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Honestly games are so fast and required buy-in is so small that I can't even get mad when people destroy me, I wish more battle royal games were this fast.
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Mendrian posted:Honestly games are so fast and required buy-in is so small that I can't even get mad when people destroy me, I wish more battle royal games were this fast. This is absolutely the best thing about the game.
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# ? Feb 11, 2023 16:14 |
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How do you make any progress in this game just starting out? I love the idea behind it, but man I can't make any progress. My gf and I played about 10 matches, and I don't think any lasted more than 5 minutes. Anytime we ran into other players, they would just install destroy us. We have just staring gear, but I guess they want our underwears? Do we just start off with running from everything, shutting doors behind us, find loot and try and make an early exit?
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# ? Feb 11, 2023 18:13 |
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Harminoff posted:How do you make any progress in this game just starting out? I love the idea behind it, but man I can't make any progress. Pretty much, but some classes are WAY harder to start with others in my experience. Fighters have the easiest start imo.
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# ? Feb 11, 2023 18:17 |
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Harminoff posted:How do you make any progress in this game just starting out? I love the idea behind it, but man I can't make any progress. Keep an eye on how many people died. Once more folks are kicking the buckets start playing more cautiously. If you end up being the last player standing, you just have to survive and find a portal. That first escape will feel really good. Also, you get exp for killing stuff, you just get a ton more for escaping.
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# ? Feb 11, 2023 18:48 |
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Harminoff posted:How do you make any progress in this game just starting out? I love the idea behind it, but man I can't make any progress. Are either of you playing a Cleric? Clerics make PvE much easier especially in a party, they arent' great for PvP but if your strategy is to run away anyhow you really just want to get good at killing skeletons and escaping. Clerics are really good at recovering from mistakes. Wizard/Fighter are also fun.
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# ? Feb 11, 2023 18:53 |
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A lot of it is learning the whens, whos, and hows of engaging enemy players based on location and their classes. I've never had better than a white weapon in two playtests and 99 percent of the time I'm running a grey felling and was running that and starter everything else in that game last night where I had 8 kills. They go after you even though you're only in starter gear because 1. killing players is the most fun 2. you may have loot on ya and 3. fewer people to take portals later on.
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# ? Feb 11, 2023 18:56 |
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Harminoff posted:How do you make any progress in this game just starting out? I love the idea behind it, but man I can't make any progress. Focus on killing mobs and getting your level up. Once you hit level 5 you unlock your second perk slot which starts to make things easier. Once you're level 20 you'll have all 4 perk slots. Edit: my first successful escape happened after like 6 hours of playing. Admittedly I'm bad at vidya games I also fell behind my group because I bounced between classes to try them while they focused on just one.
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# ? Feb 11, 2023 19:41 |
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Rogue is fun I love the smoke bomb
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# ? Feb 11, 2023 20:16 |
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Wizard and rogue are probably the hardest to start off solo with, just lack of health either having to charge up your spells while mobs or players are at a distance or get in really really close and hope you're hitting head and or neck all the time. WYYYYZZZAAARRRDDD: Fireball is fun as gently caress, you can move and shoot it has some aoe fire/explosion damage. Magic Missile is your other main way to kill from a distance, BUT you have to be standing still to have it shoot a bunch of ki balls which does suuuuuck when you're in a pinch aince that means you're gonna have to pray you started hitting them on the head before they get close enough to hit you. Haste is fun especially to try and run away, I forget if the spell to buff your and your party's weapon is still there, Shock sucks rear end don't ever use it, Chain Lighting is awesome but can also hit you and your mates so unless you're some kind of solo chaos mage probably not a good idea to cast it unless you're looking into a room that has nothing but enemies trying to kill one another. Lightning strike requires you to see the future for it to hit or you bait people to come around a corner cause it has a 4 second delay. Find a crystal ball and a poo poo rondel dagger so you can actually do some damage instead of relying on your poo poo Gandarf staff.
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# ? Feb 11, 2023 20:51 |
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Jiro posted:Wizard and rogue are probably the hardest to start off solo with Yes but also no, once you get the hang of the starter dagger and the mob attack timing it becomes trivial to headshot them and then back up before they can swing again. Rogues are probably tied with fighters for how easy it is to clear goblins solo. In terms of starter Rogue skills, take the "10 steps when Hidden" perk immediately and your survivability will go up dramatically. Being able to hide and then take ten careful steps towards the nearest door is often the difference between life and death, and makes it easy to start getting the hang of the map and such without constantly dying.
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# ? Feb 11, 2023 21:07 |
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Jiro posted:Wizard and rogue are probably the hardest to start off solo with, just lack of health either having to charge up your spells while mobs or players are at a distance or get in really really close and hope you're hitting head and or neck all the time. My only issue with this post is that when you say shock, I imagine Zap. Which gets 2x magic damage scaling and is hitscan. And also casts a billion times. 10/10 would recommend.
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# ? Feb 11, 2023 21:13 |
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chain lightning can chain off corpses, by the way, which can lead to some sneaky kills
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# ? Feb 11, 2023 21:22 |
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This game is pretty fun. Rogue is pretty rough without any way to recover from my mistakes but it felt so good escaping from the goblin caves for the first time.
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# ? Feb 11, 2023 23:55 |
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You recover health as a rogue by killing a ranger for his starting campfire, hth
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# ? Feb 12, 2023 00:01 |
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Solo, playing ratrogue and memorizing where the locked/golden chests are (not hard because the coliseum map isn't in so there's less to memorize), playing ranger and kiting your way to the second floor solo for decent gear, playing fighter and doing the same as ranger since you can equip a bow, playing cleric and nuking mobs of undead. All good ways to play Haven't played enough barb to know what their deal is, but i've been giving solo wizard a run this patch and it really needs a couple of things to function: spellbook, since it casts spells from your hand and has the lowest -move speed penalty, perks so you can actually not die if something runs at you, and awareness of what the other classes are capable of
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# ? Feb 12, 2023 00:29 |
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It can not be said enough how much the spell book increases cast speed, too. Like, it's insane. This opinion comes from my personal experience on cleric, but holy hell it's almost double.
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# ? Feb 12, 2023 02:35 |
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What I'm hearing is - Quarterstaff slot1, Mace+Book slot2? Working my way up the cleric levels, and hoping they turn on the skilltree soon.
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# ? Feb 12, 2023 03:59 |
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book is a 2-hander
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# ? Feb 12, 2023 04:31 |
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This game loving owns I have played it literally all day
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# ? Feb 12, 2023 06:56 |
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Triple Ranger is very dumb and very fun Triple quickshot just erasing people
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# ? Feb 12, 2023 08:47 |
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I didn't really like the quarterstaff on cleric, but what do I know. I'm terrible at this game. Managed to make it out of goblin caverns thanks to a friendly croucher. Had another one where I was last alive but the portals were in the skeletal champion room. Had another one where I was one of two and the other guy decided I needed to die. So frustrating but I love this game!!!!
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# ? Feb 12, 2023 09:03 |
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skeletal champ water pool room is hosed because there's a lot of obstacles and like, at least 4 other potential enemy spawns besides the champ fighting 1 champ by himself is fine but actually full clearing that room requires really slow play and usually just isn't practical so I usually just sneak through it if need be
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# ? Feb 12, 2023 09:51 |
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mistakes were made https://streamable.com/9akn01
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# ? Feb 12, 2023 10:21 |
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Trade chat is so chaotic, but it's fun to browse, and I'm usually swimming in money now that I can pretty consistently extract from goblin caves so I can afford to splurge on some nice gear here and there. I feel like you could make some decent money flipping weapons and gear from the people who are just trying to offload loot quickly, even with the 15 gold fee.
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# ? Feb 12, 2023 15:53 |
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Herstory Begins Now posted:mistakes were made Lol, oops.
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# ? Feb 12, 2023 15:58 |
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The gameplay loop is ok so far, but I wish it populated maps with people similar in level. It is not really that fun to come across a team of 3 people in advanced gear when I am a level 1 in the starting gear. I have played for a few hours and never even seen a portal. I can survive a decent amount of time when portals are spawning and do well in PvE, but eventually I will come across someone with much better gear or a team and get vaporized.
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Pain of Mind posted:The gameplay loop is ok so far, but I wish it populated maps with people similar in level. It is not really that fun to come across a team of 3 people in advanced gear when I am a level 1 in the starting gear. I have played for a few hours and never even seen a portal. I can survive a decent amount of time when portals are spawning and do well in PvE, but eventually I will come across someone with much better gear or a team and get vaporized. The game is extremely daunting when you're first starting out - I was bitching and moaning when some friends got me playing during the last playtest because everything seemed so impossible and now we effortlessly clear rooms. I don't think we successfully escaped for awhile. By the end of the playtest I was holding my own pretty well doing some solo runs when nobody was around to play.
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# ? Feb 12, 2023 16:56 |
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They've really nailed the feeling of being a murder hobo in this
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# ? Feb 12, 2023 17:30 |
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Groovelord Neato posted:The game is extremely daunting when you're first starting out - I was bitching and moaning when some friends got me playing during the last playtest because everything seemed so impossible and now we effortlessly clear rooms. I don't think we successfully escaped for awhile. By the end of the playtest I was holding my own pretty well doing some solo runs when nobody was around to play. Like everything else, complaining about it lead to immediate results, and final got an escape on the goblin one. I don't really like the goblin map that much compared to the other one, but the people there are much less aggressive. At the end I ended up stuck in a little alcove bubble that was not in the death zone stuff, but was able to make a run through it while being chased by a ton of skeletons and goblins and was able to open a portal before the AI caused some goblins to swing.
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# ? Feb 12, 2023 18:02 |
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Pain of Mind posted:Like everything else, complaining about it lead to immediate results, and final got an escape on the goblin one. I don't really like the goblin map that much compared to the other one, but the people there are much less aggressive. At the end I ended up stuck in a little alcove bubble that was not in the death zone stuff, but was able to make a run through it while being chased by a ton of skeletons and goblins and was able to open a portal before the AI caused some goblins to swing. The major issue I have with the goblin tunnels is that the PvE is very in-your-face right from spawn and it makes it hard for some classes to clear enough space to be effective. Granted, that's probably the point and you need to have it densely populated with enemies for its size, it's just not as breathable.
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# ? Feb 12, 2023 18:07 |
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Harminoff posted:How do you make any progress in this game just starting out? I love the idea behind it, but man I can't make any progress. This was my entire first day or so with the game. Keep dying, and eventually you will find you're not dying. Only engage mobs you know you can fight without taking damage, avoid groups of players.
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# ? Feb 12, 2023 18:26 |
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There's still eventually supposed to be a floor 1 forest area that'll basically be useful mostly to help people gather basic stuff like bandages/pots eventually right?
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# ? Feb 12, 2023 18:32 |
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The Huge Manatee posted:This was my entire first day or so with the game. Keep dying, and eventually you will find you're not dying. It's also worth noting that 'making progress' can be deceptive. Better gear definitely helps and is a fun incentive to escape but I've seen good players kill geared opponents with starter items. It's better to adopt an easy come easy go thought process imho.
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# ? Feb 12, 2023 19:04 |
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SDF via Discord" posted:@everyone, Thank you for enjoying Dark and Darker. Extended the playtest by 3 days. I'm not complaining. This game has definitely grabbed me in a way Tarkov couldn't. I'm loving the gameplay loop for this. Even if it's extremely frustrating at times. My biggest complaint is the weird stutter that almost feels like you're lagging, or getting stuck on geometry. The second is a twofer. I loathe the skeleton archers and thier magic arrows that bend around corners and the spiders that I can never freaking hit and are constantly bouncing me around.
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# ? Feb 12, 2023 19:22 |
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I feel solo would be more fun at higher levels but Threes are where it's at right now for me. Also remember when you post an lfg message in the Gathering Hall you have to wait 9,000 seconds until you can post another. Or just swap characters and it resets the timer. "Archer lvl 6 lfg chill sesh mics" gets me 2-3 invites almost immediately everytime
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# ? Feb 12, 2023 19:28 |
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with another 3 days to play this I am probably going to get all classes to 20 because I am dangerously addicted to this game
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# ? Feb 12, 2023 19:45 |
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Join the discord on the first page and hop in a voice channel and join a group. Playing with goons is fun, mostly.
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# ? Feb 12, 2023 20:31 |
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IronicDongz posted:skeletal champ water pool room is hosed because there's a lot of obstacles and like, at least 4 other potential enemy spawns besides the champ this is fine I did clear it out(and the other champ spawn) but it absolutely was not worth the time, if anyone else got involved during this I would've stood no chance
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# ? Feb 12, 2023 21:06 |
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# ? Jun 5, 2024 03:58 |
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Solo is real hard but I've been having a good time as a cleric+fighter combo with my friend. I'm terrible at aiming but being able to heal him (and having an aoe anti-undead skill) after a combat has helped our survivability a lot and we're getting better at getting at least one of us extracted semi-regularly. Game's fun, I wishlisted it, I'm glad they're extending the playtest.
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