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Anecdotes like that work because they check off a bunch of boxes these people already have to prime their credulity. They already believe: -Kids are more violent, depraved, and stupid than ever before. -Kids are quick to chase stupid, dangerous trends with little forethought on the consequences. -Teachers are pinko enabling manipulatiors who will brainwash children into believing terrible things. -The more time that passes, the more alienated from reality the world seems to become. Things would be much better if the world was totally unchanged from when they were in school. So with the litter boxes thing, they can believe it because it sounds like some baffling trend that stupid kids are doing and dangerous teachers are encouraging. The world is a scary, incomprehensible tapestry and cat people using litter boxes in schools is just more proof of that.
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Honestly though, having been inside many school bathrooms, a layer of litter on the floor would be an improvement.
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Panfilo posted:-The more time that passes, the more alienated from reality the world seems to become. This one is at least partially true, but only in the case of that it's the people who believe this one that wind up becoming more alienated from reality, not the world itself.
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There was a lockdown in Los Angeles the summer of 2001 (before 9/11, even) where an armed gunman shot at a school police officer then fled into the garage of the school and was lost. This was at like 7:45, so just past first bell. The resulting lockdown lasted something around 6-7 hours. Students were locked in classrooms with no way of using any kind of facility, getting food, medication, etc. They eventually cleared the school and found the dude in an apartment complex a block away. After the LA Times had a picture of kids holding signs out of windows reading "help trapped" and "we need food" the district started sending Lockdown Kits to help. Originally it was a trashcan and spare bags. Now I believe they're up to a plastic utility container with a toilet top lid, sawdust/litter for absorption, and a privacy screen of some kind. The district also has orange emergency bags full of essentials like alcohol wipes, thermal blankets, and other first aid things.
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I saw a video from Reddit where a social studies teacher was explaining the parts of the emergency lockdown kit and it got real morbid real fast. "This bucket is what you use if you can't reach a bathroom during an emergency. It's got a toilet seat and everything."*people giggling and tittering amongst themselves* "And these, see these bags? These are the bags I'm supposed to use to cover up anybody that died in an attack. And there's a lot of them in here"
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nine-gear crow posted:Ann Coulter finally about to come storming back to relevance no she wont and this hurts her soul atoms
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PT6A posted:It's just multiple levels of insanity, to the point that it's almost a shibboleth to confirm that you're a complete nut who's receptive to utter nonsense; in fact, I suspect that's exactly what it is. It's a purposeful sign that you've decided to reject reality and substitute your own, that you may then identify fellow travelers. I don't believe for a second that anyone actually takes it seriously. Conscious and deliberate rejection of objective reality and reason are part and parcel of fascism. Like it's both a shibboleth and simply part of what fascists do the way prayer and ritual is part of what religious people do. The tyranny of objective reality and the burden of reason are two of the endless enemies fascists seek to destroy. Like I remember an old meme gag from the early internet that I saw in forum signatures here and there; "join the fight against gravity - jump today!" Fascism is, among other things, that, but playe deadly straight. So yeah, they both do and don't take it seriously because, like, 'take it seriously' means wildly different things for a fascist than it does for us, or even a conservative (and there are few conservatives left in the US).
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Do teachers get paid extra if they have to use the mass-shooting kit? I’m not touching a dead kid unless I get a bonus.
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I AM GRANDO posted:Do teachers get paid extra if they have to use the mass-shooting kit? I’m not touching a dead kid unless I get a bonus. I wouldn't be surprised if the teachers had to pay for the no way to prevent this kits out of their own pockets. This is America, after all.
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I AM GRANDO posted:Do teachers get paid extra if they have to use the mass-shooting kit? I’m not touching a dead kid unless I get a bonus. Nah,but if you're lucky and live in CA they'll let you exhaust your sick days, vacation, and benefits or go on a one year leave thanks to the PTSD you'll suffer. Lmao imagine they getting paid for that morbid poo poo.
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PhazonLink posted:no she wont and this hurts her soul atoms Her what? Not the atoms part, the word in front of that.
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LloydDobler posted:Yes, some schools built "lockdown kits" which included a bucket of kitty litter. I didn't miss it. I'd read about it. This was the first time I'd heard it mentioned out in the wild though and as an actual second hand anecdote. The dude wasn't saying he'd read about it or seen it on the web. He was claiming that his friend or someone had related the story of the food dish directly from a parent.
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Dr. Red Ranger posted:I wouldn't be surprised if the teachers had to pay for the no way to prevent this kits out of their own pockets. This is America, after all. They probably fire you for it like how they fire a pizza man who gets robbed
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PT6A posted:It's just multiple levels of insanity, to the point that it's almost a shibboleth to confirm that you're a complete nut who's receptive to utter nonsense; in fact, I suspect that's exactly what it is. It's a purposeful sign that you've decided to reject reality and substitute your own, that you may then identify fellow travelers. I don't believe for a second that anyone actually takes it seriously. I'm in total agree with this statement. There are a small number of completely lunatic true believers but I am convinced it's a a vanishingly tiny headcount. Almost everyone is doing the equivalent of throwing up an ideological gang sign to signal they are part of the preferred in-group. The price of entry is cheap. You just have to go out there once in a while and be heard saying something counterfactual every now and then. Your main benefit is being part of the power structure and nobody ever complaining about hypocrisy in terms of the sincere beliefs you may actually have. Anther small group of people, probably as big as the first group, of folks profiting to some extent from saying X, Y or Z and who know it. Purely mercenary in interest.
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Apparently, Kevin McCarthy gave Tucker Carlson exclusive access to 41,000 hours of Capitol Hill surveillance footage from 1/6. Tucker’s people have to go to DC to go through the footage but no one else is getting it. Expect some James O’Keefe style editing in order to make it so shocking for Tucker’s followers.
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Pretty cool how right wing talking heads direct about 1/3 of all members of government. Very cool and normal society we live in
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BiggerBoat posted:I didn't miss it. I'd read about it. Ah, I see. And yeah you can guarantee that he or the person he's quoting just read it on facebook and is claiming they know them "personally". I've heard it in the wild, ran in to someone who claimed he heard it from the specific teacher who was forced to put it in at a school in a neighboring town 6 miles from ours. It was a casual situation so I just replied "yeah that didn't happen, it's urban legend, nonsense." And they definitely didn't trust their source enough to double down, and let it go. LloydDobler fucked around with this message at 22:04 on Feb 20, 2023 |
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James O'Keefe... that name takes me back. Back to the panty stealing rape barn & dildo boat thing
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Staluigi posted:James O'Keefe... that name takes me back. Back to the panty stealing rape barn & dildo boat thing
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FlamingLiberal posted:Or when he wiretapped a sitting US Senator's office and didn't get thrown into a Supermax over it because his dad is/was a prosecutor No his dad was a rich moneybag donor who was friends with a bunch of prosecutors and DAs. He bribed the justice system to keep his son out of jail.
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Just curious, when Congress were going on about that symbolic resolution to denounce socialism, did anyone think to ask any of these fuckers on the floor to actually define what socialism is? Seems like the world's most obvious gotcha and yet I've heard nothing, almost like our media is run entirely by capitalists and they recognize the twain are mutually exclusive or something
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Staluigi posted:James O'Keefe... that name takes me back. Back to the panty stealing rape barn & dildo boat thing Wait what? Panty barn? Dildo boat? Don't leave me hanging here!
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The Islamic Shock posted:Just curious, when Congress were going on about that symbolic resolution to denounce socialism, did anyone think to ask any of these fuckers on the floor to actually define what socialism is? Seems like the world's most obvious gotcha and yet I've heard nothing, almost like our media is run entirely by capitalists and they recognize the twain are mutually exclusive or something They've got a pretty good idea of what it is by the sounds of it, at least in their minds. They put their name next to it and everything. Who's gonna gotcha them? The people with no political representation and no voices on big media platforms? The resolution was literally a bipartisan agreement that the position of the Federal Government is that socialists are basically terrorists and should gently caress off lol. Incidentally in the circles I move in, belief that any good can be achieved by working within electoral structures is at an all time low.
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Epic High Five posted:They've got a pretty good idea of what it is by the sounds of it, at least in their minds. They put their name next to it and everything. Who's gonna gotcha them? The people with no political representation and no voices on big media platforms? The resolution was literally a bipartisan agreement that the position of the Federal Government is that socialists are basically terrorists and should gently caress off lol. Incidentally in the circles I move in, belief that any good can be achieved by working within electoral structures is at an all time low.
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Panfilo posted:Wait what? Panty barn? Dildo boat? Don't leave me hanging here! https://www.gawker.com/5895560/james-okeefes-panty-stealing-rape-barn-sex-and-racism-scandal https://www.cnn.com/2010/US/09/29/okeefe.cnn.prank/index.html In 2010, James O'Keefe tried to lure then-CNN correspondent Abbie Boudreau onto a boat with the promise of an exclusive interview for her on his Project Veritas activities, only for it to turn out that it was a plot by O'Keefe to drug, kidnap, and rape her because the boat was littered with dildos, other sex toys, alcohol, and hidden cameras and Boudreau went "Nope, gently caress off" the second she saw it and just barely escaped from his thugs. Two years later in 2012, another girl, this time one of O'Keefe's own (at the time) employees with Project Veritas, was also kidnapped by him and a hired thug, taken to a decapitated barn out in the middle of nowhere, and O'Keefe also tried and ultimately failed to rape her. After she escaped from the barn, she then sued O'Keefe for the incident and I believe he settled out of court with her for an undisclosed amount of money. tl;dr James O'Keefe has tried and failed at least twice to kidnap and rape at least two different women, possibly more, we just don't know... nine-gear crow fucked around with this message at 00:07 on Feb 21, 2023 |
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Holy poo poo he's literally that Yellow Bastard from Sin City 
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The Islamic Shock posted:Yeah my bad, I thought it was something like a group of people like employees or a government (a society, if you will) controlling the means of production, especially in cases where the profit model creates a great deal of human suffering. Turns out it's actually all genocide all the time, not sure where my weird-rear end ideas came from. Yeah, there's 1) what you'd guess it is, 2) what your interpretation of it is after reading and thinking and discussing the themes and history, and 3) how it's actually viewed by those in power. Luckily if you go through in that order, you're not terribly surprised by the time you get to step 3, and while there's no use in dwelling on it, it's always worth keeping in mind when these signers come by with their begging bowls. I didn't mean to come off as aggro, I just had meetings all weekend where it came up a lot and I've still got some vinegar in my system, sorry. Epic High Five fucked around with this message at 00:20 on Feb 21, 2023 |
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Panfilo posted:Holy poo poo he's literally that Yellow Bastard from Sin City I've always thought of him as the unholy bastard child of Donald Segretti and Lee Atwater. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Segretti https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Atwater
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PT6A posted:It's just multiple levels of insanity, to the point that it's almost a shibboleth to confirm that you're a complete nut who's receptive to utter nonsense; in fact, I suspect that's exactly what it is. It's a purposeful sign that you've decided to reject reality and substitute your own, that you may then identify fellow travelers. I don't believe for a second that anyone actually takes it seriously. I think this is pretty accurate for a lot of insane right-wing types at this point. There are for sure people who actually believe every bit of stupid poo poo fed to them, but for a most it's the feeling of power of not having to subscribe to reality that's a big motivator. Probly plenty of literature describing this effect in a post-mortem of WWII Germany as well.
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Epic High Five posted:They've got a pretty good idea of what it is by the sounds of it, at least in their minds. They put their name next to it and everything. Who's gonna gotcha them? The people with no political representation and no voices on big media platforms? The resolution was literally a bipartisan agreement that the position of the Federal Government is that socialists are basically terrorists and should gently caress off lol. Incidentally in the circles I move in, belief that any good can be achieved by working within electoral structures is at an all time low. Over a hundred people voted against the resolution. One of those guys.
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Mercury_Storm posted:I think this is pretty accurate for a lot of insane right-wing types at this point. There are for sure people who actually believe every bit of stupid poo poo fed to them, but for a most it's the feeling of power of not having to subscribe to reality that's a big motivator. Probly plenty of literature describing this effect in a post-mortem of WWII Germany as well. That's nice, but I don't believe anyone actually takes this poo poo seriously. No one's seriously concerned about children pretending they're cats and pissing and making GBS threads in a litterbox, because that's insane, but they are deeply worried about teachers telling kids it's okay to be gay and/or trans, but they know they can't just come out and say that.
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Charlz Guybon posted:Over a hundred people voted against the resolution. One of those guys. Have any?
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I learned a very long time ago that the only language people like conservatives and fascists understand is power. It's exactly the same as any bully I've ever had to deal with in my life. They have no shame and know no hypocrisy. If you let them go on and on, they win. If you stand up to them and try to argue with them, they win. If you walk away, they win. If you beat the poo poo out of them, they win. Even if you get them running scared, they'll find their friends and come at you a hundred times harder. And the system is, at best, indifferent to it and would rather ignore you than deal with bullies and neo-nazis. But realistically, it's run by them.
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PT6A posted:That's nice, but I don't believe anyone actually takes this poo poo seriously. No one's seriously concerned about children pretending they're cats and pissing and making GBS threads in a litterbox, because that's insane, but they are deeply worried about teachers telling kids it's okay to be gay and/or trans, but they know they can't just come out and say that.
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Staluigi posted:James O'Keefe... that name takes me back. Back to the panty stealing rape barn & dildo boat thing "Non profit" Now why do I have doubts about that?
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BiggerBoat posted:"Non profit" It's a non-profit if every dollar it makes goes into O'Keefe's pocket.
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