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Mulaney Power Move posted:Also calling it now: Geordie dies I'm gonna say Beverly, Geordi, Deanna, Raffi, Seven of Nine and Worf all die because the showrunner for Picard is apparently friends with and a fan of a bunch of white supremacist misogynist chuds, so he's gonna kill all the women and black people on the show to make them happy.
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nine-gear crow posted:I'm gonna say Beverly, Geordi, Deanna, Raffi, Seven of Nine and Worf all die because the showrunner for Picard is apparently friends with and fans of a bunch of white supremacist misogynist chuds, so he's gonna kill all the women and black people on the show to make them happy. I was unaware of this, can you tell me more/direct me to more information about it
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Cthulu Carl posted:Frakes would be down for it because he wanted Soren to be played by a male actor: Every story I here about Frakes just makes him seem like the chiliest dude. Pretty sure if the show had been Riker not Picard, and Frankes had sway instead of Stewart it would of been far better for it. At the very least their would of been a lot more tormbone.
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Tighclops posted:I was unaware of this, can you tell me more/direct me to more information about it Big sames!
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dr_rat posted:Every story I here about Frakes just makes him seem like the chiliest dude. Pretty sure if the show had been Riker not Picard, and Frankes had sway instead of Stewart it would of been far better for it. A lot more tromboning for sho I really don't understand jettisoning story threads between one season, or movie, and the next. These days entire seasons and trilogies are conceived together, yet Star Trek is managing to be muddled, incoherent and poorly written. The Borg queen walking around LA in a red dress singing to get a dopamine hit and drinking batteries like My Stepmother is an Alien is just... bizarre. I've never used psychedelic drugs but the showrunners are clearly junkies. WattsvilleBlues fucked around with this message at 23:49 on Feb 15, 2023 |
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Tighclops posted:I was unaware of this, can you tell me more/direct me to more information about it Terry Matalas, the showrunner for Picard Season 3 and the first couple of episodes of Season 2 before he hosed off into a closet to write all of Season 3 himself and was never seen again, is really buddy-buddy close, like simperingly close, friends with and fans of at least two known big name chuds, Robert Meyer Burnett and Gary Beuchler aka "Nerdrotic", and has been trying to woo them endlessly in the run up to tonight's premiere of Season 3 to get glowing praise out of them despite them having a long history of hating modern Star Trek, women, people of colour and LGBT+ people. https://twitter.com/TerryMatalas You can see on his Twitter account literally today that Matalas was retweeting poo poo from Nerdrotic in a cloying "please like me racist daddy" appeal to Beuchler's crusty bigoted rear end.
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Oh, interesting. I know what kind of stereotypical one-name villain we'll be getting . "And that's when I AWOKE...to the hypocrisy of the Federation, Pee-card." (extremely feeble sounding patrick stewart voice) "You uh-are-woke to the darkness, Vadic...your heart has grown black"
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nine-gear crow posted:Terry Matalas, the showrunner for Picard Season 3 and the first couple of episodes of Season 2 before he hosed off into a closet to write all of Season 3 himself and was never seen again, is really buddy-buddy close, like simperingly close, friends with and fans of at least two known big name chuds, Robert Meyer Burnett and Gary Beuchler aka "Nerdrotic", and has been trying to woo them endlessly in the run up to tonight's premiere of Season 3 to get glowing praise out of them despite them having a long history of hating modern Star Trek, women, people of colour and LGBT+ people. LMAO jesus gently caress, thanks for the info. That is loving grim.
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HD DAD posted:I would argue Tuvok is showing plenty of emotion - it’s just that it’s seething rage and annoyance at all times. Same with T’Pol, whose line reads pretty much always had an undercurrent of an exasperated “jesus christ I’m on a ship full of idiots”. I liked T’Pol calling humans idiots because she did then have a character arc and eventually fell for one
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nine-gear crow posted:Terry Matalas, the showrunner for Picard Season 3 and the first couple of episodes of Season 2 before he hosed off into a closet to write all of Season 3 himself and was never seen again, is really buddy-buddy close, like simperingly close, friends with and fans of at least two known big name chuds, Robert Meyer Burnett and Gary Beuchler aka "Nerdrotic", and has been trying to woo them endlessly in the run up to tonight's premiere of Season 3 to get glowing praise out of them despite them having a long history of hating modern Star Trek, women, people of colour and LGBT+ people. and the other shoe drops
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PostNouveau posted:Started watching TOS from the start, and I think (so far, only like 4 episodes in so maybe it changes a lot) Nemoy's interpretation of Vulcans is much better than anyone who followed. Spock talks about making decisions based on logic, not emotions, but his line reads still have emotion to them. Everyone else who plays Vulcans in later shows plays them like they're basically robots and it's boring as gently caress (looking at you Tuvok). Spock is only half vulcan. That's kinda the whole point. And vulcans aren't emotionless, they just control their emotions to a degree humans mostly find impossible. As mentioned, Tuvok and T'Pol both play full vulcans and are able to show those in check emotions in very small ways, which makes their emoting much stronger when they do it. Actually the snooty vulcan captain who thinks humans should be locked back up on their planet in Enterprise was good about that too. Enterprise weirdly has a lot of good vulcan characterization.
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Tighclops posted:LMAO jesus gently caress, thanks for the info. That is loving grim. McSpanky posted:and the other shoe drops I've heard it rumored that Matalas might be a goon like Lower Decks' Mike McMahon is/was, and if he is  gently caress him into the next universe.
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PostNouveau posted:Started watching TOS from the start, and I think (so far, only like 4 episodes in so maybe it changes a lot) Nemoy's interpretation of Vulcans is much better than anyone who followed. Spock talks about making decisions based on logic, not emotions, but his line reads still have emotion to them. Everyone else who plays Vulcans in later shows plays them like they're basically robots and it's boring as gently caress (looking at you Tuvok). Bit part Vulcans maybe, but Tuvok, T'pol, even that rear end in a top hat from Take Me Out to the Holosuite aren't just robots. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LTkmvBSSLs
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WattsvilleBlues posted:I've never used psychedelic drugs but the showrunners are clearly junkies. Nah, if the writers and show runners were just constantly tripping on psychedelic it would of been a lot different show. Very possibly still terrible, but at least possibly interestingly so. I mean if we had gotten a Zardoz out of it, may not of been good Trek but at least it would of been worth a good laugh: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSjCkISrJfQ Seems more just a mix of thinking grimdark always equals quality and no one knowing what the fucks going on behind the scenes.
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FlamingLiberal posted:I’m still on record that the Picard version of ‘Seven’ has no relation to the one on Voyager. They are almost entirely different characters. Jeri Ryan actually talked about this in an interview. When she first got her scripts for season 1 she panicked because she couldn't find Seven's voice in there at all. She ended up figuring out how to approach it talking with Jonathan Del Arco (Hugh) and his experiences as a closeted gay man, and formulated this idea that she had to normalise in the face of society after getting back to the Alpha Quadrant and build up a more socially acceptable facade to survive. There's a few neat bits (in the first ep of season 2 in particular) where at moments of high stress she deliberately reverts Seven back towards the way she was played on Voyager.
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Dabir posted:Bit part Vulcans maybe, but Tuvok, T'pol, even that rear end in a top hat from Take Me Out to the Holosuite aren't just robots. HUU MONS
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in a better show, picard and seven being borg-induced trauma buds could have been a neat idea. they're both good actors and borg poo poo is always a ratings spike. in picard, any good idea is there by accident and quickly removed as soon as someone notices.
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I recently started binge watching DS9 from scratch and am halfway through the series. Does Morn ever get his own episode or should I stop wasting my time?
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Call Your Grandma posted:I recently started binge watching DS9 from scratch and am halfway through the series. Does Morn ever get his own episode or should I stop wasting my time? There's a episode called Who Mourns For Morn?, if that answers your question.
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:in a better show, picard and seven being borg-induced trauma buds could have been a neat idea. they're both good actors and borg poo poo is always a ratings spike. (pokes head out of trashcan in picard show writers room) They know everything about each other and read each others' minds because they were both borgs once.
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MikeJF posted:Jeri Ryan actually talked about this in an interview. When she first got her scripts for season 1 she panicked because she couldn't find Seven's voice in there at all. She ended up figuring out how to approach it talking with Jonathan Del Arco (Hugh) and his experiences as a closeted gay man, and formulated this idea that she had to normalise in the face of society after getting back to the Alpha Quadrant and build up a more socially acceptable facade to survive. There's a few neat bits (in the first ep of season 2 in particular) where at moments of high stress she deliberately reverts Seven back towards the way she was played on Voyager.
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MikeJF posted:From episode 10 on they're being pursued by the real Admiral Janeway in a slipstream capable replica of the USS Dauntless. "The real me is hunting us with a quantum slipstream Dauntless-class starship? Good luck with that."
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:"The real me is hunting us with a quantum slipstream Dauntless-class starship? Good luck with that." I love how Holo Janeway is just like "Aw, you're all fuuuuucked  " with that quote.
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Holo Janeway was really rad. Hell admiral Janeway was really rad. Basically prodigy is good.
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CainFortea posted:Holo Janeway was really rad. Prodigy is probably the best Modern Trek show with Strange New Worlds and Lower Decks in a knife fight for second place. Picard gets a participation ribbon that says "You Almost Tried" on it, and Discovery... I paused for a solid minute trying to think of ways to finish that sentence, so I'll just leave the thought unfinished.
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I'd put LD at the top spot, with SNW and Prodigy fighting for second. LD manages to thread the needle with absurdist humor that still gets what trek is
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nine-gear crow posted:Prodigy is probably the best Modern Trek show with Strange New Worlds and Lower Decks in a knife fight for second place. Picard gets a participation ribbon that says "You Almost Tried" on it, and Discovery... I paused for a solid minute trying to think of ways to finish that sentence, so I'll just leave the thought unfinished. Drove all of them to the competition then fell asleep in the car?
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Twincityhacker posted:Drove all of them to the competition then fell asleep in the car? Yeah, that works really well. There'd be no LDS, SNW and PRO without Discovery, but it is one real shitass deadbeat parent.
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Tighclops posted:If anything it's been really funny watching the abrupt shift from Discovery's initial launch into producing stuff that people who liked Star Trek might actually enjoy and fanservicey mush It Mr. Magoo'd its way to giving us three great Star Trek shows and one absolutely hilarious for all the wrong reasons Star Trek-ish show while never rising itself beyond the blistering heights of "Oh, it still exists? Wow."
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MikeJF posted:Jeri Ryan actually talked about this in an interview. When she first got her scripts for season 1 she panicked because she couldn't find Seven's voice in there at all. She ended up figuring out how to approach it talking with Jonathan Del Arco (Hugh) and his experiences as a closeted gay man, and formulated this idea that she had to normalise in the face of society after getting back to the Alpha Quadrant and build up a more socially acceptable facade to survive. There's a few neat bits (in the first ep of season 2 in particular) where at moments of high stress she deliberately reverts Seven back towards the way she was played on Voyager. Well good for her but also yikes considering how many people Seven murders in a bar shooting.
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The only good thing about Seven and Raffi is that it retroactively validates the fact that Seven had way more sexual tension with Janeway than she did with any of the men.
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:the turbolift dimension will always be funny. Funny? Funny??? Do you have any idea how many turbolift technicians have been lost in that dimension on what was meant to be a quick mantince job, never be to be seen again???? Just go a head and tell their deeply bereaved loved ones you think it's funny!!!!!
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MikeJF posted:The only good thing about Seven and Raffi is that it retroactively validates the fact that Seven had way more sexual tension with Janeway than she did with any of the men. Or that Chakotay was so bad for her it literally turned her gay.
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nine-gear crow posted:Or that Chakotay was so bad for her it literally turned her gay. I choose that to be the canon explanation.
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