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Arquinsiel posted:You can run a native-American themed gang in Necromunda that's a racist pun based around making clothes out of the skins of giant rats. They can drop the native American theme like they dropped the the Redemptionists theme. Hunter gatherers subsisting on rats in the under-under-hive is a good schtick
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Yvonmukluk posted:I don't think they're still officially supported by GW in the new edition any more, at least.  War and Pieces posted:They can drop the native American theme like they dropped the the Redemptionists theme. Hunter gatherers subsisting on rats in the under-under-hive is a good schtick
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Arquinsiel posted:Scabs is one, and they're still selling a fleshtone named after them so... They don't exist in the current edition of necromunda. No models or rules AFAIK. Closest things are the rat themed units in Cawdor I guess?  quote:Within the Redemption, the worship of false idols is a grievous heresy, and the word-keepers are swift to punish those who see the divine in sanctioned places. This of course does not stop members of Clan Cawdor from making effigies to the God-Emperor from hive detritus or building shrines beneath particularly auspicious looking gunk-stains. Then there are men like Rattus Tatterskin who hear the Emperor's voice in the incessant squeaking of his rats. Improbable Lobster fucked around with this message at 04:11 on Jan 29, 2023 |
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War and Pieces posted:They can drop the native American theme like they dropped the the Redemptionists theme. Hunter gatherers subsisting on rats in the under-under-hive is a good schtick  Redemptionists are a subfaftion of House Cawdor and don't have pointed hoods anymore at least 
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House Cawdor minis look rad and I really do think the pointed hood thing was more a Europeans not thinking about our backwater racist idiots enough than anything else.
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D-Pad posted:I don't know all the details but GW did some kind of retconning where chaos undivided isn't really a thing anymore but also perturabo and lorgar weren't subsequently aligned with any of the four so I'm not sure exactly how it works. That confusion about their nature seems to me to give them a lot of potential for involvement with new lore. And they're the only two, unless Alpharius or Omegon is somehow still around, that we have no clue what they're doing even in general terms since they're unaligned. Deptfordx posted:Perturabo, rather than Vashtorr being the weaponsmith of Chaos and trying to bootstrap himself into 'Chaos God of the Dark Mechanicus' would have made a lot of sense. It really would have! Maybe he'll be involved with this faction.
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If a Chapter is mentioned only a single time in a single 2019 codex, that still makes it canonical for the purpose of the Black Library submission event, right? 
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MMAgCh posted:If a Chapter is mentioned only a single time in a single 2019 codex, that still makes it canonical for the purpose of the Black Library submission event, right? I'd allow it.
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Just finished Mark of Faith by Rachel Harrison. The best way I can describe it is that it's basically taking 40k as serious and straight as you can. Complete with "I did nothing actually wrong, but feel I lost faith for half a second as a Sister of Battle, therefore I am putting myself in the Sisters Repentia". Don't get me wrong, it's a competent book and the characters have their motivations, but it's that sense that none of the main characters are having fun at any points in their lives. They only want to "Serve and be of service" as they say in John Wick. The closest they get to their characters actually feeling like mortals (I guess that's the best way to put it) is that there's an implied relationship between the Inquisitor and one of her followers.
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Inspector_666 posted:House Cawdor minis look rad and I really do think the pointed hood thing was more a Europeans not thinking about our backwater racist idiots enough than anything else. Capirotes can look very cool and it's loving annoying that people look at poo poo like Blasphemous and go "video game character have KKK hood??" but it's probably a fight one is bound to lose.
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Inspector_666 posted:All I read for like two straight years was BL stuff, almost all 40k (I did a decent amount of HH early on it) and yeah, it stuck out. The characterization and dialog were just...well, like I said, I forced myself to finish it. Who are some of your favorite BL authors? I’ve pretty much been on the same journey and Fehervari to me was a breath of fresh air. I could smell that drat jungle.
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Deptfordx posted:Perturabo, rather than Vashtorr being the weaponsmith of Chaos and trying to bootstrap himself into 'Chaos God of the Dark Mechanicus' would have made a lot of sense. Isn't his thing less innovation and more innate knowledge and skill?
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Good grief, Forgotten Sons in Age of Darkness is a loving mess. Is this Nick Kyme in general?
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I read Fire Caste as well and yeah, it was a real slog to get through - like the prose was really hard to parse and the author was being obtuse and incomprehensible for the sake of it at the expense of a coherent storyline . Also read one of the Angels Penitent stories and didn't find it much better, though being a short story it was easier to get through.
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Calax posted:Just finished Mark of Faith by Rachel Harrison. The best way I can describe it is that it's basically taking 40k as serious and straight as you can. Feels like that describes her stuff in a nutshell, Honorbound had a very similar feeling to, and her short story in Sabbat War was also kinda the same. Finished that anthology yesterday, my biggest surprise was Abnett using the word "tits" in a sentence. Admittedly it was for Zhukova talking about how others viewed her and her accomplishments, but the usage surprised me since I'm used to the books being kinda clean and straight laced in a way.
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Black Griffon posted:Good grief, Forgotten Sons in Age of Darkness is a loving mess. Is this Nick Kyme in general? Yes
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Cooked Auto posted:Feels like that describes her stuff in a nutshell, Honorbound had a very similar feeling to, and her short story in Sabbat War was also kinda the same. Officer tits: let's be precise here!
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Improbable Lobster posted:They don't exist in the current edition of necromunda. No models or rules AFAIK. Closest things are the rat themed units in Cawdor I guess? Inspector_666 posted:House Cawdor minis look rad and I really do think the pointed hood thing was more a Europeans not thinking about our backwater racist idiots enough than anything else.
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Gooses and Geeses posted:Officer tits: let's be precise here! Which is exactly what she is complaining about.  https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/01/29/sunday-preview-get-mad-as-hell-and-fight-the-entire-galaxy Do you like blood? Do you like taking skulls? Then next week's pre-orders are just for you! First up we have Angron: The Red Angel by David Guymer. Available in both Special Edition.  But also regular hardback, audio and ebook.  A book that GW technically already spoiled last week in a lore dump about Angron. Keeping up with the theme we also have Renegades of the Long War, an anthology featuring; Lucius: The Faultless Blade and Lucius: Pride and Fall by Ian St. Martin, Khârn: Eater of Worlds by Anthony Reynolds, ons of the Hydra by Rob Sanders.  For those who want to be scared there is Unholy: Tales of Horror and Woe from the Imperium. An anthology that collects collects The Oubliette by J C Stearns, Sepulturum by Nick Kyme, The Deacon of Wounds by David Annandale, and The Bookkeeper’s Skull by Justin D Hill.  For those who care adventures in the days of (warhammer) yore, there is Blackhearts: The Omnibus by Nathan Long. 
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I'm sure the capirote look was supposed to be more Spanish penitent than Klansy Kousinfucker, but oh well.
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Black Griffon posted:Capirotes can look very cool and it's loving annoying that people look at poo poo like Blasphemous and go "video game character have KKK hood??" but it's probably a fight one is bound to lose. Oh yeah, killing that look for the mini is the right call, I just don't think it was GW trying to be edgy rather than using a more local vernacular that doesn't translate at all. Miguel Prado posted:Who are some of your favorite BL authors? The usual names are my favorites, but I can try to write up an actual critique later when I'm not on my phone. My taste in books is also pretty lowbrow in general.
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The Demilich posted:I'm sure the capirote look was supposed to be more Spanish penitent than Klansy Kousinfucker, but oh well. It is unfortunate that the worst types of scum on earth decided to adopt it
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Inspector_666 posted:Oh yeah, killing that look for the mini is the right call, I just don't think it was GW trying to be edgy rather than using a more local vernacular that doesn't translate at all. Oh yeah I totally agree. The blame lies with ignorant dipshits and the unfortunate weight of history. Edit: not that the catholic church is like... uh yeah you know that's a discussion for another day.
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Angron needs to stop taking axe lessons from Skarbrand. Stop choking up on the axe so much.
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Arc Hammer posted:Angron needs to stop taking axe lessons from Skarbrand. Stop choking up on the axe so much. nah its like how figurine spears are always really short and stumpy for spears cuz they break off otherwise
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Hello! Popping in from the sci-fi fantasy thread. I'm in a military sci-fi mood and want to read more Warhammer 40k stuff. What is the best 40k fiction with an action focus from the last five years? Horror is also very good, but I'm in a big military / shoot-shoot type mood. Now here's the catch: I already own a fair amount of 40k stuff. Here are some random photos of stuff I've got downstairs, not counting what I'm already reading (Forges of Mars, Gaunt's Ghosts again) or digital stuff:    So I'm mostly looking for the best of the recent stuff that I haven't run into yet. And I've read the OP! Bonus round: some years back I read a space marine novel about a siege between... I think it was the imperial guard and the yellow fist marines, versus the chaos marines and their chaotic friends. It went poorly for everyone, and was a fun read. The thing is, I can't remember its title or author. Could someone ID it for me?
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StrixNebulosa posted:
Could be Storm of Iron by Graham McNeill. Very siege-y, the chaos dudes use medieval (or is it early modern?) tactics with layers of trenches and siege machines etc.
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StrixNebulosa posted:What is the best 40k fiction with an action focus from the last five years? Horror is also very good, but I'm in a big military / shoot-shoot type mood. Check out Apocalypse by Josh Reynolds. A combined force of Imperial Fists, Raven Guard and White Scars defend a system from the Word Bearers.
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Chemtrailologist posted:Check out Apocalypse by Josh Reynolds. That's a goodun
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Baneblade and Shadowsword by Guy Haley were my proper introductions to the present-day setting. I've also nabbed the tank book Steel Tread by Andy Clark, though I haven't opened it.
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Syncopated posted:Could be Storm of Iron by Graham McNeill. Very siege-y, the chaos dudes use medieval (or is it early modern?) tactics with layers of trenches and siege machines etc. Black Griffon posted:Any of this look familiar Strix? That! That's it! Thank you so much!
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Finished Pariah and moved on to Penitent. For a book subtitled Ravenor vs Eisenhorn, it needed more of both those characters.
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Calax posted:Finished Pariah and moved on to Penitent. Penitent has the two have the mother of all arguments, so you're in for a treat.
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Z the IVth posted:I read Fire Caste as well and yeah, it was a real slog to get through - like the prose was really hard to parse and the author was being obtuse and incomprehensible for the sake of it at the expense of a coherent storyline . Also read one of the Angels Penitent stories and didn't find it much better, though being a short story it was easier to get through. i kinda hate how no one can really write a good tau story it seems because no one is really sure how they want them potrayed. if i wrote the tau, id probably make them the good guys of the faction but like realtically lovely, like a caste system version of the federation mixed with a bit of covenant.. a pretty good society to live it for average person but it has alot of pit falls with the caste system and eitherial political bullshit and overly eager military who want to do big "they will welcome us as liberators" poo poo. plus how alot of the client races who were brought in were either lied to degree or forced into complience under subtle threats. the central goverment is strong but it has a bunch of possible fracture points. like the eitherials would still be the leaders but it would be less "pheremones etc control" and more thousands of years of entrencthed power and such. Dapper_Swindler fucked around with this message at 02:51 on Jan 30, 2023 |
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StrixNebulosa posted:
The Urdesh series has some fantastic action scenes, including one of the very best one on one fights in Black Library history in the second one. You also get to see an Imperial Saint cut loose with the full Grace of the Emperor. Urdesh: The Serpent and the Saint Urdesh: The Magister and the Martyr These are spinoffs from the Gaunt's Ghosts series (and The Iron Snakes) by Dan Abnett. Matt Farrer can write good material, these are highly regarded. They aren't bolter porn, they're bolter erotica.
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Z the IVth posted:I read Fire Caste as well and yeah, it was a real slog to get through - like the prose was really hard to parse and the author was being obtuse and incomprehensible for the sake of it at the expense of a coherent storyline . Also read one of the Angels Penitent stories and didn't find it much better, though being a short story it was easier to get through. The prose is very dreamlike, prone to metaphor and intentionally obscure at times. I totally understand it not connecting with people but I enjoyed it and the other books by Fehervari immensely.
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mllaneza posted:The Urdesh series has some fantastic action scenes, including one of the very best one on one fights in Black Library history in the second one.
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