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I still can’t believe I was so depressed in 2020 I missed the entire Bucs season that year 
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Trent Dilfer owns
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Feb 7, 2023 04:10
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syzpid posted:There was a story last week that CBS had an intervention with Romo about his broadcasting before this season started. So they haven't been happy with him either. quote:“To call this an intervention is a complete mischaracterization, we meet regularly with our on-air talent,” CBS Sports spokeswoman Jen Sabatelle said…
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Feb 7, 2023 04:45
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I'm still Mad about Chargers/Bucs in 2020
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Feb 7, 2023 04:50
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Maybe Nantz just sucks poo poo
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Feb 7, 2023 05:21
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Shinjobi posted:Maybe Nantz just sucks poo poo yeah was gonna say "seems like a common denominator here"
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Feb 7, 2023 05:37
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aBagorn posted:yeah was gonna say "seems like a common denominator here" He loves calling golf, much like how Joe Buck hated calling baseball.
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Feb 7, 2023 05:51
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Dilf!! https://twitter.com/dakidgowie/status/1622670771469393951?s=46&t=Kn3aEjZU3ZHx2B8YUJMkTQ
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Feb 7, 2023 05:59
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Eagles already had their nightmare difficulty run to the SB, idc if they have an easy go of it this time
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Feb 7, 2023 06:09
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soggybagel posted:Dilf!! It's also funny that the throw had such a high arc that even the worst defense in the modern NFL would have a defender in range of intercepting that.
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Feb 7, 2023 07:15
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bows1 posted:https://twitter.com/iamsaucegardner/status/1622706600954789893?s=46&t=tyKFYV-FEpeBZL7ZvoOFlw Is this a shot across the bow of Ja Morant?
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Feb 7, 2023 08:12
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Lifespan posted:It's also funny that the throw had such a high arc that even the worst defense in the modern NFL would have a defender in range of intercepting that. I think you'll find that Trent Dilfer, genius quarterback, threw that ball in such a way that no defender could possibly catch it because it was five yards out of bounds
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Feb 7, 2023 09:05
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soggybagel posted:Dilf!! That dropback my word
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Feb 7, 2023 09:05
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the 7 step drop back, the I formation. Wow. Why the gently caress does anyone listen to anything from players 20+ years out of the game?
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Feb 7, 2023 10:44
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Timby posted:Remember that Dilfer is in part responsible for that garbage QBR stat that ESPN loves. I'm pretty sure Dilfer was just their sort of celebrity endorsement type thing for it and it really was cooked up by various stat people.
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Feb 7, 2023 10:48
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soggybagel posted:Anyone watch bullies of Baltimore doc? I watched the first 20 minutes and thought it was trash. Just a real victory lap and was pretty boring. I posted my thoughts on it earlier as a Ravens fan. It's not a documentary at all like a 30 for 30, just they made a presentation of a 2000 Ravens tribute event they had at the meyerhoff last year. So really nice reflection for Ravens fans who remember that team but nobody else really. There wasn't really anything new that hasn't been covered in other things. But of course as a Ravens fan I loved it. Kawalimus fucked around with this message at 11:07 on Feb 7, 2023 |
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Feb 7, 2023 10:51
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Dilfer is weird because one minute he talks about how he was a real bad QB but the next minute he says how mad he was for 15 years they let him go. The comment about how he's not impressed with Rodgers etc I think was a clumsy way of trying to say he found defensive play more impressive cause he's like "what's impressive is what these guys do". But he wasn't saying he was a good QB in 2000 he straight up admits he was bad. Plus I think it was edited and presented in a way to make it sound more controversial than it was. Also that twitter user says the pick 6 in the SB shouldn't have been called back and is wrong. Jamal Lewis got held which is why the ball went right to Jessie Armstead Also when you watch that Patrick Johnson play on the alternate commentary from that SB which is the one that clip is using the guy blames it on Patrick Johnson? Says that Johnson should have cut to the middle of the field so Dilfer had more space to throw it. I don't know how true that is. But Patrick Johnson was maybe worse of a receiver than Dilfer was a QB. We could have drafted Hines Ward instead of him. Kawalimus fucked around with this message at 11:00 on Feb 7, 2023 |
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Feb 7, 2023 10:55
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Timby posted:Remember that Dilfer is in part responsible for that garbage QBR stat that ESPN loves. Wait isn't the official nfl one way dumber?
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Feb 7, 2023 12:08
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SilvergunSuperman posted:Wait isn't the official nfl one way dumber? The ESPN “Total QBR” literally includes clutch timing as a factor, so it’s far, far dumber. The official stat passer rating (Also sometimes called quarterback rating) is old since it’s from the early 70s and has various quirks with it, like how throwing a bunch of passes directly into the dirt gets you a 39 rating (Which has the benefit of making those really low ratings and the occasional 0.0 all the more special), or how a perfect rating is 158.3.
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Feb 7, 2023 12:19
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I don't really see QBR as inherently dumber than EPA, DVOA, PFF grades, or any other opaque metric that gets shared in chart form around here.
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Feb 7, 2023 12:47
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fartknocker posted:The ESPN “Total QBR” literally includes clutch timing as a factor, so it’s far, far dumber. Clutch timing isn't 100% bullshit though, stuff like performance on 3rd and 4th downs and at the end of the game is absolutely meaningful. Assuming that's what's even meant by clutch timing which I'm not sure.
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Feb 7, 2023 12:49
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One of the big issues with QBR is that you're super penalised for interceptions which have a lot of luck in them. So you can have someone like Dak who has a terrible QBR because his receivers keep loving things up and leading to picks or Goff who has a good QBR who keeps chucking into danger but gets away with it. The main thing is that QBR is not very predictive of success which means its kinda useless from an evaluation standpoint
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Feb 7, 2023 12:52
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ESPN and Dilfer started QBR just to poo poo on Tony Romo and he dominated the stat 
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Feb 7, 2023 12:52
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fsif posted:I don't really see QBR as inherently dumber than EPA, DVOA, PFF grades, or any other opaque metric that gets shared in chart form around here. QBR tries to include "clutch", which..yeah. PFF grades are basically just as bad or worse since we know it's just random interns locked in a room with their eyes taped open EPA is just straight up math based off historical scoring data. Whether you like it or not its way less hokey than the other two
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Feb 7, 2023 12:53
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MikeCrotch posted:One of the big issues with QBR is that you're super penalised for interceptions which have a lot of luck in them. So you can have someone like Dak who has a terrible QBR because his receivers keep loving things up and leading to picks or Goff who has a good QBR who keeps chucking into danger but gets away with it. Yeah there are tons of different types of interceptions so you can't lump them all into the same thing. If QBR does that then it's bunk.
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Feb 7, 2023 12:54
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posted:The biggest victim of the Eagles cornerback’s honesty Monday at the Footprint Center was Matt Patricia, his former Lions head coach who just was replaced as Patriots offensive coordinator by Bill O’Brien after a disastrous first year calling offensive plays. The Lions traded Slay to the Eagles in March 2020 and fired Patricia about eight months later. Matt Patricia, the gift that keeps giving
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Feb 7, 2023 12:56
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Really got some doubts about how much Matt knows about the X's and Os given past performance
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Feb 7, 2023 12:58
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Nodoze posted:QBR tries to include "clutch", which..yeah. PFF grades are basically just as bad or worse since we know it's just random interns locked in a room with their eyes taped open I still don't know how EPA is calculated (like, actual formulas) and I don't know why using historical data for a stat invented over 50 years ago in a constantly changing sport is somehow more reputable than one that incorporates a modifier for performance in high leverage situations. They're all dumb.
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Feb 7, 2023 13:03
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I think the bigger problem was his Xual assaulting people.
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Feb 7, 2023 13:06
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Chef Boyardeez Nuts posted:I think the bigger problem was his Xual assaulting people. It's quite impressive how he managed to combine being a total piece of poo poo with also being pretty terrible at his job
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Feb 7, 2023 13:07
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fsif posted:I still don't know how EPA is calculated (like, actual formulas) and I don't know why using historical data for a stat invented over 50 years ago in a constantly changing sport is somehow more reputable than one that incorporates a modifier for performance in high leverage situations. If you wanna go through some code for EPA https://www.nflfastr.com/reference/calculate_expected_points.html Anyway I'm sure you've gotten the gist but the idea that not all yards are created equally and gaining 10 yards on 3rd and 12 doesn't actually help all that much. I don't know, there's a lot of thought that has gone into it, it does seem better than passer rating to me. Also passer rating is not QBR, which I think does include EPA in there but QBR is not an open formula last I knew? e: not arguing that maybe all of these are dumb, but things have changed over time.
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Feb 7, 2023 13:09
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Okay fair enough, I thought EPA was proprietary.
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Feb 7, 2023 13:40
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The main site to chart out EPA/play and CPOE now includes ability to filter out "garbage time" stats, which I think is the whole idea behind QBR's "clutch" factor. This allows you to define garbage time as a win probability outside a percentage window, i.e. set it to 5 if you only want stats with win probabilities between 5-95%. https://rbsdm.com/stats/stats/
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Feb 7, 2023 14:44
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Nodoze posted:Matt Patricia, the gift that keeps giving Miss u Darius
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Feb 7, 2023 14:51
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Nodoze posted:Matt Patricia, the gift that keeps giving Yeah I strongly disagree that he knew his Xs and Os.
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Feb 7, 2023 15:06
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MJeff posted:Yeah I strongly disagree that he knew his Xs and Os. Yeah. He might know them but it certainly does not show on the field
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Feb 7, 2023 15:32
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C-Euro posted:Miss u Darius
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Feb 7, 2023 15:41
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MJeff posted:Yeah I strongly disagree that he knew his Xs and Os. He knows plenty about nonconsensual hugs and kisses
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Feb 7, 2023 15:48
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Belichick was on Brady’s podcast and apparently it was really great hearing him talk about his experience coaching Tom. This excerpt got me hooked. 
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Henrik Zetterberg posted:Is this a shot across the bow of Ja Morant? Definitely.
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