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I guess I'm late to the 30 Rock chat, but I find myself disliking its triumphant lib energy. It's competently crafted lib show that ultimately just wants credit for being a self-aware. It knows GE and the TV industry sucks. Jokes and entire plots are written to handwring that. But ultimately every rear end in a top hat is supposed to our rear end in a top hat. Even the literal network boss. Unlike It's Always Sunny, these assholes are people who possess power and have careers that millions covet. And we know IRL the people who made 30 Rock, including the writers and stars have this bizarre embattled mindset. Every defense I've seen is "but it's funny". Sure. I checked out after one season while I was still quite lib-brained. I won't lie and say I wasn't bothered at all at the show's pathological need to punch at wokescolds, but I felt there was something more wrong about it. Like it's saying "we know we suck, but what are you gonna do about it?" which kind of feels like the official GenX lib slogan since 2016.
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yeah but on the other hand werewolf bar mitzvah spooky scary boys becoming men men becoming wolves
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indigi posted:yeah but on the other hand werewolf bar mitzvah spooky scary boys becoming men men becoming wolves
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Feb 4, 2023 04:54
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Again from a socialist point of view I think sex is the best because you don't have to buy anything or go anywhere or subscribe to anything or whatever like you could have two people who are incredibly poor can't afford a night at the movies or a night out at a bar but they can have lots of fun doing sex stuff, totally free. And drat so much of Tina Fey's comedy is that people who do sex and even worse, enjoy sex, are bad and stupid. It's like Stephen King and fat people
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Feb 4, 2023 05:01
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indigi posted:yeah but on the other hand werewolf bar mitzvah spooky scary boys becoming men men becoming wolves literally one of my top 10 intrusive thoughts that frequently pop into my head at random chances
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Mantis42 posted:This is most legacy sequels! They all do this! i have issues with it but it's the similar problem Austin Walker was talking about in his soybanter whedon dialog essay. like people are so desperately afraid to be mocked that they just defang themselves and go "haha see guys im also in on the joke! this sux am i rite?? u cant laugh at me because i'm also laughing at me!! puppet master!!". it's that weird postmodern irony that everyone has spent the last 20-30+ years marinading and putrefying their brain in that everyone is essentially extremely blackpilled cynical, and not in the political way but rather the general sociological way
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nothing matters because if something matters then that's an cultural vulnerability people can exploit against me. ergo, nothing matters so i'm invulnerable
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Oglethorpe posted:also i think SG:U was the best stargate series? Koirhor posted:what the gently caress Universe leans hard into the Battlestar reboot feel in that it works great out the gate with blind panic and how to survive in the unknown, but then collapses into religious symbolism and mystery box bullshit SG-1 and Atlantis are great. the one thing that's awesome about them is the writing is pretty consistent and plot holes minimal, so there's usually an answer for wtf just happened. On that note just started Farscape and it feels reeeeeeeally sloppy. They're playing fast and loose with the science and seem to forget some things and focus way too much on others. I'm hoping it picks up once the cast gels, I know Scorpio doesnt show up until near the end of season 1 but thinking of seeing what eps I can skip until then. Durf has issued a correction as of 05:29 on Feb 4, 2023 |
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30 Rock and even moreso Parks and Rec were written at the creating of a wave. That generation of liberal woman really perceived themselves to be at the End of History, with only slight improvements needed in the march of progress (their own professional attainment, given form in Hillary Clinton). It’s a show for Pussy Hats right before the wave broke. Kimmy Schmidt is sort of working through Trump while retaining optimism and girl power, the triumphant march of cultural liberalism, Girls 5Eva is about taking that L, but with the belief that Biden means it’s all over and behind them now. All three are funny.
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The first two of the three were still mostly before White Feminism got the "Girls" backlash. The backlash itself was quite milquetoast, and only shifted power towards BIPOC libs with their own problems. But I think Fey and Poehler benefited greatly from emerging at a very specific time in liberal culture's life cycle.
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I'm trying to decide if I hate myself enough to watch the second season of Vox Machina after watching the first.
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Durf posted:Universe leans hard into the Battlestar reboot feel in that it works great out the gate with blind panic and how to survive in the unknown, but then collapses into religious symbolism and mystery box bullshit that first half of the first season of farscape is pretty rough, but pk tech girl is ep7 and that pretty much gets the ball rolling into the best stretch of scifi to ever exist
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30 rock talk reminded me of studio 60 on the sunset strip, which might be funnier because it takes the idea that snl is important seriously
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I started watching that Three-Body 30 episode adaptation of Three Body Problem that Tencent put out. It moves incredibly slowly. I can't really decide if I like it or not yet.
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I will say theres nothing TLOU game does that some suburban libertarian scifi didn't do back in the 70a. Except for having a race war, so ai guess thats its only improvement
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Doktor Avalanche posted:30 rock talk reminded me of studio 60 on the sunset strip, which might be funnier because it takes the idea that snl is important seriously yeah, the contrast between how studio 60 treats their fake show with nothing but pure reverence whereas every single 30 rock character knows their show sucks and every time we see a skit it's like Fart Doctor
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Barbie will win a oscar, not sure which.
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Nonsense posted:Barbie will win a oscar, not sure which.
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a strange fowl posted:wow 221 new posts, i hope it's not some smug white guy falling over himself to prove how enlightened he is lol that saying "blackface bad" actually got some loving replies and yet somehow that's virtue signalling
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a strange fowl posted:wait, did barbie come out? i remember everyone saying how pumped they were for it, but then, nothing I think it comes out this summer
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a strange fowl posted:wait, did barbie come out? i remember everyone saying how pumped they were for it, but then, nothing that said i don't think it'll be some great takedown of cynical consumerism like some goons/ppl think. mattel isn't going to go for that, and gerwing's past work, while good, isn't the type to do some kind of cynical maoism, but it likely isn't an empty celebration of it either. it'll probably be a fun rom-dance/whatever movie. so now that the goldfish memory media frenzy take-cycle is over, you won't hear anything until the next internet hot take-cycle
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Pepe Silvia Browne posted:Robert Downey Jr. doing blackface to mock actors going to extreme to play roles they think will get them an Oscar was an extremely risky thing to do, because it is problematic. And that risk still paid off and it's funny. It's also literally called out in the movie that Hollywood will do basically anything to stick a marketable face in a role rather than just cast an actual black person Best part is the ending where his character reverts to other various roles he's played before finally becoming himself like a dying shapeshifter. Xaris posted:not yet. it got a big hype bump because a) everyone expected it to be some boring dumb toy-cash-in romcom when it was first announced, b) the trailer was like the first trailer in years that didn't spoil the whole movie and was weird as hell with post-apocalyptic babies smashing dolls leaving people far more curious and wanting to find out more, c) simu liu and other ppl have hyped it up, and d) it definitely has a weird but unique aesthetic. basically expectations were in the sewer and they came out with something that was promising far beyond the sewer-level everyone was thinking And this whole thing reminded me of something and now lol if Barbie ends up the new My Little Pony But at this point I think trying to take down cynical consumerism is the most pointless thing in the world, consumerism won total victory a long time ago and frankly literally every other problem is bigger. There's way more fun to be had in exploring people's relationships with their dolls.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:But at this point I think trying to take down cynical consumerism is the most pointless thing in the world, consumerism won total victory a long time ago and frankly literally every other problem is bigger. There's way more fun to be had in exploring people's relationships with their dolls. i completely agree and that is probably what it is going for. i've seen various hot takes floating around on CD or general internet hyping themselves up for something it is obviously not going to be. like someone was saying it's going to be some great david lynchian psychadelic fever dream about capitalism or w/e and it's like lol no basically ppl are doing the typical contemporary internet thing where they've flip 180 degree onto the hype train based on no information at all except their own imagination, and that's only ever going to set them up for disappointment. nothing can match your headcannon Xaris has issued a correction as of 10:59 on Feb 4, 2023 |
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Xaris posted:this is true matrix 4 was definitely not this though - the legacy, irony, wink-wink stuff was all at the start of the film, part of the new nightmare neo is trapped in where he's just hearing about the matrix all the time. the point of the film is reflecting on how, if we have to go back, is there anything useful we can do that isn't just new versions of the same moves? and it very earnestly settles on "trinity should have gotten to do more badass stuff" which is fair enough.
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Frosted Flake posted:30 Rock and even moreso Parks and Rec were written at the creating of a wave. That generation of liberal woman really perceived themselves to be at the End of History, with only slight improvements needed in the march of progress (their own professional attainment, given form in Hillary Clinton). It’s a show for Pussy Hats right before the wave broke. I mostly agree, but 30 Rock is far more cynical than Parks and Rec. Parks and Rec believes in incremental progress, but 30 Rock believes we are doomed to play out the same pointless cycles forever.
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I think it has more to do with Michael Schur's influence tbh
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Substandard posted:I started watching that Three-Body 30 episode adaptation of Three Body Problem that Tencent put out. It moves incredibly slowly. I can't really decide if I like it or not yet. I’m on ep 19 and I’m used to the slow pacing. I haven’t read the book but it’s such an odd series so far. the end credits song though is pretty good. I’m hoping lose threads start tying up though. I just don’t get all the random blurred text and then it isn’t blurred and they say it anyway.
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sonatinas posted:I’m on ep 19 and I’m used to the slow pacing. I haven’t read the book but it’s such an odd series so far. the end credits song though is pretty good.
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i say swears online posted:I tapped out in ep 4. there's really another 10 hours of this show where not a lot happens? really depends on what you mean by “happens” lol it did pick up once we started having flashbacks to early 70s. I’ve been liking those eps the most.
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sonatinas posted:I’m on ep 19 and I’m used to the slow pacing. I haven’t read the book but it’s such an odd series so far. the end credits song though is pretty good. I'm only on episode 5 and it's not bad, I'm probably going to stick with it. It's just wild to me that they will take an entire episode to have like 1 meeting. I'm real curious to see what the Netflix version is like when it comes out. It's definitely taking a weird step to adapt a 300 page book into a 25 hour series (or whatever the episodes are roughly 45 minutes), but it's still somehow compelling.
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Durf posted:On that note just started Farscape and it feels reeeeeeeally sloppy. They're playing fast and loose with the science and seem to forget some things and focus way too much on others. I'm hoping it picks up once the cast gels, I know Scorpio doesnt show up until near the end of season 1 but thinking of seeing what eps I can skip until then. don't watch farscape for the science lmao farscape and babylon 5 both have rough first seasons but pick up a lot afterwards
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watched White Noise last night and wow that was awful. shoulda stayed a book! i got (i think) what they were going for but it just did not work at all for me
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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:watched White Noise last night and wow that was awful. shoulda stayed a book! i got (i think) what they were going for but it just did not work at all for me I didn’t know they made a movie based on my posts
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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:watched White Noise last night and wow that was awful. shoulda stayed a book! i got (i think) what they were going for but it just did not work at all for me Yeah I turned it off halfway through, appreciated what they were doing but it's not for me.
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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:watched White Noise last night and wow that was awful. shoulda stayed a book! i got (i think) what they were going for but it just did not work at all for me and then i see this today, wild https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1621905927958831105
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