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kaesarsosei posted:Its loving crazy how much this thing was slept on. I suggested after a couple of games that it might be a side-grade to Thunderer (which is basically the highest compliment you can give a BB) and got kinda flamed for that. When brawl was 1v1 tier 10s I kept losing to St Vincents due to the most bullshit awful RNG. They’d go down to like 20% health then grow it all back and meanwhile my guns were operating in Spaceballs mode. Looking back I think they must’ve been running Furious and I just didn’t even consider it because who runs Furious?? Guys with superheals apparently.
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St. V was instantly used in the first comp event it was available in, the only people who slept on it were I guess people who don't play competitive/treat every BB like a ramming barge
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General Battuta posted:Superconqueror, Superpetro, hybrid destroyers, support CVs. dont forget those "support" CVs can apparently lay minefields and smoke so of course the troll option is to smoke up the enemy team
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toadee posted:St. V was instantly used in the first comp event it was available in, the only people who slept on it were I guess people who don't play competitive/treat every BB like a ramming barge I think that's most of the playerbase though.
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Feb 2, 2023 16:56
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Yeah, I still like this game but anyone who plays at a competitive level beyond Silver ranked needs their head looking at.
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Teron D Amun posted:dont forget those "support" CVs can apparently lay minefields and smoke so of course the troll option is to smoke up the enemy team They are going to be 100% useless in randoms, 100% broken in divisions and organized play where your teammates aren't sharing 10 IQ between them and can actually play together.
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kaesarsosei posted:Yeah, I still like this game but anyone who plays at a competitive level beyond Silver ranked needs their head looking at. Ranked is just random battles with small teams, extra rewards, and people get angry in chat all the time for no apparent reason which is a good opportunity to call them out for their win rate (this is still true if their win rate is higher than yours). Playing clan battles or tournaments is sort of weird but nothing really noteworthy.
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Feb 2, 2023 17:54
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Clan Battles and tournaments are tons of fun because you are playing with a group of people you know and work together with. Ranked is also not a competitive mode at all. Randoms are more competitive since they count towards stats that people look at. Ranked is the for fun mode. Clan Battles is the only in game competitive mode.
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There's no logical reason ranked is super frustrating but there is an emotional reason. In theory ranked is just a chance to play random battles, but smaller, with some extra rewards tied to winning and some more extra rewards tied to winning consistently (you get to go up a league for the next sprint and get more stuff). In practice, ranked is like the joke about the old men who wants the kids to stop playing on his lawn. He says, "Kids, I love seeing you play out here, it brings joy to my old heart. I love it so much I'm gonna pay you all a dollar a day to play on my lawn." The kids are like, great, we get a dollar a day to do what we were doing anyway. But after a while the old man says "Kids, times are hard and my social security checks keep bouncing. I'm afraid I can only pay you a quarter a day to play out here." And the kids are like, man, screw you, it's not even worth it any more. That's what it's like losing in Ranked, you coulda had that big juicy dollar but you ONLY got a quarter, and now you gotta play more to earn your funny bucks. Ranked is also small enough that you can really savor how loving stupid the playerbase is and how obliviously a 43% WR player will gently caress your entire team right from the initial split.
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kaesarsosei posted:Yeah, I still like this game but anyone who plays at a competitive level beyond Silver ranked needs their head looking at. I cannot imagine the level of frustration this would cause.
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Stanley Pain posted:I cannot imagine the level of frustration this would cause. Clan battles are usually less frustrating than trying to complete a ranked season, since you consistently have the same team. That said, ranked is also less frustrating than random games if you just don't promote to the top league, which doesn't significantly reduce the rewards.
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Ranked is great, you get steel and doubloons for playing a mode without subs and rarely cvs. The only grind is if you want to actually rank up or out. Which is optional.
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Feb 2, 2023 20:59
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I never get past bronze because I’m a bad who can’t do the qualifications to move to silver 
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Ranked is most fun when it is all T10.
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I find Silver ranked relatively stress free. It is absolutely astounding how bad the playerbase is in any league though, so yes ranked leagues have little correlation with playerskill. What I don't like is the pixel-by-pixel demands of playing CBs to a serious degree. eg knowing exactly where the spotting point amidships of a Des Moines is so you can just peak your nose out enough from behind an island to fire without being spotted. Or every single map in CB being solved with exact placement of ships. I just don't enjoy such regimented gameplay. I'm also far too lazy to try and remember it all. If I am online playing for 2 hours I would rather play 8 ranked games mindlessly than 3-4 CB matches with all the planning and discussion that goes on in between. Maybe I just hate the general public :-)
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kaesarsosei posted:I find Silver ranked relatively stress free. It is absolutely astounding how bad the playerbase is in any league though, so yes ranked leagues have little correlation with playerskill. lmao its not that regimented my dude
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my clan is normally in the second from the top league (I don't remember the name orders) and we never deal with any of that poo poo lol.
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I present literally the winningest shot caller in NA Clan Battles history. Back to back to back to back to back to back to back NA Clan Battles champs https://clips.twitch.tv/ShakingHumbleYogurtStoneLightning It's really not that regimented
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Gwaihir posted:my clan is normally in the second from the top league (I don't remember the name orders) and we never deal with any of that poo poo lol. The people who play like those things matter are completely insufferable about it; which is a big factor to why the playerbase doesn’t expand meaningfully.
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Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:The people who play like those things matter are completely insufferable about it; which is a big factor to why the playerbase doesn’t expand meaningfully. You would honestly be surprised. This is maybe true for the top like few clans overall, but nobody is pushing to play on the push team for a top 5 clan and not expecting there to be pressure to perform. Everywhere else is varying degrees of more chill plus also running bravo squads on lower ratings. Also lots of stuff like groups of 3 people from high ranked clans merc'ing for super low ranked clans, or playing fun/funny clan battles using alt accounts in alt clans (like CVLUL).
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All of the weird stuff like memorizing spotting locations and holding mandatory practice sessions is more about being a nerd than it is about clan battles, the 43% USMC clans that give their members military ranks also do mandatory practice sessions. You can get up to the third bracket just by bringing a team of people who are mostly above 50% and looking at the map, I don't think you even need voice chat. Maybe it's changed since I played, but nobody in the bottom half of the clan battle rankings knew how to deal with a battleship driving at them so you could just bring a secondary German battleship and drive it into a cap with some radar cruisers following, no micromanagement required.
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lol this brawl. 6v6 T10 ships with no class matching. Had a game with 2 BB, 2 CA and 2 DD vs one CV, four BBs and one DD. The CV was the Malta so that didn't go so hot for our team.
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I am slowly getting better at the rear end cancer that is submarines. Got a 105k game in a cachalot today, their BBs were absolute trash and just walked into my torps. Learning to resist the urge to push in until the battle starts to unfold, since you really don't have the speed to relocate if a flank collapses around you.
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As soon as I unlocked the two T10 subs, I haven't played a game in them since. Tbf there is part of the gameplay that is good, maybe 25% of the time when you are actively managing your detection, using the third dimension appropiately, keeping an eye on your battery, etc. But its absolute bullshit if you get into a situation where you are alone against esp a BB and can just nail him with unguided torps from 6km every 40 secs. And then on the other hands I had some games where I did gently caress all. I don't think they will ever fit correctly into the game.
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kaesarsosei posted:As soon as I unlocked the two T10 subs, I haven't played a game in them since. Tbf there is part of the gameplay that is good, maybe 25% of the time when you are actively managing your detection, using the third dimension appropiately, keeping an eye on your battery, etc. But its absolute bullshit if you get into a situation where you are alone against esp a BB and can just nail him with unguided torps from 6km every 40 secs. And then on the other hands I had some games where I did gently caress all. I don't think they will ever fit correctly into the game. The best way I can sum it up is you are reliant on your team to not be complete dogshit, which is a rare thing in botes. Subs are potent but they are counterable, especially if they have little/no support. Like, I can farm some damage sure, can even have a 100-200k dmg game, but if my team is dogshit, all I did was farm points because it's really easy to get hosed up in a sub if your team sucks and can't keep surface ships busy. 70% of the time it sucks rear end to play a sub, 30% of the time it all lines up and you harvest immense quantities of the purest salt. Also, can't wait until the (full) Russian sub line gets put in, because it will be, and they will be made of pure Stalinium. orange juche fucked around with this message at 10:18 on Feb 7, 2023 |
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At this point what is even the point of having ASW?  You need to drive your loving light cruiser on top of the submarine, hope your one (1) depth charge lands close enough to do damage, and then you can do a maximum of 5000 damage. By which time you'll be about 80% dead because you have been spotted for the past two minutes by the sub. See also: Jean Bart having 5 KM ASW planes. orange juche posted:Also, can't wait until the (full) Russian sub line gets put in, because it will be, and they will be made of pure Stalinium. Love all the people going "yeah but they look bad, the Soviet subs are going to be bad", just like they did with the Soviet CVs.
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Shaman Tank Spec posted:Love all the people going "yeah but they look bad, the Soviet subs are going to be bad", just like they did with the Soviet CVs. How to take an incredibly overpowered and toxic class and make them even worse, a Wargaming speciality
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The Soviet subs will be invincible, undetectable and have 100kt torps with perfect homing, 13k alpha, and 12km range at T6. WG will claim it is historically accurate.
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https://twitter.com/Yurobeat_/status/1627678275337338880
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I dunno, I would loving love to be one of those D7Ps in that match.
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been really enjoying the zieten, the secondary range being the detectability range sure is fun. i hear it's all upwards from here?
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Very much so. Schlieffen has gotten a couple of minor nerfs, but in the smaller scale modes like ranked, brawls, or airship escorts, it's amazing.
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I’ve been playing again fairly often because I’m traveling and it’s one of the games I can run on my laptop without a discrete GPU. I’m hardly ever in a match with subs now, but the biggest annoyance I have is that the main play style is even more long range and conservative than ever. Pushing forward at all, unless it’s the end of the match is almost always suicidal. I mainly play cruisers, so I spend most of the game taking potshots at 20km, waiting for something interesting to happen, or for my team to just kill themselves on one flank and the game to basically be over.
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colonelwest posted:Pushing forward at all, unless it’s the end of the match is almost always suicidal. I mainly play cruisers, so I spend most of the game taking potshots at 20km, waiting for something interesting to happen, or for my team to just kill themselves on one flank and the game to basically be over. lmao https://clips.twitch.tv/SlickInventiveWebMingLee-B2AxO2w4F8Bo6iC_
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Momma Mia that’s a spicy meatball!
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I have to say these US Battleship missions are pretty fun. It's nice to have goals to work towards that aren't "win a game" because this way it doesn't bother me as much when my team just plays like they collectively have one brain cell. Except of course some of the goals are "win a large number of games" or "get a shitload of XP", which do require winning.
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