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Charity Porno
Aug 2, 2021

by Hand Knit

Randallteal posted:

Guesses:

- Everyone still remembers how much money TBS lost on WCW and doesn't want to get involved without an exec who already knows wrestling that can manage it
- Something to do with tv unions and directly taking on a bunch of sketchy wwe wrestler contracts maybe?
- WWE is attaching terms that we don't know about to the deal (like "Vince remains as CEO and has ultimate firing and hiring decisions")
- All the big media companies are laying off and slashing projects. WWE just picked a bad time to go on sale for anyone but Saudi investment fund or possibly deranged billionaires like Musk

Also the "independent contractor" poo poo is a time bomb that's going to explode at some point and it's absolutely going to cost hundreds of millions

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RocknRollaAyatollah
Nov 26, 2008

Lipstick Apathy
I think the biggest draw would be the WWE vault, which is massive and I don't even think a majority of it is on the WWE Network/Peacock from what I've heard they have in terms of tapes from the territory days.

There's no real reason for a media company to buy out the WWE when they can just contract a wrestling fed to air their shows on their channel or service. That way they don't have to deal with aforementioned costs of touring and the HR nightmare that is probably WWE's day to day operations. Whenever they have interviews about backstage conditions and stuff like the Bayley interview where she doesn't believe any company could move that many people around regularly, it feels like they're on the edge of something crazy. I'm sure Vince and crew have done their work smashing unions and keeping the workers in a cult like state of helplessness but with AEW showing things can be different, I feel like more and more workers are catching on and realizing they don't have to put up with poo poo anymore. The transient nature of the business probably tamps down any sort of labor actions but it's always been there and I can't see it going away. You really don't want to be caught holding the ball when that happens and it's not worth that for a bunch of WCCW and NWA tapes.

Animal-Mother
Feb 14, 2012

RABBIT RABBIT
RABBIT RABBIT
The Prime Time Players are prepared to make an offer of MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.

FullLeatherJacket
Dec 30, 2004

Chiunque può essere Luther Blissett, semplicemente adottando il nome Luther Blissett

Charity Porno posted:

They posted record profits during the pandemic because they weren't touring. The actual house shows that aren't PPVs are almost revenue neutral, they do it because it advertises the product.

Eh, I don't think running "Disney On Ice" by-the-numbers shows in Boise, Idaho does anything for advertising that having five hours of weekly primetime television doesn't do better.

They're something of a relic from most of wrestling history, where television was something that you took a loss on if you had to in order to drive money from ticket sales. Nowadays, WWE could give away tickets for free (other than maybe the showpiece stadium events) and the difference would be negligible compared to the television money, but if you've spent fifty years running a show from town to town every night there are going to be a lot of people culturally committed to that idea as "the business".

Charity Porno
Aug 2, 2021

by Hand Knit
That's my point though, they could stop touring tomorrow and if it had any effect on the bottom line it'd be increasing profits. It's a relic that's wasteful of time, money, and their talent.

Cubone
May 26, 2011

Because it never leaves its bedroom, no one has ever seen this poster's real face.
house shows own though

since the show is just for the live crowd, you get to see what wrestlers can do without having to work around tv production bullshit like the hard cam and match time having to fit in a certain window and commercial breaks and replays and kevin dunn's horrible camerawork and the commentary team's stilted corpospeak taking you back to what happened last week
and the crowd feel is totally different. no front row regulars sitting there disinterestedly out of some bizarre sense of obligation, no smarks trying to get themselves over or make a point about the program (roman reigns notoriously got cheered at house shows while he was being booed on tv for being overpushed)
it's just you, an audience of filthy wrestling enjoyers, and the wrestling match right in front of you. no pause, no rewind, just big bulky bastards telling a story with their bodies for a cheering crowd

https://twitter.com/jzzza/status/1546010246685925377

tickets are also pretty cheap for an evening of live entertainment
my understanding is wrestlers like doing them, too. it's more personal, lower pressure, and they get a cut of the gate

GolfHole
Feb 26, 2004

i would watch ai wrestling league

Charity Porno
Aug 2, 2021

by Hand Knit

GolfHole posted:

i would watch ai wrestling league

They used to have leagues they would do using the WWE video games, they'd write storylines and poo poo and then upload them with live premieres weekly, like they were actual TV

AlmightyBob
Sep 8, 2003

Charity Porno posted:

They used to have leagues they would do using the WWE video games, they'd write storylines and poo poo and then upload them with live premieres weekly, like they were actual TV

there are a till people that do that although I think a lot have moved on to like wrestling empire or fire pro

Charity Porno
Aug 2, 2021

by Hand Knit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByO5l00uxKY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znqCR8IVRxY

Charity Porno fucked around with this message at 05:53 on Feb 21, 2023

The Rabbi T. White
Jul 17, 2008





There is always Bully Demise.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

AlmightyBob posted:

there are a till people that do that although I think a lot have moved on to like wrestling empire or fire pro

You can do it in a lot of things, seen one youtuber have a AI Smash Ultimate league complete with increasingly silly storylines and eventually a custom anime intro.

Prof. Crocodile
Jun 27, 2020

Cubone posted:

my understanding is wrestlers like doing them, too. it's more personal, lower pressure, and they get a cut of the gate

So you're saying that Vince is going to ban house shows?

TheSwizzler
May 13, 2005

LETTIN THE CAT OUTTA THE BAG
the enclosed pool area has been reopened

https://forums.somethingawful.com/forumdisplay.php?forumid=681

Elephant Ambush
Nov 13, 2012

...We sholde spenden more time together. What sayest thou?
Nap Ghost

:woop:

Gavok
Oct 10, 2005

Brock! Oh, man, I'm sorry about your...

...tooth?


This Sunday is the next big AEW PPV, Revolution 2023. Even though AEW has fixed its problem with ROH oversaturation, the PPV is still being criticized for having a pretty weak build outside of Hangman vs. Moxley. It doesn't help that the main event is guaranteed to go an hour.

Still, it should probably be a pretty good show at the very least. Unless you're a big fan of women's wrestling as there's only one women's match and it's a loving mess. Even the TBS Championship is a non-factor because they've run out of story to tell with Jade Cargill and don't seem interested in killing her streak any time soon.

Here's the card and stories behind the matches.

MJF (C) VS. BRYAN DANIELSON

60-Minute Iron Man Match for the AEW World Championship


At the last PPV, Full Gear, MJF won the AEW title off of Jon Moxley thanks in part to Moxley’s mentor William Regal switching sides and interfering for MJF. On the following Dynamite, Moxley was fully prepared to brutalize Regal, but fellow protégé Bryan Danielson came out to calm Mox down and explain that despite Regal’s actions, he’s still a fragile man who has made mistakes. If Mox really tried to gently caress him up, he could potentially kill the guy. Mox held back and told Regal to get the gently caress out of there.

A week later, MJF punched Regal in the back of the head with brass knuckles, showing that he had no real interest in having Regal in his corner after all. Danielson was horrified to see this happen.

Danielson wanted to face MJF at Revolution and MJF decided to do his usual routine of, “Oh, you want to wrestle me? Well, then you have to win a bunch of weekly matches in a row!” Danielson rolled his eyes because he didn’t have to do that. He could just win matches in general and become #1 contender. That said, he agreed to the terms as long as he could choose the match type. Since Danielson wrestles all the time and MJF wrestles very, very sparingly, Danielson said it would be an hour-long iron man match.

MJF kept stacking the odds against Danielson, getting more and more desperate by the week. Danielson proceeded to win every match put in front of him. MJF started to get more unhinged and even went on this bizarre rant about the time he got in a car accident in high school while getting road head and put his date in the driver’s seat before the cops could get there.

Later, he did an angry promo about how his fiancée dumped him. Probably over publicly bragging about whatever the gently caress that car incident thing was. MJF now claims that he’s angry at Danielson because all MJF wants is a family and Danielson ignores his own via his self-destructive wrestling obsession.

Danielson has sidestepped all of MJF’s insults and warns him that MJF is going to get his loving head kicked in.

JAMIE HAYTER (C) VS. SARAYA VS. RUBY SOHO

AEW Women’s Championship


This storyline is an absolute loving mess. Cripes.

So the last PPV had Saraya (WWE’s Paige) making her big return to wrestling by beating Britt Baker. Afterwards, they announced a big tag match that would happen about a month or so later of Britt and Jamie Hayter against Saraya and a mystery partner. Considering the state of the wrestling world at the time, the money was on Mercedez Mone, formerly Sasha Banks, showing up in AEW. She would be a huge get for the company, but also she was crazy expensive and AEW only likes doing one women’s match per show, so... it was up in the air.

A week before that tag match, Saraya had a pre-taped segment where she talked to top women’s faces Hikaru Shida and Toni Storm about how one of them was going to be her choice for partner, then announced it would be Storm. Shida was openly pissed about this and it looked like 1) any chance of getting Mone for the match fell through and 2) Shida was going to turn heel.

Buuuuut then I guess Shida got injured or something as she accidentally-on-purpose cost Saraya and Storm the tag match and basically just vanished from TV. Saraya and Storm turned heel and started with a gimmick that was essentially “we were in WWE, so we’re better than you.” Britt and Hayter became faces out of osmosis.

Then both parties tried recruiting Ruby Soho to their side. Ruby really did not care about this feud and just wanted to be left alone.

Also, Saraya and Storm would spray paint people a bunch, leading to an gigantic WHAT IN THE gently caress moment where Saraya would spray paint Storm’s butt right before Storm would do her trademark “running butt to the opponent’s face” move. It looked really stupid at best.

The storyline started to finally hold together after Ruby simply made it apparent that she wants a title shot against Jamie Hayter. Now it’s a triple threat match with Saraya as the third and things are a bit easier to follow.

THE GUNNS (C) VS. THE ACCLAIMED VS. JAY LETHAL/JEFF JARRETT VS. BEST FRIENDS*

AEW Tag Team Championship


The Acclaimed had a successful run as tag champs, recently getting a couple wins over challengers Jay Lethal and Jeff Jarrett. The Acclaimed are mentored by Billy Gunn, which is something Billy’s sons resent them all for. Austin Gunn and Colten Gunn got a title match and somehow came out of it as the new tag champs.

It was announced that the Gunns would defend the tag titles at Revolution against the Acclaimed and two other teams. The first team would be decided through a tag team battle royal. Lethal and Jarrett won thanks to the help of their giant henchman, Satnam Singh. The runners up were Best Friends, Chuck Taylor and Trent.

When interviewed about the situation, Best Friends were jumped backstage by the Gunns’ own giant buddy Big Bill. Orange Cassidy found out about this and offered to take care of Big Bill in a match for Orange’s All-Atlantic Championship. With fellow Best Friend member Danhausen in his corner, Orange barely squeaked out a win.

The final spot would be decided via a Tag Team Casino Battle Royal (a tag team Royal Rumble, basically), but Chuck and Trent were deemed incapable of wrestling due to their beating. Danhausen and a hurt Orange Cassidy decided to take their spot, which seemed to annoy Trent. Trent had recently lost a shot at Orange’s All-Atlantic title and shadows of resentment were starting to show.

Of course, Danhausen and Orange Cassidy won the Tag Team Casino Battle Royal, meaning Orange has a chance at becoming a double champion.

THE ELITE (C) VS. THE HOUSE OF BLACK

AEW Trios Championship


There’s not really much to this one. The Elite spent a couple months doing a Best of 7 series against Death Triangle over the trios titles. The Elite won and then moved on to the next challengers. While they were doing a backstage promo, there was a quick flicker on screen of the House of Black.

House of Black has been taunting the Elite via cutting the lights and appearing on the ramp. Recently, when the Elite were walking out to cut a promo (I guess), House of Black teleported behind them, shut off the lights, and laid the champs out.

SAMOA JOE (C) VS. WARDLOW

AEW TNT Championship


Wardlow and Samoa Joe used to kick rear end side-by-side as WarJoe. Wardlow was TNT Champion and Samoa Joe was the ROH TV Champion. Wardlow cut a promo where he mentioned wanting to win more titles and Joe immediately turned on him, feeling like that was a threat. They had a triple threat match for the TNT Championship with Powerhouse Hobbs and Joe stole the win. He became double champion.

Joe and Wardlow had a match and Joe hosed Wardlow up to the point that the referee stopped it. Afterwards, Joe cut off Wardlow’s topknot.

Joe lost the title to Darby Allin, took a break for a little while, then came back and regained the title. Shortly after, Wardlow returned with a shorter haircut, super-pissed.

Wardlow later explained that he had a complicated relationship with his own father, who usually sported long hair. After the two reconciled, Wardlow’s dad revealed he had cancer. The chemo caused him to lose that hair and after Wardlow’s father’s death, he chose to grow out his hair as a tribute. Joe knew that when cutting the hair, so Wardlow wants to get his revenge.

JON MOXLEY VS. HANGMAN ADAM PAGE

Texas Death Match


Back when Moxley was champion, Hangman earned a title shot. At one point in the match, Hangman ate a nasty clothesline that legit knocked him out. The match was ended abruptly and Hangman had to stay off TV for a while due to concussion protocol. When Hangman came out weeks later to confront Moxley, Mox made a joke about Hangman’s injury and Hangman angrily attacked him. Hangman did not like Mox making light of Hangman’s inability to remember his own baby son’s name.

They had a rematch and Hangman won. Mox seemed pretty out of it afterwards and Hangman appeared somewhat guilty about it, but moved on. When being interviewed by Renee Paquette, Mox’s wife, Hangman asked about how he was doing and it was mentioned that the two do have a mutual respect. Regardless, another match was put together. This time, Mox won, but via roll-up. Hangman was pissed that that was the ending of the match and wanted more to it.

Mox agreed to a Texas Death Match to settle things once and for all. Hangman’s buddies the Dark Order showed up, despite Hangman’s insistence that they keep their distance from him during this feud. Dark Order leader Evil Uno told Hangman to shut the gently caress up and got in Mox’s face, showing that he was not afraid of him. The two had a singles match and while Uno looked impressive, he was still beaten into a bloody pulp by Mox.

Mox won via sleeper hold, but refused to release the hold. Hangman attacked him afterwards and busted him open. Sometime that night, the bloody Mox recorded a promo about how he lives for this poo poo and Hangman has no idea what he’s in for.

CHRIS JERICHO VS. RICKY STARKS

The Jericho Appreciation Society is Banned from Ringside


After failing to win the AEW World Championship, Ricky Starks was offered a spot in the Jericho Appreciation Society. Ricky refused and instead made fun of Jericho, which made him a victim of the JAS.

Jericho was having issues himself. He had just lost the ROH World Championship to Claudio Castagnoli. A few days later, he lost to unknown wrestler Action Andretti, and when we finally got Jericho vs. Starks, Jericho once again ate the pin. Not that it meant too much to Starks, as he was immediately jumped by the JAS.

Starks and Andretti kept antagonizing the JAS, but the numbers game was too much again and again. Starks wanted another shot against Jericho, but Jericho refused. The only way he’d let him earn one was a gauntlet match against various JAS members and Starks failed.

Starks decided to mess with Jericho and publicly announced that he would be facing someone other than Jericho at Revolution. He offered an open contract to whoever wanted a PPV match. Comedy jobber Pretty Peter Avalon jumped at the chance, but a jealous Jericho laid him out. Jericho didn’t like that Starks was looking past him and insisted on signing the contract, even going so far as to ban his faction from ringside.

To Starks, this all went according to plan.

CHRISTIAN CAGE VS. JUNGLE BOY JACK PERRY

Final Burial Match


For a long time, Christian Cage was Jungle Boy’s mentor. Then, when the time was right, he betrayed Jungle Boy and revealed that he was pissed about losing to him in a battle royal from way earlier. He made fun of Jungle Boy’s dead dad, hit on Jungle Boy’s mom, and got Jungle Boy’s tag partner Luchasaurus to turn on him as well.

They were supposed to have a singles match at All Out, but Christian was injured, so they just had Luchasaurus jump Jungle Boy, lay him out, and have Christian get the easy pin. Christian vanished after that in order to heal up, allowing Jungle Boy to at least get his revenge on Luchasaurus.

Jungle Boy laid fairly low in the weeks that followed, including a short-lived alliance with Hook. He announced his plans to win a singles title in 2023. Christian made his grand return to respond, only for Jungle Boy to jump him immediately. Jungle Boy was going to deliver a Conchairto, but hesitated long enough for Christian to hit a low-blow.

Christian is ready for their big blow-off match, claiming that HE will have a singles title in 2023. Jungle Boy’s response was a pre-taped video of him digging a grave for Christian Cage. He later explained that he intends to literally bury Christian and now that’s what the match is all about.

MARK BRISCOE AND THE LUCHA BROTHERS VS. ARI DAIVARI, JOSH WOODS, AND TONY NESE

After the untimely death of Jay Briscoe, his goofy, lovable brother Mark joined the AEW roster. While doing an interview, he was accosted by Mark Sterling, legal counsel and manager, who wanted to recruit Mark Briscoe. Briscoe politely told him no, which caused Sterling’s goons to antagonize him.

The Lucha Brothers have crossed paths with Ari Daivari and Tony Nese several times over the past few weeks. After Daivari and Nese were eliminated in the first tag team battle royal, they weren’t invited to enter the following week’s Casino Tag Team Battle Royal. They crashed it anyway, making sure to beat down the Lucha Brothers and helping eliminate them.

Now Briscoe and the Lucha Brothers are joining forces on the pre-show.

MakaVillian
Aug 16, 2003

Well, in Whoville they say - that his tiny hands grew three sizes that day.

Tbh I'm only interested in the main event and Mox v Hangman which is a shame. Maybe the rest of the PPV will pleasantly surprise everyone

Edit: Jade Cargill needs to go to Japan or something and wrestle non stop for 3 months to get some more experience

MakaVillian fucked around with this message at 07:46 on Mar 4, 2023

Archer666
Dec 27, 2008

Kennel
May 1, 2008

BAWWW-UNH!

Baron von Eevl
Jan 24, 2005

WHITE NOISE
GENERATOR

🔊😴
What the gently caress

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant
I like what Mr. LeHommes says! Makes a lot of sense!

Baron von Eevl
Jan 24, 2005

WHITE NOISE
GENERATOR

🔊😴
Vince is pulling a Mr Snrub over here.

The Last Call
Sep 9, 2011

Rehabilitating sinner
https://twitter.com/BrandonThurston/status/1641778330285342720?s=20
https://twitter.com/BrandonThurston/status/1641787224449597441
https://twitter.com/BrandonThurston/status/1641825752113901568

Coming back to a screen near you soon.

Rumor is he's made some creative suggestions.

16-bit Butt-Head
Dec 25, 2014
i am going to buy the wwe

Baron von Eevl
Jan 24, 2005

WHITE NOISE
GENERATOR

🔊😴
Ok but instead of firing him make him a jobber.

im saint germain
Jan 30, 2021

i've come from the future to tell you all we have to stop party rock before it returns
lmao now he looks even more like Fred Trump

Jamesman
Nov 19, 2004

"First off, let me start by saying curly light blond hair does not suit Hyomin at all. Furthermore,"
Fun Shoe

I can't tell if this is real or not but it's loving hilarious either way.

spaceblancmange
Apr 19, 2018

#essereFerrari


lmao

ncumbered_by_idgits
Sep 20, 2008

im saint germain posted:

lmao now he looks even more like Fred Trump

Wait! That’s recent?

Baron von Eevl
Jan 24, 2005

WHITE NOISE
GENERATOR

🔊😴
It's literally from last night.

16-bit Butt-Head
Dec 25, 2014
thats guy incognito

The Last Call
Sep 9, 2011

Rehabilitating sinner
Someone at WWE getting fired:

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
I read that as Hall of Farmers.

Szyznyk
Mar 4, 2008

The Last Call posted:

Someone at WWE getting fired:



You wanted Hell in a Cell you got it.

Kennel
May 1, 2008

BAWWW-UNH!
*Elimination Chamber

Bishopvi
Nov 12, 2003

And then he gives me a smile that just seems so genuinely sweet with just the right touch of shyness that unexpected warmth rushes through me.
I've only read a little but can someone who witnessed the Shane O'Mac v Miz mystery match tell me what the crap happened?

Cat Hatter
Oct 24, 2006

Hatters gonna hat.
Remember that time Vince tore both his quads just climbing into the ring? Seems it's genetic.

Snoop did a great job saving the segment though.

TheSwizzler
May 13, 2005

LETTIN THE CAT OUTTA THE BAG
Snoop thinking on his feet was cool still

real wrestlefans though? they're all about the Imp Zone Wrestling Federation these days:
https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=4027060

The Rabbi T. White
Jul 17, 2008





Cat Hatter posted:

Remember that time Vince tore both his quads just climbing into the ring? Seems it's genetic.

Snoop did a great job saving the segment though.

Years of performing in public on display. Just took over and made sure the show went on. Was fantastic.

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Cornwind Evil
Dec 14, 2004


The undisputed world champion of wrestling effortposting

Cat Hatter posted:

Remember that time Vince tore both his quads just climbing into the ring? Seems it's genetic.

Snoop did a great job saving the segment though.

Considering Shane's no longer a young man and the way he dances around, this seemed like an inevitable fate in retrospect.

When does Stephanie and/or Linda tear their quads to really make it a matching set?

(Still much better than Vince's stunner sell last year).

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