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Thundercracker posted:To be fair Tales from Borderlands 1 was made by TellTale and good. TfB2 was made by Gearbox. The least funny developers in gaming even though they keep loving trying and trying God knows why.
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Collateral posted:Is there a compelling reason why, after 20 years, the qz's are based where the infected are? Joel says the mycelium even grow for miles underground, later he says there are virtually no infected out in the countryside (where all the arable farmland is). Bill and Frank live in an out of town idil, with no infected problems. Seems a touch odd that nobody, in 20 years, saw what they had and thought, hmm I want something like that. I don't know what else is out there, but it makes sense that QZs are the most known feature of post-apocalyptic America. They've been there since the apocalypse, so it's an institution that everyone understands. If you found yourself wandering the wastes fleeing from raiders and the odd infected, you might figure a fascist fortress surrounded by zombies is at least predictably oppressive. Without the structure of a shared society, humans cannot trust each other. Seeing a stranger is going to be terrifying if there's a 50% chance they'll just shoot you on sight, and so you're going to be more and more likely to shoot them on sight first, making the general odds even worse. You need some sort of shared understanding to diffuse this situation. "Laws" or "social norms". Those are really hard to set up and as far as we know FEDRA is the only group with any reach that has them. They still might kill you for bullshit reasons, but their reasons just have to be a bit less bullshit than "I want your stuff" for people to be more safe around them, and around each other under their authority. Neo Rasa posted:To answer your question about the game, that's a yes, the game is very very generally a road trip tour of the different types of communities that would form in the aftermath. It's like if someone said, "I haven't played the game, maybe Joel is going to die next episode?" That's not someone asking you to tell them if Joel dies next episode or not. This show is really cool, and from the perspective of someone who hasn't played the games myself, it's got a wonderful sense of discovery and potential at this point. Who knows what lies around the next corner? Well, some of you all apparently do know. It's not a huge deal, but all else being equal I'd rather that rhetorical question not be answered in this, the non-game player thread, even in spoiler tags. And like, I get the instinct to talk about cool things you know. It was really hard for me to keep quiet about people speculating in the Expanse thread when I had read the books. But especially in works where there's been a lot of effort put into the presentation of a setting, it's worth just letting it unfold.
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LividLiquid posted:Really shows the importance of Mikey Neuman, if what I've heard is true and they really were funny back then. I've not played a Gearbox game since the Half Life expansions, save one night of Borderlands at a LAN party. I loved the Brothers in Arms games, it's a drat shame the last one came out sixteen years ago. 
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Stoatbringer posted:People wearing gasmasks a lot wouldn't be good in the show. Christopher Nolan mushroom movie getting closer.
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Feb 9, 2023 20:43
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Elden Lord Godfrey posted:In fact the imagery was so strong, that in TLOU2, you come across an environment that is inhabited long term by people, but even that place retains scars of past infections by the fungus. That was forcibly burnt out and restored for human habitation. It's a tiny patch of texture and normal mapping, but it was a wonderful worldbuilding detail that I hardly ever see mentioned. Which environment is this? I can't recall.
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Feb 9, 2023 22:23
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Can you people please stop doing the one thing this thread specifically exists to stop, which is people hearing about the game, specifically about the sequel game? How hard is it to just not talk about that poo poo?
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FLIPADELPHIA posted:Can you people please stop doing the one thing this thread specifically exists to stop, which is people hearing about the game, specifically about the sequel game? Yeah come on. If you wanna talk spoilers, whether its directly, behind a spoiler tag, or just "cleverly" alluded to  , just go to the other drat thread come on. Why are you even in posting in this thread if you've played the games? Your posts are gonna be skewed merely by knowing what's coming, like I saw people talking about the gay porn mags scene and being disappointed it wasn't in episode 3 and then whoops it was in episode 4. Maybe just go post in the other thread.
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FLIPADELPHIA posted:Can you people please stop doing the one thing this thread specifically exists to stop, which is people hearing about the game, specifically about the sequel game?
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roomtone posted:mazin said spores aren't in season 1 but he hasn't necessarily removed them entirely from the world so they might show up in s2 I'm sure there was a moment in episode 1 or 2 where Joel has his torch out and seemed to be looking at spores (or maybe just dust) in the beam, but clearly wasn't concerned about them. So maybe it was just a nod to the game, like yes there are some spores about but it's not part of the story we're telling. Or it was just a dusty old room.
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Catching up on posts and I gotta ask: can we not poo poo up the thread this early into the show? We aren't even halfway through the season. As a reminder: Episode 5 will be available TOMORROW, February 10th at 9:00PM EST. There is some kind of sports ball thing going on this Sunday, so episode 5 has been moved up.
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Stoatbringer posted:I'm sure there was a moment in episode 1 or 2 where Joel has his torch out and seemed to be looking at spores (or maybe just dust) in the beam, but clearly wasn't concerned about them. So maybe it was just a nod to the game, like yes there are some spores about but it's not part of the story we're telling. Ellie mentions "giant infected that explode and shoot spores" in episode 2, but it's treated more as an urban legend than a fact. That seems to leave the door open, anyhow.
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Feb 9, 2023 23:17
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Chinston Wurchill posted:Ellie mentions "giant infected that explode and shoot spores" in episode 2, but it's treated more as an urban legend than a fact. That seems to leave the door open, anyhow. There is also something under the floor they are worried about. I'm guessing it's just a big cluster of the cordyceps, which will signal to all the other infected that people are here, if/when someone touches it. Also makes me wonder just how far they are linked and if infected can travel hundreds of miles to come help, or if they need to be somewhere within the city. Part of me is hoping it's some kind of cordyceps Nydus worm and hundreds and hundreds of infected come spewing out of it.
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Chinston Wurchill posted:Ellie mentions "giant infected that explode and shoot spores" in episode 2, but it's treated more as an urban legend than a fact. That seems to leave the door open, anyhow. Maybe that was just a joke for the people that have played the game. I'm sure there were some pretty ridiculous bosses. I did notice a few lingring shots of spores - I remember one in the first episode when Joel is just pushing a dresser to the side in his room to get at a stash. And yeah I think there was another one with torchlight. Maybe they were trying to create some uncertainty.
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ShowTime posted:As a reminder: Episode 5 will be available TOMORROW, February 10th at 9:00PM EST. There is some kind of sports ball thing going on this Sunday, so episode 5 has been moved up. So that's probably going to be Saturday on NOW TV in the UK.
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Stoatbringer posted:So that's probably going to be Saturday on NOW TV in the UK. Unlikely. I just checked and Sky Atlantic is showing it 2am Monday as normal. Bonkers.
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As strong of a case for piracy as I've ever seen
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FLIPADELPHIA posted:Can you people please stop doing the one thing this thread specifically exists to stop, which is people hearing about the game, specifically about the sequel game? Not here to post spoilers, or post at all, really, just was really curious about the thing the original poster was referring to, posted here, and assumed they would respond with spoiler tags. Guess I should have DMed. Didn't mean to ruin thread, sorry.
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stev posted:Unlikely. I just checked and Sky Atlantic is showing it 2am Monday as normal. Oof. I guess new episode havers should use spoiler tags when talking about the Friday airing tomorrow then? At least until the rest of the world gets to see it on Monday.
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Asking why the fungus people like to be around cities is like asking why all the zombies went to the mall
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stev posted:Unlikely. I just checked and Sky Atlantic is showing it 2am Monday as normal. The Independent can also confirm that Sky will show the episode early, with a spokesperson stating: “The episode will be made available Saturday 11 February from 2am on Demand in advance of its linear premiere on Sky Atlantic Monday 13 February 2am as normal. (Further eps will continue as normal – Mondays 2am).”
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GoutPatrol posted:Asking why the fungus people like to be around cities is like asking why all the zombies went to the mall There were bargains to die for?
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My mom's reaction to the turning point of Episode 3: "Oh, my!... Oh good, they're both gay."
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The biggest reason that people aren’t simply leaving nazivilles for literal green acres is: they’ll get picked off and killed or just die because they don’t know how to live off the land, let alone set up ongoing farms. If you had a big group of people maybe then you could survive for awhile, but you’ll need shelter and protection. And rules. And then the nazis.
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Also it's super goony to question why people in this post apocalyptic hellhole aren't making perfect rational decisions about their life situations. They've seen all their loved ones die and society collapse. Everyone has insane trauma as a result. I don't blame them for clinging to whatever shred of stability offered to them, even if it isn't "logical".
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It's been 20 years at this point. Life has been rough. If you are still holding up out in the wilderness, good for you, but I bet 95% of the population wants what little comfort comes with having access to some semblance of a society.
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FLIPADELPHIA posted:Everyone has insane trauma as a result. Do you think fedra school taught Ellie about 9/11?
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zelah posted:Do you think fedra school taught Ellie about 9/11? Or what about teaching them about the covid pandemic? It seems like some of this would overlap with their current situation. Like don't wear masks because you can't give verbal instructions during a firefight.
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covidstomper58 posted:Or what about teaching them about the covid pandemic? It seems like some of this would overlap with their current situation. Like don't wear masks because you can't give verbal instructions during a firefight. COVID never happened in this timeline because by this point China was effectively *Mars* to anyone in North America by 2019-2020. Case in point: Ellie freaking the gently caress out about just being able to see the immediate ~world beyond the wall~ in sunlight for the first time. SARS hit in 2002, MERS in in 2012, which is a year before "Outbreak Day."
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Their society didn't even get the chance to see Family Guy come back from cancellation
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Well thank god they just barely finished Buffy the Vampire Slayer.
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BIG HEADLINE posted:COVID never happened in this timeline because by this point China was effectively *Mars* to anyone in North America by 2019-2020. Case in point: Ellie freaking the gently caress out about just being able to see the immediate ~world beyond the wall~ in sunlight for the first time. Makes sense, you couldn't imagine half of this nonsense happening if BSG was never made and people had a chance to watch it.
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2003 illiterate LOTR enjoyer: but that’s not fair…
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FLIPADELPHIA posted:Also it's super goony to question why people in this post apocalyptic hellhole aren't making perfect rational decisions about their life situations. They've seen all their loved ones die and society collapse. Everyone has insane trauma as a result. I don't blame them for clinging to whatever shred of stability offered to them, even if it isn't "logical". I thought Bryan's desperate "I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO..." as he was dying was the most genuine, believable part of his panicked plea for mercy. I can totally buy that if you have a group consisting of young kids like Bryan, who grew up in a world where society is basically over, and the other half are adults who grew up learning to live in our world with grocery stores and voting and a postal system and gas stations, then basically nobody would have any idea what the gently caress to do. Like, Kathleen is the best leader they can find in Kansas City. The world is a massive shitshow and people don't know how to handle that.
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BIG HEADLINE posted:SARS hit in 2002, MERS in in 2012, which is a year before "Outbreak Day." In the game, yeah. In the show, the outbreak starts in September 2003. In the real timeline, SARS wasn’t contained till 2004. We could speculate that in the show’s timeline, it breaks containment, but with the vast population decline and disruption brought by the cordyceps pandemic, it was unable to sustain itself.
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The bit in Jakarta with the mycologist has references to SARS in the background. I remember there being a poster that references a vaccine for SARS. I don't think a SARS 1 vaccine ever made it out of animal trials before the pandemic fizzled out on it's own. (By successful non-pharmaceutical interventions like masking and contact tracing.) When watching the episode I wasn't sure if that was a mistake, or a deliberate choice. spankmeister fucked around with this message at 08:08 on Feb 10, 2023 |
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Part of the reason we had COVID vaccines so "quickly" is that SARS and MERS opened the door to mRNA vaccine research. When both viruses fizzled out instead of becoming widespread, they shelved the research because it was - at the time - too costly to continue for no reason. Also, the mycologist and epidemiologist were right about there being "no medicine." The strongest anti-fungal medications we have give compounding pharmacies nightmares even for single use cases and the compounds themselves make chemotherapy drugs look like homeopathic remedies - there's a pharmacist in the PYF chem thread who talked about preparing it once a while back. The medicines used to combat dangerous fungal infections are as dangerous to patients as they are to the fungi they're trying to kill.
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BIG HEADLINE posted:..and the compounds themselves make chemotherapy drugs look like homeopathic remedies - there's a pharmacist in the PYF chem thread who talked about preparing it once a while back. The medicines used to combat dangerous fungal infections are as dangerous to patients as they are to the fungi they're trying to kill.  What makes fungi so special? Goddamn.
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Sentinel Red posted:
Their “flesh” is extremely similar to ours (and other animals) so it’s hard to make stuff that only targets it.
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Sentinel Red posted:
It's a kingdom unto itself
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