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I shouldn’t talk too much poo poo because I did ask the question, but it does feel like there must be a less creepy way to answer.
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Joel should be rocking a very practical XL katana and a black leather duster, maybe some kind of stylish and functional hat.
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# ? Feb 6, 2023 05:25 |
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Ban anyone exhibiting detailed knowledge about gun sizes ITT IMO.
withak fucked around with this message at 05:31 on Feb 6, 2023 |
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covidstomper58 posted:Joel should be rocking a very practical XL katana and a black leather duster, maybe some kind of stylish and functional hat. At least once a year I revisit the Hanwei practical XL katana. “it’s TAPE….it’s tape” entered our brains and will never leave.
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# ? Feb 6, 2023 05:32 |
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I know that Ellie is a smartass in the games, I love that she got a book of bad puns and is studying them navyjack posted:They should have had Joel just load the whole truck up with ammo, supplies, machine guns and grenades, then they lose it all in the truck attack and “whoops one gun.” Yeah, this would have made a lot more sense. That, and Joel deciding to drive through Kansas City instead of giving it a wide berth, just don't make sense. I assume the game had a scene set in a city that they felt the need to re-enact.
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# ? Feb 6, 2023 06:18 |
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It's a scene in the game but it's set further east. I want to say Philly.
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# ? Feb 6, 2023 06:26 |
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Mantis42 posted:It's a scene in the game but it's set further east. I want to say Philly. Pittsburgh.
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# ? Feb 6, 2023 06:28 |
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Makes sense. Come to think of it, Joel talked about plow trucks clearing the highway, so if the smaller highways haven't been cleared then it makes sense he would have been forced to drive through Kansas City.
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# ? Feb 6, 2023 06:38 |
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zelah posted:At least once a year I revisit the Hanwei practical XL katana. “it’s TAPE….it’s tape” entered our brains and will never leave. we dont drink powp in this howwsee
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# ? Feb 6, 2023 06:38 |
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Joel and Ellie talking it out right after the shootout was the high point for me. Pedro Pascal was effectively conveying at least three things at once, trying do the adult thing and get her to talk irrespective of how bad he was at it, struggling with his own horror at the world kids are growing up in now, and alternating between pride and relief that she saved him and his irritation that she had a secret gun. It was a hell of a scene from both of them and he correctly chose a lesson on the gun instead of a lecture. Maybe my bar is just really low after hate-watching TWD for years and witnessing not one single moment of normal human dialogue. I don't really care if these writers don't know their guns to be honest, as long as the words coming out of peoples' mouths are interesting or at least not infuriatingly stupid.
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# ? Feb 6, 2023 06:46 |
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midwestern soccer mom to reaver queen of the wastelands is such a natural progression.
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# ? Feb 6, 2023 06:54 |
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boo boo bear posted:midwestern soccer mom to reaver queen of the wastelands is such a natural progression. i cant stop laughing
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Remy Marathe posted:I don't really care if these writers don't know their guns to be honest, as long as the words coming out of peoples' mouths are interesting or at least not infuriatingly stupid. Would be cool to have gotten both tho
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boo boo bear posted:midwestern soccer mom to reaver queen of the wastelands is such a natural progression. Apparently she's an original character to the show, so it'll be interesting to see how they use her to enhance or subvert the per-existing material. Also I'm guessing the kid Ellie shot and then Joel KO'd was her son, right? She seemed a little young to have a kid that old, but the fact that she shot the doctor after being told he was doomed even with medical aide seemed very "mom dealing with the death of her son in the most violent, reactionary way possible" to me.
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Mantis42 posted:It's a scene in the game but it's set further east. I want to say Philly.
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nine-gear crow posted:Also I'm guessing the kid Ellie shot and then Joel KO'd was her son, right? She seemed a little young to have a kid that old, but the fact that she shot the doctor after being told he was doomed even with medical aide seemed very "mom dealing with the death of her son in the most violent, reactionary way possible" to me. Sure seems like that guy was important somehow. Two pickup trucks go looking for him, and we hear a man shout "They got fuckin' Bryan!"
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# ? Feb 6, 2023 07:13 |
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"Did you kill innocent people" Ellie asking great questions
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BrotherJayne posted:Would be cool to have gotten both tho Yeah, but I find that in depth knowledge of firearms and basic emotional intelligence rarely coexist in the same human, including writers.
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Chamale posted:Sure seems like that guy was important somehow. Two pickup trucks go looking for him, and we hear a man shout "They got fuckin' Bryan!" Her deciding to tear the city apart after she's told he's not going to live suggest he's her son as well. Could be she was reacting to the whole squad getting popped and was like "enough of this poo poo already", but it really seems like it's more "they killed my son, everyone dies now" instead.
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Remy Marathe posted:Maybe my bar is just really low after hate-watching TWD for years and witnessing not one single moment of normal human dialogue. I don't really care if these writers don't know their guns to be honest, as long as the words coming out of peoples' mouths are interesting or at least not infuriatingly stupid.
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# ? Feb 6, 2023 07:21 |
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Poor Joel, his guard was up but the siren-call of the Dad Joke was too powerful for him to resist. Unfortunately it also attracted another dad in the vicinity, leading to the episode's cliffhanger!
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# ? Feb 6, 2023 08:27 |
best ep yet for me! all the joel and ellie stuff was really solid. not a fan of melanie lynskey's character so far though, the "soft-spoken but unhinged warlord" thing doesn't seem very grounded compared to the rest of the show. don't care about guns.
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# ? Feb 6, 2023 08:30 |
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Joel is making a deal of teaching a teen (who looks like she is in high school) handle gun? It's not even that uncommon in pre-zombie America.
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nine-gear crow posted:Her deciding to tear the city apart after she's told he's not going to live suggest he's her son as well. Could be she was reacting to the whole squad getting popped and was like "enough of this poo poo already", but it really seems like it's more "they killed my son, everyone dies now" instead. Her son was straight up dead, Joel killed him. It was the guy beside his body that an extra had his hands on his chest that was still alive but was apparently not going to live even with a doctor.
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D-Pad posted:Her son was straight up dead, Joel killed him. It was the guy beside his body that an extra had his hands on his chest that was still alive but was apparently not going to live even with a doctor. Yeah he wasn’t on screen but we did hear him shouting for his mom and then a knife noise and wet gurgling. Meanwhile that guy looked different and was in a different place.
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Xiahou Dun posted:Yeah he wasn’t on screen but we did hear him shouting for his mom and then a knife noise and wet gurgling. It showed the guy Joel killed laying dead and the soccer mom looking at him. Then she asks if he will live (meaning the guy beside him getting worked on) and that's when she was told no. I also thought the guy Joel killed was her son, but she didn't react much at all which I am not sure if it is because he isn't actually her son or we are supposed to see how much of a stone cold bitch she is.
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They have better LED flashlights than were available in 2003. Immersion ruined.
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Bored As gently caress posted:Regardless, 5.56x45 would be more plentiful than any other round out there short of 9mm. Those are the two most stocked, most common rounds in the entire U.S. besides .22lr, which is garbage for self defense.
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stephenthinkpad posted:Joel is making a deal of teaching a teen (who looks like she is in high school) handle gun? It's not even that uncommon in pre-zombie America. I think he might have avoided interacting with children for the last few decades.
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stephenthinkpad posted:Joel is making a deal of teaching a teen (who looks like she is in high school) handle gun? It's not even that uncommon in pre-zombie America. "I trust this teenager, who I just met three days ago, to have a gun at my back." - No Sane Person Ever
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BlackIronHeart posted:"I trust this teenager, who I just met three days ago, to have a gun at my back." - No Sane Person Ever There are no sane people in a zombie apocalypse lol
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# ? Feb 6, 2023 11:58 |
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It may be 3 days but it feels like 4 weeks. Also relationships grow on pun jokes.
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smackfu posted:To be honest, didn’t love that shot for that reason. “Please don’t keep zooming out” is not the response you want in your audience. I thought that was deliberate choice to be honest. The “please don’t keep zooming” feeling was apparent to the point my girlfriend said it out loud watching, but it mercifully stops on the nice image of the painting and window. It reminded me of the quote about how the trick to a happy ending is where you stop telling the story, since in the end everyone dies so all endings are sad. Bill and Frank got a happy ending, kinda, so long as you don’t linger on the last bit. flashy_mcflash posted:The more I read about the complaints about this episode the more I see its importance. It is clarifying"what you signed up for", which is a story that takes place in a world full of side characters with their own internal lives that are meant to give gravity and a lived-in feeling to the experience. I mean I’ve never played the games but I got that they’re going for a character focus from the title. “the last of us” implies a story about communal loss. Not necessarily a story primarily about murking monsters. Phenotype posted:
Bill explicitly said he was happy when the world died. The fact that they weren’t under massive physical threat and were just locked in a stagnant paradise isn’t a major issue imo. It’s not the physical suffering that makes their situation interesting it’s the quiet: waiting room at the end of the world vibe. massive spider fucked around with this message at 13:08 on Feb 6, 2023 |
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Mantis42 posted:It's a scene in the game but it's set further east. I want to say Philly. From the aftershow, it sounds like they changed it because they knew they were going to film in Canada and wanted a generic Midwest city rather than something recognizable like Pittsburgh.
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A considerable budget would need to go to terrible towels
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smackfu posted:From the aftershow, it sounds like they changed it because they knew they were going to film in Canada and wanted a generic Midwest city rather than something recognizable like Pittsburgh. What stands out about Pittsburgh compared to anywhere else? Not doubting you, I just don't know the first darn thing about the place!
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What in the absolute gently caress is recognizable about Pittsburgh other than depression and alcoholism?
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Yeah, I’ve been to Pittsburg a few times and uh…
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Grey Area posted:Was that still true in 2003? I feel like the AR-15 boom happened later, but I'm not overly familiar with American gun culture. (I remember there was a run on 5.56 in 2008 before Barrack HUSSEIN Obama stole everything more dangerous than a tooth pick.) I think the AR-15 boom started a little earlier, like in the mid 90s, but regardless, you know who has a lot of 5.56? FEDRA and the military. So even if the boom didn't happen in this universe it would still be the most plentiful ammunition by far, and from episode 1 we know there's a factory in Atlanta that still makes it. Bugblatter posted:Yeah, but I find that in depth knowledge of firearms and basic emotional intelligence rarely coexist in the same human, including writers. Okay, fair enough, but just hire someone that does and get their feedback on it. I understand that never everyone is into guns but in a show where they matter it a lot I don't think it's unreasonable to pay a little bit of attention to them in way that doesn't need to bog the story down. One was suggested in this very thread, just have them load the car up, and make it so they have to abandon them. You see this in war movies/shows a lot too, if they had just asked someone with knowledge in that field they could avoid what are really easy L's to avoid. It's why The Hurt Locker is so disliked by the veteran community. What's the big deal, Bulky, haven't you heard of suspension of disbelief? There's zombies! Sure, but the more you ask your audience to suspend disbelief, especially over stuff there's no real reason to have to make that ask, the more you risk a fictional world that gets rejected. I find this stuff to be jarring when I'm asked to believe Joel is a beast at post-apocalyptic survival. Ditto for his decision to go directly through Kansas City instead of driving around it where it's much harder to get ambushed by infected or survivors. His biggest reason for it seemed to be that he chose to go into the city because the plot needed him to. But of course there's the moral/political angle to this topic as well, so people get fired up about in a way that wouldn't happen if the next Jurassic Park decided to show T-Rex as a cuddly herbivore or a show about the American revolution where everyone wore 20th century clothing.
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Getting forced to go through a city makes more sense out east where it's more urbanized and probably very easy for the highways to be blocked around them. It's still kind of dumb.
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