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The one with the buttons probates! When the one with the buttons gets banned, the one behind him takes the buttons and probates!
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# ? Feb 1, 2023 09:10 |
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# ? May 25, 2024 14:29 |
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I'm gonna be the fun police and suggest we not go overboard riffing on fatherboxx the IK, thanks. edit: fatherboxx and potentially another new IK can comment, if they wish. Please give them some time to decide how they want to approach things, they may want to do things slightly differently or just stick to what cinci's been doing, who knows.
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# ? Feb 1, 2023 09:10 |
Vincent Van Goatse posted:It'd be bleakly thread-appropriate if he woke up and found himself with mod buttons. this was literally how people found out they were a mod on this site for . . . years
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# ? Feb 1, 2023 09:11 |
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Fritz the Horse posted:I'm gonna be the fun police and suggest we not go overboard riffing on fatherboxx the IK, thanks. Fair. We have to conserve our riffs until Scholtz agrees to supply more.
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# ? Feb 1, 2023 09:12 |
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https://twitter.com/yaffaesque/status/1620077344299057154?s=20 https://twitter.com/MatthieuFavas/status/1620027311763623937?s=20 A couple of good articles. Maybe NMS, the first one includes details about a burial detail and the usual Russian atrocities.
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# ? Feb 1, 2023 09:13 |
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Kraftwerk posted:Mild warning - dude shows off his mostly healed war scars and for some vivid descriptions of frontline combat https://old.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/10phb3z/rcombatfootage_believes_they_can_handle_the_truth/ quote:Final result is that it appears CivDiv manufactured an entire false narrative about a perfectly placed and timed artillery shell landing in order to cover for the rash actions of an american in ukraine which seemingly led to the death of an Irishman and an American in Ukraine, and the wounding of multiple others. Probably a good idea to treat "war youtubers" with suspicion, if not contempt.
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# ? Feb 1, 2023 09:16 |
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Fritz the Horse posted:I'm gonna be the fun police and suggest we not go overboard riffing on fatherboxx the IK, thanks. So you're promising us he's not just being given a morning of training and sent to the front?
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# ? Feb 1, 2023 09:17 |
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Herstory Begins Now posted:So you're promising us he's not just being given a morning of training and sent to the front? He needs to consider if he'll continue Cinci's posture of never ceding ground when the thread is under attack.
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# ? Feb 1, 2023 09:22 |
Donkringel posted:What does IK stand for? Ammo dumps right outside of HIMARS range, maybe known military bases/HQs, if any. Depending on what sort of warheads are on whatever the longer range thing ends up being, the railroad from Crimea into Melitopol’, in some fashion.
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# ? Feb 1, 2023 09:59 |
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The city of Luhansk gets into range too
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HolHorsejob posted:lol fatherboxx issuing probes and bans that he'll rescind, if you buy avs and start accounts that he can sell on the side Expecting my minibar to be lined up with awful brandy in sword bottles any day now. *** Thank you all for condolences I believe the rule of Cinci the First has disciplined the thread well and the flow of discussion is great these days and everyone understands the rules and customs of this topic. So, as always, be wary of clancychat, footage and going offtopic on cold war doctrines and whatever else. Going forward, I recommend everyone to check their sources when linking stories here, let's keep this thread a decent place for discussions and not just a repository of whatever gets dropped on TG by nobodies. Please consider that you probably dont have military clearence to know what is exactly happening on the battlefield in Ukraine. Just because helpful dogs post videos every day on twitter what you see there is mere small percentage of actual fighting. So be careful about making conclusions just based on public information and statements from experts.
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# ? Feb 1, 2023 10:10 |
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Fritz the Horse posted:fatherboxx has graciously agreed to IK this thread. Feel free to offer them your condolences. We may (hopefully) yet find a second IK. A good choice.
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# ? Feb 1, 2023 10:58 |
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Here's something interesting I didn't know about before, concerning the Swiss arsenal: https://www.srf.ch/news/schweiz/krieg-in-der-ukraine-leopard-panzer-ringtausch-dank-schweizer-sonderregel Translation as always via deepl and proofread by me: quote:Leopard tank: Ring swap thanks to special Swiss rule? However, take this with a Monte Kali, because Switzerland can be quite slow to act and there may or may not be political will to do this. (My money is on "not going to happen this year", but I find Swiss politics baffling and uneffable)
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# ? Feb 1, 2023 11:18 |
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Antigravitas posted:
After reading all that; looks like the gung-ho American shot the Spetsnaz negotiator in the head leading to their fight to the death and the death of an American and a fellow Irishman Rory Mason. o7 edit: Just Another Lurker fucked around with this message at 11:25 on Feb 1, 2023 |
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WarpedLichen posted:Isn't mandatory military service still quite common? I thought places like Singapore, South Korea, Sweden, Switzerland, etc, all still do it? Sweden's conscription is basically voluntary at this point. When it comes to readyness for conflict and such, Sweden took one look around in the 90s and said gently caress maintaining all this expensive stuff and got rid of everything it possibly could. They've been taking steps to reverse it recently though. But this laissez faire attitude affects more than the military in Sweden though. Food self sufficiency was given up as an idea too and hovers around 50% (Finland for comparison is over 80% and could be improved rapidly in need)
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# ? Feb 1, 2023 12:17 |
Busy day for SBU. Ongoing searches in residences of Kolomoyskiy, Stolar, and Avakov; and in the state revenue service. They’ve also indicted the president of Motor Sich, the company that was rumoured last year to have supplied combat helicopter parts to Russia. And issued a formal suspicion statement against a MoD employee in connection with a low-quality armoured vest purchase. Also, the whole leadership (unclear) or the state customs service has been fired, in addition to some unannounced action. https://censor.net/ru/news/3397027/segodnya_ves_rukovodyaschiyi_sostav_tamojni_budet_uvolen_arahamiya All of this broadly continues the recent corruption scandal, since G7 + EU are using this opportunity to press Ukraine for sooner legislative changes to start shoring up the regulatory basis in this area towards EU entry criteria. Censor journalists were also reporting earlier, though, that there might be some politics at play in selection of the next anti-corruption bureau director, but it’s too early to tell what that process will end up with. cinci zoo sniper fucked around with this message at 12:42 on Feb 1, 2023 |
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His Divine Shadow posted:Sweden's conscription is basically voluntary at this point. When it comes to readyness for conflict and such, Sweden took one look around in the 90s and said gently caress maintaining all this expensive stuff and got rid of everything it possibly could. They've been taking steps to reverse it recently though. The Swedish navy and airforce are still good, but ground forces have been hit hard. Prime example was the panicked realisation that there was no garrison at all in Gotland after little green men appeared in the Crimea.
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# ? Feb 1, 2023 12:40 |
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Arte released an okay look around the Baltics a few days ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7_9-LXW0sg Note that due to the idiotic rights situation public TV is operating under the link will be dead in a month. e: This is bizarre. The host is speaking English, but it's dubbed into German, and this Tracks East series does not appear on the English-language Arte channel. However, there is a playlist of the same videos, but with… German subtitles? Wat? Anywy, here's the link https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLFGSMmY3wd5KErmIYHlPr_6MY0-Fgs0oC Antigravitas fucked around with this message at 13:49 on Feb 1, 2023 |
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Unavailable here in the states
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# ? Feb 1, 2023 13:47 |
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You can chalk that up to the idiotic rights situation as well. I can rehost it if you are interested.
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# ? Feb 1, 2023 13:54 |
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Antigravitas posted:https://old.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/10phb3z/rcombatfootage_believes_they_can_handle_the_truth/ quote:at the end some Russian came out with his hands up and no gun I hope there's an investigation someday, that is hosed up.
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# ? Feb 1, 2023 13:56 |
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Antigravitas posted:However, there is a playlist of the same videos, but with… German subtitles? Wat? these show up fine here
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# ? Feb 1, 2023 14:14 |
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Libluini posted:The draft was a staple of Germany, based on the theory that you can only have a real Democracy if you make sure the people will constantly be shuffled through the armed forces via the draft. This is to prevent authoritarian structures to build up, completely separated from the larger population. DTurtle posted:There was already a push towards reinstating some kind of national service, as people declining to go to the Bundeswehr used to be a good, cheap source for things like ambulance drivers, helpers in retirement homes, etc. Vincent Van Goatse posted:The one with the buttons probates! When the one with the buttons gets banned, the one behind him takes the buttons and probates! evil_bunnY fucked around with this message at 14:20 on Feb 1, 2023 |
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Possibly an America-centric point of view on the topic, so keep that in mind. My biggest concern with mandatory service is that it ends up as yet another thing that fucks over poor people and rich people abuse. A years-long time tax on people who are already dealing with the inconceivably lovely situation of being poor in America, while the rich will doctor-shop around to find excuses to get out of it or, if by some miracle actually forced in to doing it, will find a way to purchase all the best forms of service for themselves.
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# ? Feb 1, 2023 14:31 |
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Slashrat posted:I get the impression that these days, for the smaller european nations at least, conscription is more about keeping the Basic Training pipeline continually active rather than getting actual labor out of the conscripts. Labour... out of the conscripts? Are you including, in "conscipts", the people who choose non-military service instead? Why would you ever get "labour" out of the literal conscripts i.e. the youngsters in the barracks learning how to shoot guns and march in formation? The whole point of those is the basic training
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jaete posted:Labour... out of the conscripts? Are you including, in "conscipts", the people who choose non-military service instead?
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# ? Feb 1, 2023 14:53 |
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Alchenar posted:He needs to consider if he'll continue Cinci's posture of never ceding ground when the thread is under attack. NOT ONE POST BACK!
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# ? Feb 1, 2023 14:58 |
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evil_bunnY posted:Ah yes, nazi officers were famously non-existent. Indeed! Only completely innocent Wehrmacht-officers were involved in creating this system! That, and the Bundeswehr officially derives its traditions from the very short-lived revolutionary German Republic of 1848, for obvious reasons.
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Freakazoid_ posted:I hope there's an investigation someday, that is hosed up. Reading the actual thread it seems like just fog of war. They corner Russians in a house. They start negotiating. While people are negotiating, American 1 is killed by an explosion/ shot to the head. American 2 thinks that the Russians are violating the truce and shoots the Russian negotiator. Russians shoot the Irishman. Reminds me of the earlier video where Ukranians are trying to take Russian hostages and one of them tries to use the surrender to ambush the Ukrainians and gets the whole group killed.
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# ? Feb 1, 2023 15:13 |
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Herstory Begins Now posted:So you're promising us he's not just being given a morning of training and sent to the front? MobIK
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bird food bathtub posted:Possibly an America-centric point of view on the topic, so keep that in mind. My biggest concern with mandatory service is that it ends up as yet another thing that fucks over poor people and rich people abuse. A years-long time tax on people who are already dealing with the inconceivably lovely situation of being poor in America, while the rich will doctor-shop around to find excuses to get out of it or, if by some miracle actually forced in to doing it, will find a way to purchase all the best forms of service for themselves. Depends on how it’s implemented, as always. In most cases the upper classes (or, at least, the well educated) did military service as officers but were not exempt. It’s still the case in eg South Korea where Kpop idols and stuff do not get exempted either (only some athletes, which is the main backdoor afaik) However, mandatory service absolutely puts men on the backfoot compared to women of similar social standing / education because in most countries, women are exempted. A number of mitigating measures in South Korea have recently become points of contention as women wonder why men get transitional measures and men defend them, stating they are necessary to bridge e.g. experience or education gaps due to their mandatory service.
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Deltasquid posted:However, mandatory service absolutely puts men on the backfoot compared to women of similar social standing / education because in most countries, women are exempted. A number of mitigating measures in South Korea have recently become points of contention as women wonder why men get transitional measures and men defend them, stating they are necessary to bridge e.g. experience or education gaps due to their mandatory service.
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Donkringel posted:Also in keeping with discussion of current events, what are the most likely targets for Ukraine if they get the longer ranged missiles? It looks like they can strike at what remains of the Black Sea fleet but I'm not sure worthwhile targets they would be since they've been sitting in port for awhile (AFAIK). Once they retake Melitopol, they'll have safety and definitively be in rocket range of the Kerch bridge. It's at that point they can offer Russia terms of armistace or they rocket the bridge to rubble and the real humiliation begins. Without Kerch bridge's rail and bridge system and Melitopol line, Russia relies entirely on more vulnerable boats and planes and an intense logistical challenge to resupply Crimea, which makes it increasingly more vulnerable.
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Fritz the Horse posted:fatherboxx has graciously agreed to IK this thread. H ... hail Darkseid? In other news, RAND Corporation is getting jumpy and we're back to the "Putin needs an offramp!" rhetoric. Here's an excerpt from the Washington Post's daily international newsletter. quote:The war in Ukraine, at least for some policymakers in Western capitals, can be measured in deliveries of weapons. Their response to the brutal onslaught unleashed by Russia last February has been a parade of armor and steel: Javelins, howitzers, drones, strike vehicles, antiaircraft systems, HIMARS and, most recently, battle tanks. At every stage, Kyiv has clamored for more to throw out the invading Russians, and at almost every stage, the West has acceded to Ukrainian demands, though perhaps not at the speed Ukraine would like.
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Moon Slayer posted:H ... hail Darkseid? It sounds like they’re trying to capitalise on the attention focused by the reports of the seeming breakdown of the New Start treaty.
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Training of Ukrainian soldiers inside EU-stateswill be doubled . The training programs running in the different EU-states currently train 15k soldiers. The new goal is training 30k soldiers.
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Moon Slayer posted:H ... hail Darkseid? quote:“Yes, it would be nice if Ukraine clawed back some more territory,” he wrote. “But at what cost and for what strategic gain? Even in the unlikely event that the West were to back Ukraine to the hilt for many years and were eventually to force Russia out of all Ukrainian territory, Russia would probably restart the war at some point to salvage its lost gains and its reputation.” And freezing the conflict would forestall Russia from doing the same thing from a stronger position... how, exactly?
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Libluini posted:Training of Ukrainian soldiers inside EU-stateswill be doubled . As per our news, it seems that this was one of the things decided at Ramstein, since our defence ministry announced 2000-soldier training programme (twice the 2022 scale) the next business day after the Ramstein meeting. https://www.lsm.lv/raksts/zinas/latvija/latvija-sogad-apmacis-ap-2000-ukrainu-karaviru.a492653/
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the holy poopacy posted:And freezing the conflict would forestall Russia from doing the same thing from a stronger position... how, exactly? It's from the same guy who wrote an article like 10 months ago about how weapons aid to Ukraine won't make any difference.
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fatherboxx posted:Thank you all for condolences Better you than me, you poor bastard. Good luck. the holy poopacy posted:And freezing the conflict would forestall Russia from doing the same thing from a stronger position... how, exactly? Honestly, it's kind of a weird tension going on because it increasingly feels like Ukrainian total victory is unlikely without spending years at war which seems difficult to sustain, but at the same time it's hard to see how a negotiated settlement could possibly assuage Ukraine's security concerns given the likelihood of Russia doing exactly what you say.
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