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Kith posted:lightbearer hive have more going for them than "i am a normal enemy except now i'm a rampaging wad of hitpoints and damage" or "i am a normal enemy except i'm invulnerable sometimes" or "i am a normal enemy except i jump around a lot and heal rapidly" I just fundamentally don't agree. They don't have unique AI, they just dodge around until they decide to shoot/use ability, same as anything else. Unstoppables are probably the most unique AI in Destiny, in that they just go forward and forget all else. Their supers are just "damage". Everything is 'damage'. There's zero difference to a blade barrage vs an ogre eye beam or whatever. Their abilities, well the only kind of unique one is suppressor grenade. But even that's got similar ones in Chieftan totems, or wizard poison, or taken captain darkness blasts, etc. They are, essentially, normal enemies with more HP. Like the hunter's special thing is the dodge... so "I am a normal enemy, except I jump around a lot, and if you don't kill me to right way I will come back at full health." Or the knight. "I am a normal enemy, except sometimes I put up a barrier (go invuln) ps regular knights have a barrier too. If I go berserk (super) you must hide, same as any other enemy with a strong attack". Or the wizard... they're like, wizard+. The taken are more unique compared to their regular versions. SIVA Fallen were more of a twist than Hive Wizards. That a fallen captain can be holding swords, lord of wolves or a scorch cannon offers more variety than the wizards have over regular wizards. If it wasn't for the number bump they got, they'd be even easier than regular wizards because they don't have the smoke. You don't interact with them any differently, you shoot them and take cover from their attacks. Champs are not great, don't get me wrong. But again, the issue is the HP regen, so you can't whittle them down, and that the mechanics was tied to mods/guns, rather than being a skill thing. Like the risen hive are either- when they are attacking, you hide. Shoot them when they aren't attacking. Avoid the grenades. They only actual mechanical twist they have is having to finish off the ghost. Everything else is just variations of weapon or ability, which all enemies have. Champs are either- when they are attacking, you hide. Shoot them when they aren't, and get the stun. Berserkers from Scourge were actually unique because you had to have two people. Mazerunner fucked around with this message at 13:49 on Feb 18, 2023 |
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GruntyThrst posted:Second question: I have SO MUCH lore to catch up on. Is Ishtar still the place to go for that? I wanna read all the little lore greebles not just watch a summary from Byf or something Ishtar is still the place to go if you want to catch up on the lore. At a minimum you want to read the seasonal lore books in order, the lore attached to any seasonal armor sets (same across slots for all three classes, start with the helmet and work down), lore attached to sesonal weapons, items (sparrows, ghost shells, ships), and the sesonal artifact. You also want to read any of the Web Lore at Ishtar (these are Bungie lore blog posts) and the books from the collector editions of Beyond Light, Witch Queen, and Lightfall. You might need to dig up a reddit post linking to the collector edition books. Don't skip the collector edition books, Witch Queen especially has some really deep lore and as far as I know only the second book is on Ishtar right now. You should also go back and read the Books of Sorrow from the Taken King to start.
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PERMACAV 50 posted:Important news!! A dev leak I can get behind
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Thinking about picking this up again as I generally like the game, just hated the gating/fomo aspect, of seasons/expansions is that changed at all?
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Not really / not entirely. Not sure how long you've been away though so I don't know what version of FOMO you're thinking of. In some ways they've eased off a few things - guns and armor no longer will be sunset, but seasonal activities still go away when the next expansion drops. Expansions campaigns and destinations will no longer be sunset too, IIRC, and they are implementing an "exotic mission rotator" which makes it sound like they intent to no longer sunset exotic missions. That will be added in season 22 which will be around fallish? When that shows up it will come with the 2 exotic missions from this year (Seraph Shield and Vox Obscura) and Presage from the previous year. Presumably we'll eventually see stuff like Zero Hour and Whisper of the Worm added to it. Weapon crafting is both a positive and negative for FOMO - seasonal guns will allow you to acquire patterns to craft them - unlock the full pattern and you basically no longer need to worry about the gun going away/rotated out, but in turn, it does encourage getting them while they're around. I don't find it all too bad because most of the important stuff gives you plenty of time to get it - it's not really a "sign in and make sure you get your login bonus" kind of FOMO, but seasonal ranks and challenges might create a bit "aw gently caress i've barely played this season" feeling. e: Like, with them doubling down on dungeons (we get one every other season, granted you gotta buy the deluxe edition or pay like 10$ for each dungeon), doing the reprised raid at the yearly midway point, and the announcement of the exotic mission rotator, I'm feeling pretty positive with what feels like a commitment to more "evergreen?" interesting content. Oxyclean fucked around with this message at 17:36 on Feb 18, 2023 |
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I stopped playing a bit after gambit was released. So like entire expansions I paid for are not going to just be gone anymore? (Was annoyed initially about that but kinda wtvr really) I loaded it up to play around a bit, went to the helm and it appears I would have to buy 3 different season passes to just use the stuff there? Or does the most recent one give you all of the others? Game isn't very clear on that.
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Rakeris posted:I stopped playing a bit after gambit was released. So like entire expansions I paid for are not going to just be gone anymore? (Was annoyed initially about that but kinda wtvr really) I think you can only buy the current season (Seraph). The other two you need WQ Deluxe I believe? actually on that note I'm 41 right now and have $10 burning a hole in my steam wallet. Should be possible to get to 100 before Lightfall right?
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acumen posted:I think you can only buy the current season (Seraph). The other two you need WQ Deluxe I believe? Sure, but it’s gonna take a lot of bounties.
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Old expansions (Forsaken, Curse of Osiris, Warmind) aren't going to be re-added, but the currently available expansions, Shadowkeep, Beyond Light and Witch Queen are not planned to be sunset like the others were. Seasons are separate - buying the newest won't get you the previous. Now is probably not a good time to buy any seasons* - we are a week away from the next expansion, Lightfall when all of the current seasonal content you see in the helm is going to be vaulted. * With maybe the exception being if you buy the Witch Queen Deluxe Edition - it comes with the WQ Expansion (can be purchased standalone, not going anywhere) The 2 WQ Dungeons (Can also be purchased as a pair separately, also not going anywhere) and the 4 WQ Seasons, (Totally forgot they usually only let you buy the active season ala carte)
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acumen posted:I think you can only buy the current season (Seraph). The other two you need WQ Deluxe I believe? Should be possible. Do the seasonal challenges and a lot bounties, then make sure to turn them in while in a group with clan members for the bonus xp.
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Yeah I'm up another 10 levels overnight and have a bunch of time off to grind some more, I think it's looking doable. Are the Revision Zero catalysts going away with the quest though? Seems probably worthwhile to focus on that too if so
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Even restricted to this past year, I have died more to Taken Phalanxes than the Lightbearer Hive. They are the real low-tier god enemy of Destiny.
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Firebert posted:Even restricted to this past year, I have died more to Taken Phalanxes than the Lightbearer Hive. They are the real low-tier god enemy of Destiny. I sherpa'd a queenswalk yesterday and jesus christ, the amount of runs immediately rendered wipe-worthy because of phalanxes was ludicrous
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Yeah, the Taken Phalanxes have pretty much taken the number one Kill ASAP spot that was reserved for Taken Captains in Destiny 1.
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Taken Phalanxes took over where D1 Phalanxes left off - slapping the poo poo out of anyone they choose, anywhere they like, at their convenience. I am still stupid enough to try to jump over them to headshot them as they are preparing to do their shield poo poo
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Waveframe GL are amazing for phalanxes. Idk about the taken booper ones but they made life way easier against the cabal ones soloing the second encounter in duality. Just rides under and lights em up.
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Yeah between unstoppable GL and every activity having waves of trash adds, this season has made me finally love waveframes. Hopefully we get a craftable void one next season.
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The biggest problem with Taken Phalanxes is their knockback attack has immense range. You think you're safe because you're far away but nope, you just get knocked right off the map by a phalanx on the other side of the room.
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PERMACAV 50 posted:Yeah between unstoppable GL and every activity having waves of trash adds, this season has made me finally love waveframes. Hopefully we get a craftable void one next season. I desperately want a waveframe that goes in slot 1. Apparently the monkey's paw curled twice over since Lightfall is giving is a heavy stasis waveframe GL and then the exotic heavy stasis glaive. Bungie please, I beg you, we need more options for special weapons in the first slot. My loadout is dying. Collateral Damage posted:The biggest problem with Taken Phalanxes is their knockback attack has immense range. You think you're safe because you're far away but nope, you just get knocked right off the map by a phalanx on the other side of the room.
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The other quasi answer to taken phalanx is a sword swipe that tends to cancel your Mach 4 exit from reality. If you get blown off and down as a warlock you’re largely hosed but the other two classes have a little bit of altitude gain from their class jump so often times a sword will save you. On warlock I think I instinctively jump before getting blasted specifically because it gives me some atitide from the launch angle. First encounter of Prophecy, Grasp Ogre, Grasp end boss, and that Corrupted thing (I guess anything with stomps/phalanx near cliffs) are prime examples where being bad at the game makes it in my best interest to have a sword.
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Every now and then an old destiny 2 clip pops on my YouTube feed and what in the world https://youtu.be/rE1z0iW8mGU
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uwaeve posted:The other quasi answer to taken phalanx is a sword swipe that tends to cancel your Mach 4 exit from reality. If you get blown off and down as a warlock you’re largely hosed but the other two classes have a little bit of altitude gain from their class jump so often times a sword will save you. On warlock I think I instinctively jump before getting blasted specifically because it gives me some atitide from the launch angle. First encounter of Prophecy, Grasp Ogre, Grasp end boss, and that Corrupted thing (I guess anything with stomps/phalanx near cliffs) are prime examples where being bad at the game makes it in my best interest to have a sword. yknow I haven't tried it cause I don't run solar often but I wonder if a well-timed icarus dash can save you from a boop hilariously, I can speak from experience and say that trying to use blink against a boop will only make it worse as it follows your momentum and teleports you even further backwards.
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:Every now and then an old destiny 2 clip pops on my YouTube feed and what in the world This was part of the season 1 content, a post-campaign quest on Titan which is no longer in the game (along with the rest of Titan). It was the first time we saw Mithrax and he didn't appear again until season 5. For some reason I wrongly remembered that it was possible to kill him in the knight fight, but it looks like it never was since he's invulnerable the entire time
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Icarus Dash does indeed help you against boops. Not always, but I definitely feel like it's helped. A big reason I love solarlock.
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haveblue posted:This was part of the season 1 content, a post-campaign quest on Titan which is no longer in the game (along with the rest of Titan). It was the first time we saw Mithrax and he didn't appear again until season 5. For some reason I wrongly remembered that it was possible to kill him in the knight fight, but it looks like it never was since he's invulnerable the entire time I am pretty sure you could, and there would be alternate dialogue. I went through it once solo, and then did it co-op with my brother, who didn't pay attention to the story and just opened fire on both of them.
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ponzicar posted:I am pretty sure you could, and there would be alternate dialogue. I went through it once solo, and then did it co-op with my brother, who didn't pay attention to the story and just opened fire on both of them. I thought so too but in the video he has his shield before the knight is dead, you can see brief flashes of it around 31 seconds in. I thought they might have patched out the ability to kill him when they continued his story with Zero Hour, but this video was posted long before that
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Nelson Mandingo posted:
Finally, someone has the courage to say what we're all thinking
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Nelson Mandingo posted:
whuf ooof am i finally going to buy saomething destiny inorder to experience this?? wowza
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:Finally, someone has the courage to say what we're all thinking
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Honestly though jokes aside, the Cloud Striders are genuinely loving massive. I see why they die in 10 years now. There is no way the human body can sustain that size.
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I'm the ethereal punchsexual
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Nelson Mandingo posted:Honestly though jokes aside, the Cloud Striders are genuinely loving massive. I see why they die in 10 years now. There is no way the human body can sustain that size. hell yeah 
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neutral milf hotel posted:hell yeah holy poo poo, I just realized what new Calus reminds me of  WAIT 
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arsenicCatnip posted:holy poo poo, I just realized what new Calus reminds me of
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