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spankmeister posted:A short Dutch video (with Dutch subtitles only unfortunately) about a Leopard 2 training simulator center. Human loaders are probably the biggest adaptation tbh
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_ZPb0sBcLs - Russian copium machine calls Leopards "toothless cats"
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Dante posted:it includes rigorous training of both russian language and culture (though I think they did alternated some years for arabic due to afghanistan). I may have spotted why the West didn’t defeat the Taliban. "We’ve intercepted all these calls but they’re all just speaking in code sir! It sounds nothing like the Arabic from my years of intensive training!". (Yeah I know Al Qaeda was using Arabic.)
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Confirmation that the UA at officer level have been getting tactical training for a while. https://inews.co.uk/news/ukrainian-officers-tactical-tank-training-uk-british-army-commander-2110940
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Szarrukin posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_ZPb0sBcLs - Russian copium machine calls Leopards "toothless cats" If part of the problem is that Russian leader(s) are believing the propaganda, the unintended (hilarious and awesome) side effect is the slow boil continues.
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There was a great map of Russian casualties that was doing the rounds last May, this: Has anyone seen a more recent version of it? I'd be very curious to see how their casualties have developed in the intervening 8 months.
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Paracausal posted:There are thermal and other specialist satellites that don't just collect visible spectrum light Libluini posted:Leo-2s (or at least some test models) can use it, but the one time the Bundeswehr tried testing them, it caused a huge stink and media scandal, as using DU for military applications is highly controversial in Germany: Using it is seen on the same level as committing war crimes. The public really does not like that stuff. evil_bunnY fucked around with this message at 19:19 on Jan 27, 2023 |
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Blut posted:There was a great map of Russian casualties that was doing the rounds last May, this: BBC Russia and Mediazona each have their own non-overlapping data project, check them out.
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Blut posted:There was a great map of Russian casualties that was doing the rounds last May, this: See, this is actually another genius move by Putin to make use of the famous martial abilities of Mongols by sending the poor sons of impoverished Buryats to die in a conflict that has basically nothing to do with them in a place further away from their home land than the entire width of the Contiguous United States.
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cinci zoo sniper posted:BBC Russia and Mediazona each have their own non-overlapping data project, check them out. Ah interesting, thanks, this is it I'm guessing? https://en.zona.media/article/2022/05/20/casualties_eng They have a geographic map of the casualties by province about halfway down which is useful, its not per capita thought unfortunately so a bit less easy to digest.
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Blut posted:Ah interesting, thanks, this is it I'm guessing? Yeah. Seems I've misremembered that they're not doing the big one jointly – they had some non-overlapping work regarding the identification of Makiivka casualties. As for the lack of per-capita numbers, the objective here, especially originally, was identification of missing people Russian families deem missing, for which it's not too important to know the normalized casualty rate.
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https://twitter.com/Mylovanov/status/1618725909552570373 Interesting and short thread about corruption in Ukraine after 2014. Also  :https://twitter.com/Mylovanov/status/1618730890565423105
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Those are just lies...plain and simple. Ukraine was declared the 4th most corrupt nation on Earth, according to U.N. classification and just before the special operation started by the Russian Federation. To add on that, just look at all the military hardware (gently offered by the foolish western nations) smuggled from Ukraine to terrorists based in Africa or the corruption scandal few days ago admitted by the comedian actor Zelensky. So anyone who tries to picture Ukraine as a pristine democracy is just lyin' to you, like this guy Mylovanov, and you should laugh at his face. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Knightsoul posted:To add on that, just look at all the military hardware (gently offered by the foolish western nations) smuggled from Ukraine to terrorists based in Africa or the corruption scandal few days ago admitted by the comedian actor Zelensky. It would help, my esteemed internet friend who espouses only truth, if you provided a citation for your claims.
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Knightsoul posted:Those are just lies...plain and simple. Cool, prove it.
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Knightsoul posted:Those are just lies...plain and simple. Brother can you spare a citation for any of this?
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would definitely appreciate some clarity on the u.n. classification being referred to, it doesn't seem like you're referencing the corruption perception index or any of the other lists that pop up with a quick google search, and going through the u.n. odc publications isn't turning up anything that looks like a list or index
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:Brother can you spare a citation for any of this? I'm still eager to see an explanation how Ukraine (a two hour flight from Italy) is a mythical far eastern land removed from any consideration or consequence.
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:Brother can you spare a citation for any of this?
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Budzilla posted:I couldn't find anything about a UN study on the most corrupt nations let alone Ukraine ranked number 4. It not exactly a secret that Ukraine has major corruption problems, it is probably the most corrupt country in Europe but it wouldn't rank in the top 10 by a long shot. Close, second. You will never guess who is number one. It's exactly who you think it is
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Knightsoul posted:Those are just lies...plain and simple. Lol, lmao. Good one. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Like, corruption is an issue everywhere that we need to address, and I have no doubt that Ukraine had some shady fucks in power leveraging their positions to make money and gently caress people over. But 'corruption' isn't a reason to invade an independent nation, commit war crimes, call them all Nazis and try to eliminate their culture entirely. It's a false equivalence argument trying to give a pretext for Russia's many crimes in service of Putin's imperialist ambitions. We can debate the scale of their corruption and what we should do to combat it, but that should come a distant place behind 'ensuring they exist as a country'.
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Tbh I fully expected to have seen diverted weapons systems from Ukraine turning up all over the place and it's wild to me that so little of it has happened. Normally weapons just get around. It does make sense insofar as it's a really, really bad time to get caught smuggling weapons out of Ukraine.
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Herstory Begins Now posted:Tbh I fully expected to have seen diverted weapons systems from Ukraine turning up all over the place and it's wild to me that so little of it has happened. Normally weapons just get around. There was a series of two, I think, very good deep dive articles in English linked in here at some point not too long ago about internal corruption in the army. It did seem like some poo poo was sold off/stolen from soldiers/mafia'd away. I think it included a former Polish gangster. Sadly I can't remember where the articles were published but I'm sure someone else does. At any rate, it seems like it was mostly small arms and supporting items rather than, you know, a warship or a tank. E: Found it! Part 1 https://kyivindependent.com/investi...hips-misconduct Part 2 https://kyivindependent.com/investigations/investigation-international-legion-misappropriation People who haven't read it really should, it's an excellent investigative piece of journalism. TheRat fucked around with this message at 06:18 on Jan 28, 2023 |
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Yeah it's a good piece, I remember when it came out we talked about it in here. What's particularly curious is that the stuff hasn't been turning up overseas.
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Herstory Begins Now posted:Yeah it's a good piece, I remember when it came out we talked about it in here. What's particularly curious is that the stuff hasn't been turning up overseas. I mean arms dealers sell where the demand is, it's just as likely they are selling the arms back to other units in the Ukrainian military. Would definitely be more cost effective than shipping those arms to another part of the world.
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Herstory Begins Now posted:Tbh I fully expected to have seen diverted weapons systems from Ukraine turning up all over the place and it's wild to me that so little of it has happened. Normally weapons just get around. I've looked for evidence that military aid in kind to Ukraine has shown up in Africa. I couldn't find any. Sources welcome, but otherwise LMFAO.
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mllaneza posted:I've looked for evidence that military aid in kind to Ukraine has shown up in Africa. I couldn't find any. Sources welcome, but otherwise LMFAO. Yeah same, I've seen literally nothing.
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It's probably going to be a fairly major concern after the war is over but I think there are waaaay too many eyes on the shipments right now to warrant the risk of skimming from them and reselling, especially because you'd probably be shot.
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Knightsoul posted:Those are just lies...plain and simple. Foolish west is propping up actor drug addict Nazi Zelensky and AZOV BATTALION...simple truth!!! Like using "special operation" makes this a 90% chance that it's a guy paid to post here, but there are legitimate people as stupid as this (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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J.A.B.C. posted:Like, corruption is an issue everywhere that we need to address, and I have no doubt that Ukraine had some shady fucks in power leveraging their positions to make money and gently caress people over. It's ironic that the invasion has given zelenskyy so much political clout that he seems to be able to push through anti corruption reforms fairly easily. It's normally incredibly difficult to get the institutions in place before the corrupt power structure is able to get rid of you. Ukraine is really lucky to have someone willing to take this on at a time when it seems genuinely possible. https://mobile.twitter.com/ChristopherJM/status/1619247182506508288
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Chalks posted:It's ironic that the invasion has given zelenskyy so much political clout that he seems to be able to push through anti corruption reforms fairly easily. It's normally incredibly difficult to get the institutions in place before the corrupt power structure is able to get rid of you. Ukraine is really lucky to have someone willing to take this on at a time when it seems genuinely possible. EU membership process is the unsung big guns of this situation. For all the apparent goofiness of Brussels, they’re not even tangentially blind, and quite a bit about the acquis is just building trust mechanisms all across the board.
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Herstory Begins Now posted:Tbh I fully expected to have seen diverted weapons systems from Ukraine turning up all over the place and it's wild to me that so little of it has happened. Normally weapons just get around. I saw some tweets that weapons smuggling is indeed happening, but in Russia. Couldn't find very reliable sources about it just now though but people were saying various random criminals in Russia now have much easier access to weapons, which seems plausible. That could be yet another way this war damages the Russian economy and society
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Oryx documented another four M777 155mm howitzers taken out of action; taking the documented numbers to 30 destroyed and 6 damaged, out of ~150 donated. Periodically video from Lancent loitering munitions targetting them is showing up on twitter. Ukraine has praised the M777 so I wonder if they've become the primary goal for lancet operators? (HIMARS excepted) It's got to be concerning at this point. Even the US only have so many to donate and they aren't currently manufactured. Despite being donated in similar numbers, there's only been a single L118/M101 documented as lost, and that was from a failure. I wonder how the anti-UAV problem will be solved. NATO tech over the last few decades has definitely tended towards Wunderwaffes in small numbers. but this problem definitely needs something that is going to be affordable enough to produce and maintain is large quantities.
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Pablo Bluth posted:Oryx documented another four M777 155mm howitzers taken out of action; taking the documented numbers to 30 destroyed and 6 damaged, out of ~150 donated. Periodically video from Lancent loitering munitions targetting them is showing up on twitter. Ukraine has praised the M777 so I wonder if they've become the primary goal for lancet operators? (HIMARS excepted) It's got to be concerning at this point. Even the US only have so many to donate and they aren't currently manufactured. Despite being donated in similar numbers, there's only been a single L118/M101 documented as lost, and that was from a failure. Lancets seem to be the primary means of targeting Ukrainian artillery period, and there are considerably loftier targets than M777 - PzH.2000, Krabs, and all the other self-propelled artillery they have. Ukraine did also get some bespoke “anti-drone guns”, but overall this problem seems to be something that’ll get solved with making fancier cannon AA (whatever that German thing Rheinmetall showed off was) and just slapping remote weapons stations with 20-40mm guns onto everything.
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