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https://twitter.com/RnaudBertrand/status/1623313555901800448 lol Mark
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“We will bring an end to it,” Biden said. “I promise you. We will be able to do it.”
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Feb 8, 2023 19:53
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Tanks are really loving heavy.
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Feb 8, 2023 19:59
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I like this exchange from episode 361: Murphy: under existing laws, the CIA cannot work thru a proxy force and just sort of wash their hands clean of it... the CIA has to have some command and control over these elements. They can't just leave it to a third party and wash their hands of it. Ames: really? that's interesting because they do that all the– or at least did that all the time. I don't knopw. Maybe they don't anymore. but, aren't they kinda famous for doing stuff like that? or no? Murphy: it certainly has happened in the past and I think there is some caution about it
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Feb 9, 2023 00:03
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Ya that guy, like all of their former troop guests, sucked rear end
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they really need to just have on more posters from the facebook group
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he seemed to know the direct subject matter (special forces psychos and their crimes*) pretty well but he also said "moderate rebels" completely unironically. *e: crimes at ft. hood not crimes on deployment Clark Nova has issued a correction as of 00:13 on Feb 9, 2023 |
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Seth Harper was alright for a troop. Otherwise I think it's underappreciated how much editing they do to undouche some of their guests. Couldn't happen to Carl Zha
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Feb 9, 2023 12:32
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i appreciate that they have various ideologically oriented people on they had that lady (vlahos?) from the american conservative at one point. they had the igbo supremacist lady on. it wouldn't shock me if they got peter hitchens on the podcast at some point. i enjoy them being this eclectic
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Feb 9, 2023 12:51
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genericnick posted:Seth Harper was alright for a troop. 
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net work error posted:Tanks are really loving heavy. I did appreciate the comment that Challenger is so heavily armored because people who matter in the UK still send their kids to be armor officers.
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V. Illych L. posted:i appreciate that they have various ideologically oriented people on ehhhhhh they didn't push back on the recent guest other than some "hrmm ok"s so i think some of the more niche guests can be harmful. if they won't turn an interview on its head because of nato or w/e i don't trust their editorial bent elsewhere. biafra guest is my prime example since it was clear they were leaning on her to provide info
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good ep with ben aris but kinda laughing at his callousness of sanctions that if they had cut russia's gas and oil revenue there would be tumults, government would collapse, total chaos then they would make a deal
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Honest Thief posted:good ep with ben aris but kinda laughing at his callousness of sanctions that if they had cut russia's gas and oil revenue there would be tumults, government would collapse, total chaos then they would make a deal i remember my own mindset at the time. i remember being in favour of the economic warfare efforts specifically because i reckoned that the damage would be less than the damage of a continued war; i had been persuaded that the war could be ended by this effect, which would be short and painful but would almost certainly not end in a nuclear war. idk if i stand by that reasoning now, but if that's the calculus it makes sense that you have to embrace this sort of callousness for a greater good of some kind. i certainly feel a little mad now that everyone's quietly dropped the actual objective of the sanctions; critical discussion seems to have completely evaporated.
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V. Illych L. posted:i remember my own mindset at the time. i remember being in favour of the economic warfare efforts specifically because i reckoned that the damage would be less than the damage of a continued war; i had been persuaded that the war could be ended by this effect, which would be short and painful but would almost certainly not end in a nuclear war. yeah i can sympathize with it a lot, because short of going on a all out war what else you do in the EU's position, esp after a early peace deal seems to have been blocked, which is something I thought Ben would reflect on but he just seems to gloss over
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I mean he had a speculative take that Boris Johnson was the primary mover who scotched them for domestic political purposes. Agree that he does seem pretty guarded in general, though, I get the sense that he wants to come on to say some specific things he feels confident about and puckers at the juicer questions. edit: regarding Nord Stream sabotage, I was hoping he would speculate on the role of western petroleum companies who, very predictably, made out HUGE. Doesn't mean they leaned on anybody to make it happen, but they definitely have successfully leaned on governments/militaries for much lower stakes. pangstrom has issued a correction as of 15:10 on Feb 12, 2023 |
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They should get Hersh on imo
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V. Illych L. posted:i remember my own mindset at the time. i remember being in favour of the economic warfare efforts specifically because i reckoned that the damage would be less than the damage of a continued war; i had been persuaded that the war could be ended by this effect, which would be short and painful but would almost certainly not end in a nuclear war. the actual objective of sanctions is to punish countries that don't act servile enough towards the west, hth
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Cerebral Bore posted:the actual objective of sanctions is to punish countries that don't act servile enough towards the west, hth The ALAB episodes on sanctions were great https://www.alabseries.com/episodes/episode-7-the-modern-day-siege
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Honest Thief posted:yeah i can sympathize with it a lot, because short of going on a all out war what else you do in the EU's position, esp after a early peace deal seems to have been blocked, which is something I thought Ben would reflect on but he just seems to gloss over They could have told the uk and us to get hosed and take a third go at Minsk instead of being lil bitches
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Feb 12, 2023 15:40
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genericnick posted:They should get Hersh on imo
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genericnick posted:They should get Hersh on imo They did
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lol i just came to post that
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Feb 12, 2023 21:40
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da hersh
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genericnick posted:They should get Hersh on imo a single anonymous source said they should get hersh on 
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Honest Thief posted:good ep with ben aris but kinda laughing at his callousness of sanctions that if they had cut russia's gas and oil revenue there would be tumults, government would collapse, total chaos then they would make a deal he seemed like he had lib tendencies yah
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drat that was some high octane interviewing a coup to get hersh and a coup to get hersh to talk about how he found and validated some of his sources
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Spime Wrangler posted:drat that was some high octane interviewing and a coup to have hersh poo poo on bellingcat! you know mark and john got a huge kick out of that
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genericnick posted:They should get Hersh on imo 
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i say swears online posted:ehhhhhh have they really pushed back on anyone though? doesn't seem like their style really. the worst was when they had some professor on who was basically lecturing them and mark was just getting more and more annoyed
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Feb 12, 2023 23:41
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hersh seems like an extremely intense guy, is my main take-away from that interview
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what an absolute ball buster lmao 5/5 interview
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genericnick posted:They should get Hersh on imo
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imo change the title so people know they're interviewing hersh
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Mark sheepishly walking back initial claims of the russian invasion and non-stop apologizing about how wrong he was, then he overcorrects and believes every single pro-ukraine/anti-russia narrative to be shat out by the media including believing the russians bombing their own pipeline and now Sy Hersh comes around drops a bombshell lol dude can't catch a break and his confidence must be in shambles by now
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yellowcar posted:Mark sheepishly walking back initial claims of the russian invasion and non-stop apologizing about how wrong he was, then he overcorrects and believes every single pro-ukraine/anti-russia narrative to be shat out by the media including believing the russians bombing their own pipeline and now Sy Hersh comes around drops a bombshell Not really. He gave good reasons why he thought Russia benefited most and was open to other viewpoints and never dug his heels in about his opinions
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paul_soccer12 posted:Not really. He gave good reasons why he thought Russia benefited most and was open to other viewpoints and never dug his heels in about his opinions that's what i mean, he feels like he needs to start giving natsec/pro-nato narratives a consideration no matter how absurd they are because he got burned and embarrassed the one time so his opinion is always wavering now not really an indictment of Mark or anything just a really funny observation
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You can really see why other American journalists don’t like Hersh. That interview was a breath of fresh air.
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Yeah Mark gave like the strongest "gun to my head" disclaimer. I thought he was wrong at the time but anyone can get in the weeds sometimes and he was admitting in real time he was in the weeds. Echoing that Sy Hersh is triple threat cantankerous, like rubber first meeting the road cantankerous, lapping second place cantankerous, and drifting through the final corner on your rims cantankerous.
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