full of what looked like 'uge bats, all swooping 'n screeching 'n divin' around the ute.

Ichabod Sexbeast posted:

I have also heard that in Swedish localization of The Muppet Show, he is known as The Norwegian Chef

I've never heard him called anything but 'Svenske Kocken' here, but maybe that's a more recent thing?

FreudianSlippers
Apr 12, 2010

Shooting and Fucking
are the same thing!

Swedes are notoriously self deprecating and have no problem with the Swedish chef as they know this mockery is only a small Karmic recompense for the many atrocities that fuelled the Swedish Golden Age (1611-1721)

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?
Worst of all being Delaware

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

In Sweden they just call him the chef.

Gargamel Gibson
Apr 24, 2014

Offler posted:

I think that's a bit of a stretch, unless "based on" just means the entire concept of making round balls of meat. I mean, the most common recipe includes pork in the meatballs, and almost every variant is eaten with lingonberries and potatoes, neither of which were found in the Ottoman empire in the 18th century. Some quick googling about potatoes in the Ottoman Empire lead me to a website with a very Turkish name saying potatoes were only introduced to the country in the 1830s, that's more than a 100 years after Charlie XII got headshoted.
https://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/o...0around%201878.

No-one said anything about lingonberries or potatoes being brought from Turkey, just meatballs. Calm down.

Red Bones
Aug 9, 2012

"I think he's a bad enough person to stay ghost through his sheer love of child-killing."

3D Megadoodoo posted:

In Sweden they just call him the chef.

Since they can understand what the chef is saying, I heard they actually find him very insightful.

hawowanlawow
Jul 27, 2009

bork bork bork indeed

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

hawowanlawow posted:

bork bork bork indeed

Oh yeah well you're mother!

AvesPKS
Sep 26, 2004

I don't dance unless I'm totally wasted.
Was the Groom of the Stool a groom, or a groomer? Are people who work with horses grooms or groomers?

Soul Dentist
Mar 17, 2009
Neither and yes

Animal-Mother
Feb 14, 2012

RABBIT RABBIT
RABBIT RABBIT

hawowanlawow posted:

bork bork bork indeed

Speaking of Borks, the Muppet Show exists in the same continuity as the World Wrestling Federation:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=entL6RoHEP0

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011





A fun fact about this is that Charles XII fled from a war he was losing against Peter the Great. His host, Ahmed 3rd, then got so sick of him that he sent 4000 soldiers to get rid of him, the only thing that preventing the soldiers from massacring Charles XII and his entourage was the sultan had given strict orders that the king in exile was to be captured alive. Charles XII then spent a year in a prison cell and only decided to return to Sweden when he learned that he was going to be replaced with his sister. During his time in exile he had racked up a huge debt and his debtors went with him to make sure they got paid. Charles XII then disguised himself with a brown wig and fled from the debtors.

the holy poopacy
May 16, 2009

hey! check this out
Fun Shoe

Alhazred posted:

A fun fact about this is that Charles XII fled from a war he was losing against Peter the Great. His host, Ahmed 3rd, then got so sick of him that he sent 4000 soldiers to get rid of him, the only thing that preventing the soldiers from massacring Charles XII and his entourage was the sultan had given strict orders that the king in exile was to be captured alive. Charles XII then spent a year in a prison cell and only decided to return to Sweden when he learned that he was going to be replaced with his sister. During his time in exile he had racked up a huge debt and his debtors went with him to make sure they got paid. Charles XII then disguised himself with a brown wig and fled from the debtors.

Is this what people mean when they say "king poo poo"?

Cool Kids Club Soda
Aug 20, 2010
😎❄️🌃🥤🧋🍹👌💯

Alhazred posted:

A fun fact about this is that Charles XII fled from a war he was losing against Peter the Great. His host, Ahmed 3rd, then got so sick of him that he sent 4000 soldiers to get rid of him, the only thing that preventing the soldiers from massacring Charles XII and his entourage was the sultan had given strict orders that the king in exile was to be captured alive. Charles XII then spent a year in a prison cell and only decided to return to Sweden when he learned that he was going to be replaced with his sister. During his time in exile he had racked up a huge debt and his debtors went with him to make sure they got paid. Charles XII then disguised himself with a brown wig and fled from the debtors.

Fuckin lol that a Swedish person's perfect disguise was a brown wig

Arsenic Lupin
Apr 12, 2012

This particularly rapid💨 unintelligible 😖patter💁 isn't generally heard🧏‍♂️, and if it is🤔, it doesn't matter💁.


plainswalker75 posted:

Swedish Meatballs was an extremely popular dish in the 60s-70s in the US and was probably 50% of the things Americans knew about Sweden (the other being Ingmar Bergman), until supplanted by ABBA and the Swedish Bikini Team.

*cough* I Am Curious (Yellow) and also Blue. Like, we knew that Swedes made (by that time's standards) porn as Fact # 1.

Offler
Mar 27, 2010
These are some scattered thoughts about middle/upper class life in early 20th century U.K. that are rattling around in my brain after re-reading most of Agatha Christie’s mystery novels (at least the ones written before the 1960s)

I bet most people today picture a woman when they hear of a “gold digger”, but in these books it is quite the opposite. In fact, I would say that the gigolo is one of the most common characters in all of Christie’s novels. In one of her earliest books - The Mystery of the Blue Train - as many as three of the suspects are some level of gold diggers. These range from a fake baron scam artist who specializes in wooing women, to the victim’s husband who had clearly married her for her money, to the self-described gigolo who is happily married to a woman twice his age.

There is a surprising amount of drug use in Christie’s books, at least if you think of illegal drug use as a fairly modern phenomenon. This isn’t just old fashioned morphine pills bought at the pharmacy either, already in the 20s you have people snorting both coke and heroin in the books. A funny detail in one of the earliest books is Poirot concluding that an unknown drug user must be American or has lived in America since sniffing heroin through a straw is apparently the American way of doing the drug.
For some reason, drug use is often talked about as a mostly female vice in several of the books. For example, the narrator of Murder in Mesopotamia thinks of herself as someone who is good at spotting a secret drug user, which she can apparently do before the user’s husband has even noticed that anything is wrong with his wife.

Speaking of crimes mostly thought of as women’s crimes - there is also the dreaded “anonymous letter”. This is something that pops up in several stories, always referred to with the same two words. After seeing how characters react to these letters, I started mentally inserting a musical sting any time I read the words “anonymous letter”, that’s how feared these things are in the books. These letters are basically hate mail, usually accusing the receiver of all manner of things, especially goings on of a sexual nature. According to the police in at least two of the books, these kinds of letters were fairly common, but since people were so afraid of even the hint of scandal most people never told anyone they received them. Apparently, every single time the police did crack who was writing these letters, they’d always find a middle aged or elderly woman as the culprit, someone most people couldn’t imagine even knowing about the kinds of explicit things they were writing about.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
I feel like there's some relation to the prancing, scheming pantomine villain, of the Dick Dastardly type, trying to trick, blackmail or force an heiress or widow into marrying him to get his hands on her money/property.

Drug use seen as a primarily female vice I can imagine being a thing for bored housewives, there's been some jokes/theories about how the feminist movement really got going about when you couldn't get cocaine over the counter anymore. And obligatory Sherlock Holmes reference.

Sweevo
Nov 8, 2007

i sometimes throw cables away

i mean straight into the bin without spending 10+ years in the box of might-come-in-handy-someday first

im a fucking monster

Offler posted:

I bet most people today picture a woman when they hear of a “gold digger”, but in these books it is quite the opposite. In fact, I would say that the gigolo is one of the most common characters in all of Christie’s novels. In one of her earliest books - The Mystery of the Blue Train - as many as three of the suspects are some level of gold diggers. These range from a fake baron scam artist who specializes in wooing women, to the victim’s husband who had clearly married her for her money, to the self-described gigolo who is happily married to a woman twice his age.

"Horny Widow" was a common character trope in older literature. The idea was that because they'd been married and experienced sex then as soon as they couldn't have it any more they became insatiable and ready to jump into bed with anyone. Any woman whose husband was dead, away for extended periods, or just couldn't perform somehow must be either a lust-crazed cougar on the prowl for any dick she can get, or else was an easy target for smooth-talking cads. So books all through the 1800s and into the early 1900s are full of 40-something widows seducing or being seduced by handsome younger men.

Sweevo has a new favorite as of 20:10 on Feb 3, 2023

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

Has Not Actually Done Cocaine

Ghost Leviathan posted:

I feel like there's some relation to the prancing, scheming pantomine villain, of the Dick Dastardly type, trying to trick, blackmail or force an heiress or widow into marrying him to get his hands on her money/property.

Drug use seen as a primarily female vice I can imagine being a thing for bored housewives, there's been some jokes/theories about how the feminist movement really got going about when you couldn't get cocaine over the counter anymore. And obligatory Sherlock Holmes reference.

I mean once that happened Housewives mostly just switched over to sleeping pills or "diet pills" and of course lots of booze

Samovar
Jun 4, 2011

I'm 😤 not a 🦸🏻‍♂️hero...🧜🏻



drrockso20 posted:

I mean once that happened Housewives mostly just switched over to sleeping pills or "diet pills" and of course lots of booze

Valium was de rigeur in Scotland.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Samovar posted:

Valium was de rigeur in Scotland.

What about Australia?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOGRXhb5noQ&t=2248s

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Offler
Mar 27, 2010

Samovar posted:

Valium was de rigeur in Scotland.

I think it was something similar in Sweden, usually just called "nervtabletter" - (nerv pills).

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