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NmareBfly posted:Thinking of child zombies, it's a little weird to me that ol' cordy appears to arrest aging in addition to all the other things it does. Makes sense in other zombie media because they're... dead but here I'd think the body itself would keep on sprouting. 28 days later zombies die of starvation as they are living humans driven mad by the virus.
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Caught up to the latest one. Really good episode until it got to the climax, which may compete with GOT season 5 in how dumb it was. The pre-fight monologue was cringey, the action was dumb chaos where it felt like the only reason our characters survived the encounter was due to plot armor, and what the gently caress was with the villain’s hesitation at the end? You want to shoot them, shoot them! And then Ellie’s “healing blood” scene happened and I cried. And Harry’s distraught at the end, like he realized everything that he did and all the harm that came from it was in vain, and now he exists in a world he cannot live in, was heartbreaking. All in all a good episode. Did they get a guest studio to work on that fight though? Why was it so dumb? What the gently caress?
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Feb 16, 2023 18:51
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What is even keeping them alive if they're underground and not eating?
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NmareBfly posted:Thinking of child zombies, it's a little weird to me that ol' cordy appears to arrest aging in addition to all the other things it does. Makes sense in other zombie media because they're... dead but here I'd think the body itself would keep on sprouting. I don't know the actual answer but surely the child Clicker could've been infected a year ago when she was a slightly younger child.
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Feb 16, 2023 19:00
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That’s right. There was a weird zombie M3gan child was in that battle too! What a really loving odd climax. Did they have James Wan write and direct it?
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Feb 16, 2023 19:03
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Automata 10 Pack posted:Also Kathleen’s “sympathetic revenge towards a character we like” angle was also GAME STUFF Yo wrong thread
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Feb 16, 2023 19:05
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stev posted:Yo wrong thread I would like to say that as someone who is interested in comparisons to what happened in the games, I did check out the spoiler thread and the very first post contains an unmarked spoiler for a major event in the second game. so thanks guys
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Feb 16, 2023 19:18
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Like surely there can be a middle ground between "no game discussion period, want to discuss changes in adaptation, gently caress you" and "unmarked spoilers all the time for everything, gently caress you."
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Feb 16, 2023 19:22
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Open Source Idiom posted:Yeah, like I said, that read's been rejected. Pondsmith places the blame on the corrosive effect of cybernetics and some sort of existentialist soul "buffer" or whatever. That's so weird because the game is very explicit that half the cyberpsychos you meet are reacting to external trauma, wanting revenge or other real motivations. The read I got from the game was always that it was a syndrome catchall for people snapping from how awful everything was.
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Feb 16, 2023 19:37
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Acebuckeye13 posted:Like surely there can be a middle ground between "no game discussion period, want to discuss changes in adaptation, gently caress you" and "unmarked spoilers all the time for everything, gently caress you." It literally says Spoiler Thread in the title, what did you expect?
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Feb 16, 2023 19:39
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Aphex- posted:It literally says Spoiler Thread in the title, what did you expect? I did expect that, which is why I read this thread first and only tried to check out the other thread when people here were being giant weenies about game discussion.
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Thundercracker posted:That's so weird because the game is very explicit that half the cyberpsychos you meet are reacting to external trauma, wanting revenge or other real motivations. The read I got from the game was always that it was a syndrome catchall for people snapping from how awful everything was. Pondsmith was a consultant for 2077 but didn't write it, so his take on cyberpsychosis (which, IMO, is kind of corrosive) isn't actually necessarily relevant to the video game's take.
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I'm fine with comparing events that already happened in the show to their game counterparts, can we all agree that's fine as long as it's behind a spoiler tag?
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Feb 16, 2023 19:59
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how can you possibly know that something from the game that didn't happen in an episode won't happen in a later episode? just don't compare to the game until the show is done. frankly i had to stop reading this thread entirely because i was sick of spoilers being inserted by seemingly well-intentioned people who don't know what they don't know.
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Moltke posted:how can you possibly know that something from the game that didn't happen in an episode won't happen in a later episode? just don't compare to the game until the show is done. That's my concern, and it already happened in this thread. So far it was only for minor things like the gay porn joke, so no big deal there, but there's an easy way to prevent it from happening for something bigger. We only have four episodes left before they cover the whole first game, then we all go can go wild on it. That said, this is just my personal preference, so if you think I'm being a giant weenie feel free to just ignore me and post comparisons under a spoiler like someone suggested.
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Thundercracker posted:That's so weird because the game is very explicit that half the cyberpsychos you meet are reacting to external trauma, wanting revenge or other real motivations. The read I got from the game was always that it was a syndrome catchall for people snapping from how awful everything was. its kind of like CDPR made a bad game
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stev posted:I don't know the actual answer but surely the child Clicker could've been infected a year ago when she was a slightly younger child. I'm not an expert, but I think there are a few stages of evolution and that infected only evolve into Clickers after a couple years? - Runners who are the freshly infected (most of them die after a few years?) - Clickers are stronger people who have been infected quite a while and their heads slowly split open (maybe a few years?) - Bloaters who are crazy strong people who refuse to stop fighting and die (maybe decades?) I'm also not sure about how they 'forced them all underground' like we're talking thousands right? But I'm not gonna think too hard about it, it was a cool idea.
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the only thing i could imagine working is if they had a squad lure the infected underground, then sealed off the entrances. cos you can't exactly force these things back, they'll just run wildly into bullets en masse, there's no self-preservation instinct going on.
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the most unrealistic angle of bloaters is the idea that a rifle round would not just shred through some fungus. That stuff turns humans into hamburger and a little mushroom ain't gonna stop it.
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Jerkface posted:the most unrealistic angle of bloaters is the idea that a rifle round would not just shred through some fungus. That stuff turns humans into hamburger and a little mushroom ain't gonna stop it. so what? does the fungus bleed to death or suffer organ failure?
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From what we've seen, the fungus can't infect & control corpses, right? That indicates to me that there is some kind of relationship going on where it's taking nutrients from the active biological processes of the living host. So if the body's processes are still ongoing then you'd imagine they would keep aging. But then again, you could also just as easily say that since the fungus is taking the nutrients, it stunts the hosts growth, and you get a bunch of malnourished zombie kids running around who will never grow above five feet tall. I thought the clicker kid was cool, she reminded me of an evil version of maddie ziegler from that video with her and shia labeouf. Jerkface posted:the most unrealistic angle of bloaters is the idea that a rifle round would not just shred through some fungus. That stuff turns humans into hamburger and a little mushroom ain't gonna stop it. Woody funguses are pretty common. They're not as hard as like, oak, but much harder than human flesh. I don't know enough about guns... if you shoot into a tree with a rifle, how far does the bullet go? How thick would your "mushroom armor" need to be to keep the bullet from reaching your body? XboxPants fucked around with this message at 21:33 on Feb 16, 2023 |
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AngryBooch posted:so what? does the fungus bleed to death or suffer organ failure? Yea, they do. You shoot a bunch in the video game with armor piercing rounds and can even melee them to death. Its funny they just made it like an unstoppable terminator fungus in the show. edit: like seriously most people dont understand just how much damage rifle rounds do to bodies due to movies/games/tv not depicting things accurately XboxPants posted:Woody funguses are pretty common. They're not as hard as like, oak, but much harder than human flesh. I don't know enough about guns... if you shoot into a tree with a rifle, how far does the bullet go? How thick would your "mushroom armor" need to be to keep the bullet from reaching your body? 5.56 can go through like a 6in+ of wood at close range. I just found a video of .308 going through a foot of wood blocks lol Bullets are loving crazy Jerkface fucked around with this message at 21:38 on Feb 16, 2023 |
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Acebuckeye13 posted:I did expect that, which is why I read this thread first and only tried to check out the other thread when people here were being giant weenies about game discussion. So you're mad at people in this thread because you did something fully expecting an outcome and that outcome happened? Lmao
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XboxPants posted:From what we've seen, the fungus can't infect & control corpses, right? That indicates to me that there is some kind of relationship going on where it's taking nutrients from the active biological processes of the living host. So if the body's processes are still ongoing then you'd imagine they would keep aging. Depends on the tree, depends on the rifle. Some trees have more dense wood that is resistant towards shattering, some are soft and brittle. Likewise, some rifle rounds are slower and have less penetration, others are zippier and can easily go through even the heaviest of body armor. Given that we have no idea of how the actual physiology of Bloaters actually works (Like, how much human anatomy is even actually left under there? How slowly would it bleed out?), I would say it's not implausible that they could be resistant to smaller-caliber rifle rounds, or at least any more implausible than the existance of a giant fungus monster itself. FLIPADELPHIA posted:So you're mad at people in this thread because you did something fully expecting an outcome and that outcome happened? Like I said, I'm annoyed at the lack of middle ground. I'm perfectly happy gatekeeping all game facts/discussion behind spoiler tags, it's just frustrating to be stuck between the two extremes of "no game spoilers" and "all game spoilers."
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Being extremely stringent about spoilers is a uniquely TVIV culture most people just passively absorb spoilers as they come to them in real life. It's hard to put yourself in a pure and untainted mindset. It's like trying to find a jury that hasn't heard of Jeffrey Epstein, and when you do they are perfectly smooth dullards. And spoilers don't really hurt most people's enjoyment. A few preconceptions helps build up anticipation.
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it's not unique to TVIV, you see it everywhere there is a non-spoiler thread. about 30% of it will be discussion about how somebody posted a spoiler, or if they can, or if they were being sly about it, blah blah. there's no resolution. every person will have their own threshold of what is acceptable spoilering, the easiest way to do it is to make a spoiler and non-spoiler thread and that is what happens. some people aren't satisfied with this. some people won't stick to the rules. roomtone fucked around with this message at 22:24 on Feb 16, 2023 |
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I don't if this counts as game spoilers but is the plan for the show to be Season 1=Game 1, Season 2=Game 2, Season 3=? I haven't played TLOU2 yet so I'm not interested in what happens, just general info on their adaptation plans if any.
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The second game will almost certainly need to be at least two seasons. It's a very complicated story.
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None of the cordyceps zombie stuff makes sense. Just accept that it’s magic that sets up cool or interesting scenarios for the protagonists to overcome slathered with a thin veneer of science and you’ll enjoy the show a lot more.
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Both Druckmann and Mazin have said that they would not want to do the second game as one season.
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Nail Rat posted:Both Druckmann and Mazin have said that they would not want to do the second game as one season. Ha well yeah of course, cause the more seasons they do the more money they make!
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Red Rox posted:Ha well yeah of course, cause the more seasons they do the more money they make! Nah it would legit be a bad idea to try to cram it into one season.
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Just hope it doesn't go all Game of Thrones if they decide to keep going after adapting both games.
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XboxPants posted:That said, this is just my personal preference, so if you think I'm being a giant weenie feel free to just ignore me Seems completely reasonable to me but maybe I’m just a big weenie too because I don’t understand why there would be any game talk in this thread when there’s another one that’s made for it
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Acebuckeye13 posted:Like I said, I'm annoyed at the lack of middle ground. I'm perfectly happy gatekeeping all game facts/discussion behind spoiler tags, it's just frustrating to be stuck between the two extremes of "no game spoilers" and "all game spoilers." time for the The Last of Us: Some-Spoilers Thread to be made to give you what you need
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Aye Doc posted:time for the The Last of Us: Some-Spoilers Thread to be made to give you what you need Discussing plot points that have already happened is not a spoiler. I've enjoyed the comparisons to game scenes, but I don't want to know what's going to happen later on in the show.
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Chamale posted:Discussing plot points that have already happened is not a spoiler. I've enjoyed the comparisons to game scenes, but I don't want to know what's going to happen later on in the show. That's a very minor example, but it's still evidence that relying on peoples judgement for what's 'safe' is going to get people talking about all sorts of things. I'm curious about some game differences, but I respect the simplicity of an absolute rule to make things clear. I personally would be happy if this thread just did not mention stuff from the game at all until the season was done, and then went ahead and talked about the differences when this part of the story was definitely done.
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Eiba posted:I personally would be happy if this thread just did not mention stuff from the game at all until the season was done, and then went ahead and talked about the differences when this part of the story was definitely done. Yeah, this is the solution. Goons aren't reliable on this issue, it's been shown time and time again that you give them an inch they'll take a mile. Happened in The Expanse threads, happened in the various Thrones ones... IMO no game chat, full stop. It's the only way the idea of this thread can work.
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