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Randallteal posted:Guesses: Also the "independent contractor" poo poo is a time bomb that's going to explode at some point and it's absolutely going to cost hundreds of millions
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# ? May 30, 2024 09:53 |
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I think the biggest draw would be the WWE vault, which is massive and I don't even think a majority of it is on the WWE Network/Peacock from what I've heard they have in terms of tapes from the territory days. There's no real reason for a media company to buy out the WWE when they can just contract a wrestling fed to air their shows on their channel or service. That way they don't have to deal with aforementioned costs of touring and the HR nightmare that is probably WWE's day to day operations. Whenever they have interviews about backstage conditions and stuff like the Bayley interview where she doesn't believe any company could move that many people around regularly, it feels like they're on the edge of something crazy. I'm sure Vince and crew have done their work smashing unions and keeping the workers in a cult like state of helplessness but with AEW showing things can be different, I feel like more and more workers are catching on and realizing they don't have to put up with poo poo anymore. The transient nature of the business probably tamps down any sort of labor actions but it's always been there and I can't see it going away. You really don't want to be caught holding the ball when that happens and it's not worth that for a bunch of WCCW and NWA tapes.
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# ? Feb 20, 2023 17:29 |
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The Prime Time Players are prepared to make an offer of MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.
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# ? Feb 20, 2023 17:46 |
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Charity Porno posted:They posted record profits during the pandemic because they weren't touring. The actual house shows that aren't PPVs are almost revenue neutral, they do it because it advertises the product. Eh, I don't think running "Disney On Ice" by-the-numbers shows in Boise, Idaho does anything for advertising that having five hours of weekly primetime television doesn't do better. They're something of a relic from most of wrestling history, where television was something that you took a loss on if you had to in order to drive money from ticket sales. Nowadays, WWE could give away tickets for free (other than maybe the showpiece stadium events) and the difference would be negligible compared to the television money, but if you've spent fifty years running a show from town to town every night there are going to be a lot of people culturally committed to that idea as "the business".
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# ? Feb 21, 2023 00:41 |
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That's my point though, they could stop touring tomorrow and if it had any effect on the bottom line it'd be increasing profits. It's a relic that's wasteful of time, money, and their talent.
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# ? Feb 21, 2023 00:57 |
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house shows own though since the show is just for the live crowd, you get to see what wrestlers can do without having to work around tv production bullshit like the hard cam and match time having to fit in a certain window and commercial breaks and replays and kevin dunn's horrible camerawork and the commentary team's stilted corpospeak taking you back to what happened last week and the crowd feel is totally different. no front row regulars sitting there disinterestedly out of some bizarre sense of obligation, no smarks trying to get themselves over or make a point about the program (roman reigns notoriously got cheered at house shows while he was being booed on tv for being overpushed) it's just you, an audience of filthy wrestling enjoyers, and the wrestling match right in front of you. no pause, no rewind, just big bulky bastards telling a story with their bodies for a cheering crowd https://twitter.com/jzzza/status/1546010246685925377 tickets are also pretty cheap for an evening of live entertainment my understanding is wrestlers like doing them, too. it's more personal, lower pressure, and they get a cut of the gate
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# ? Feb 21, 2023 02:08 |
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i would watch ai wrestling league
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# ? Feb 21, 2023 03:45 |
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GolfHole posted:i would watch ai wrestling league They used to have leagues they would do using the WWE video games, they'd write storylines and poo poo and then upload them with live premieres weekly, like they were actual TV
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# ? Feb 21, 2023 05:30 |
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Charity Porno posted:They used to have leagues they would do using the WWE video games, they'd write storylines and poo poo and then upload them with live premieres weekly, like they were actual TV there are a till people that do that although I think a lot have moved on to like wrestling empire or fire pro
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# ? Feb 21, 2023 05:42 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByO5l00uxKY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znqCR8IVRxY Charity Porno fucked around with this message at 05:53 on Feb 21, 2023 |
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There is always Bully Demise.
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# ? Feb 21, 2023 08:10 |
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AlmightyBob posted:there are a till people that do that although I think a lot have moved on to like wrestling empire or fire pro You can do it in a lot of things, seen one youtuber have a AI Smash Ultimate league complete with increasingly silly storylines and eventually a custom anime intro.
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# ? Feb 21, 2023 08:29 |
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Cubone posted:my understanding is wrestlers like doing them, too. it's more personal, lower pressure, and they get a cut of the gate So you're saying that Vince is going to ban house shows?
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# ? Feb 21, 2023 13:58 |
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the enclosed pool area has been reopened https://forums.somethingawful.com/forumdisplay.php?forumid=681
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# ? Feb 26, 2023 04:55 |
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TheSwizzler posted:the enclosed pool area has been reopened
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This Sunday is the next big AEW PPV, Revolution 2023. Even though AEW has fixed its problem with ROH oversaturation, the PPV is still being criticized for having a pretty weak build outside of Hangman vs. Moxley. It doesn't help that the main event is guaranteed to go an hour. Still, it should probably be a pretty good show at the very least. Unless you're a big fan of women's wrestling as there's only one women's match and it's a loving mess. Even the TBS Championship is a non-factor because they've run out of story to tell with Jade Cargill and don't seem interested in killing her streak any time soon. Here's the card and stories behind the matches. MJF (C) VS. BRYAN DANIELSON 60-Minute Iron Man Match for the AEW World Championship At the last PPV, Full Gear, MJF won the AEW title off of Jon Moxley thanks in part to Moxley’s mentor William Regal switching sides and interfering for MJF. On the following Dynamite, Moxley was fully prepared to brutalize Regal, but fellow protégé Bryan Danielson came out to calm Mox down and explain that despite Regal’s actions, he’s still a fragile man who has made mistakes. If Mox really tried to gently caress him up, he could potentially kill the guy. Mox held back and told Regal to get the gently caress out of there. A week later, MJF punched Regal in the back of the head with brass knuckles, showing that he had no real interest in having Regal in his corner after all. Danielson was horrified to see this happen. Danielson wanted to face MJF at Revolution and MJF decided to do his usual routine of, “Oh, you want to wrestle me? Well, then you have to win a bunch of weekly matches in a row!” Danielson rolled his eyes because he didn’t have to do that. He could just win matches in general and become #1 contender. That said, he agreed to the terms as long as he could choose the match type. Since Danielson wrestles all the time and MJF wrestles very, very sparingly, Danielson said it would be an hour-long iron man match. MJF kept stacking the odds against Danielson, getting more and more desperate by the week. Danielson proceeded to win every match put in front of him. MJF started to get more unhinged and even went on this bizarre rant about the time he got in a car accident in high school while getting road head and put his date in the driver’s seat before the cops could get there. Later, he did an angry promo about how his fiancée dumped him. Probably over publicly bragging about whatever the gently caress that car incident thing was. MJF now claims that he’s angry at Danielson because all MJF wants is a family and Danielson ignores his own via his self-destructive wrestling obsession. Danielson has sidestepped all of MJF’s insults and warns him that MJF is going to get his loving head kicked in. JAMIE HAYTER (C) VS. SARAYA VS. RUBY SOHO AEW Women’s Championship This storyline is an absolute loving mess. Cripes. So the last PPV had Saraya (WWE’s Paige) making her big return to wrestling by beating Britt Baker. Afterwards, they announced a big tag match that would happen about a month or so later of Britt and Jamie Hayter against Saraya and a mystery partner. Considering the state of the wrestling world at the time, the money was on Mercedez Mone, formerly Sasha Banks, showing up in AEW. She would be a huge get for the company, but also she was crazy expensive and AEW only likes doing one women’s match per show, so... it was up in the air. A week before that tag match, Saraya had a pre-taped segment where she talked to top women’s faces Hikaru Shida and Toni Storm about how one of them was going to be her choice for partner, then announced it would be Storm. Shida was openly pissed about this and it looked like 1) any chance of getting Mone for the match fell through and 2) Shida was going to turn heel. Buuuuut then I guess Shida got injured or something as she accidentally-on-purpose cost Saraya and Storm the tag match and basically just vanished from TV. Saraya and Storm turned heel and started with a gimmick that was essentially “we were in WWE, so we’re better than you.” Britt and Hayter became faces out of osmosis. Then both parties tried recruiting Ruby Soho to their side. Ruby really did not care about this feud and just wanted to be left alone. Also, Saraya and Storm would spray paint people a bunch, leading to an gigantic WHAT IN THE gently caress moment where Saraya would spray paint Storm’s butt right before Storm would do her trademark “running butt to the opponent’s face” move. It looked really stupid at best. The storyline started to finally hold together after Ruby simply made it apparent that she wants a title shot against Jamie Hayter. Now it’s a triple threat match with Saraya as the third and things are a bit easier to follow. THE GUNNS (C) VS. THE ACCLAIMED VS. JAY LETHAL/JEFF JARRETT VS. BEST FRIENDS* AEW Tag Team Championship The Acclaimed had a successful run as tag champs, recently getting a couple wins over challengers Jay Lethal and Jeff Jarrett. The Acclaimed are mentored by Billy Gunn, which is something Billy’s sons resent them all for. Austin Gunn and Colten Gunn got a title match and somehow came out of it as the new tag champs. It was announced that the Gunns would defend the tag titles at Revolution against the Acclaimed and two other teams. The first team would be decided through a tag team battle royal. Lethal and Jarrett won thanks to the help of their giant henchman, Satnam Singh. The runners up were Best Friends, Chuck Taylor and Trent. When interviewed about the situation, Best Friends were jumped backstage by the Gunns’ own giant buddy Big Bill. Orange Cassidy found out about this and offered to take care of Big Bill in a match for Orange’s All-Atlantic Championship. With fellow Best Friend member Danhausen in his corner, Orange barely squeaked out a win. The final spot would be decided via a Tag Team Casino Battle Royal (a tag team Royal Rumble, basically), but Chuck and Trent were deemed incapable of wrestling due to their beating. Danhausen and a hurt Orange Cassidy decided to take their spot, which seemed to annoy Trent. Trent had recently lost a shot at Orange’s All-Atlantic title and shadows of resentment were starting to show. Of course, Danhausen and Orange Cassidy won the Tag Team Casino Battle Royal, meaning Orange has a chance at becoming a double champion. THE ELITE (C) VS. THE HOUSE OF BLACK AEW Trios Championship There’s not really much to this one. The Elite spent a couple months doing a Best of 7 series against Death Triangle over the trios titles. The Elite won and then moved on to the next challengers. While they were doing a backstage promo, there was a quick flicker on screen of the House of Black. House of Black has been taunting the Elite via cutting the lights and appearing on the ramp. Recently, when the Elite were walking out to cut a promo (I guess), House of Black teleported behind them, shut off the lights, and laid the champs out. SAMOA JOE (C) VS. WARDLOW AEW TNT Championship Wardlow and Samoa Joe used to kick rear end side-by-side as WarJoe. Wardlow was TNT Champion and Samoa Joe was the ROH TV Champion. Wardlow cut a promo where he mentioned wanting to win more titles and Joe immediately turned on him, feeling like that was a threat. They had a triple threat match for the TNT Championship with Powerhouse Hobbs and Joe stole the win. He became double champion. Joe and Wardlow had a match and Joe hosed Wardlow up to the point that the referee stopped it. Afterwards, Joe cut off Wardlow’s topknot. Joe lost the title to Darby Allin, took a break for a little while, then came back and regained the title. Shortly after, Wardlow returned with a shorter haircut, super-pissed. Wardlow later explained that he had a complicated relationship with his own father, who usually sported long hair. After the two reconciled, Wardlow’s dad revealed he had cancer. The chemo caused him to lose that hair and after Wardlow’s father’s death, he chose to grow out his hair as a tribute. Joe knew that when cutting the hair, so Wardlow wants to get his revenge. JON MOXLEY VS. HANGMAN ADAM PAGE Texas Death Match Back when Moxley was champion, Hangman earned a title shot. At one point in the match, Hangman ate a nasty clothesline that legit knocked him out. The match was ended abruptly and Hangman had to stay off TV for a while due to concussion protocol. When Hangman came out weeks later to confront Moxley, Mox made a joke about Hangman’s injury and Hangman angrily attacked him. Hangman did not like Mox making light of Hangman’s inability to remember his own baby son’s name. They had a rematch and Hangman won. Mox seemed pretty out of it afterwards and Hangman appeared somewhat guilty about it, but moved on. When being interviewed by Renee Paquette, Mox’s wife, Hangman asked about how he was doing and it was mentioned that the two do have a mutual respect. Regardless, another match was put together. This time, Mox won, but via roll-up. Hangman was pissed that that was the ending of the match and wanted more to it. Mox agreed to a Texas Death Match to settle things once and for all. Hangman’s buddies the Dark Order showed up, despite Hangman’s insistence that they keep their distance from him during this feud. Dark Order leader Evil Uno told Hangman to shut the gently caress up and got in Mox’s face, showing that he was not afraid of him. The two had a singles match and while Uno looked impressive, he was still beaten into a bloody pulp by Mox. Mox won via sleeper hold, but refused to release the hold. Hangman attacked him afterwards and busted him open. Sometime that night, the bloody Mox recorded a promo about how he lives for this poo poo and Hangman has no idea what he’s in for. CHRIS JERICHO VS. RICKY STARKS The Jericho Appreciation Society is Banned from Ringside After failing to win the AEW World Championship, Ricky Starks was offered a spot in the Jericho Appreciation Society. Ricky refused and instead made fun of Jericho, which made him a victim of the JAS. Jericho was having issues himself. He had just lost the ROH World Championship to Claudio Castagnoli. A few days later, he lost to unknown wrestler Action Andretti, and when we finally got Jericho vs. Starks, Jericho once again ate the pin. Not that it meant too much to Starks, as he was immediately jumped by the JAS. Starks and Andretti kept antagonizing the JAS, but the numbers game was too much again and again. Starks wanted another shot against Jericho, but Jericho refused. The only way he’d let him earn one was a gauntlet match against various JAS members and Starks failed. Starks decided to mess with Jericho and publicly announced that he would be facing someone other than Jericho at Revolution. He offered an open contract to whoever wanted a PPV match. Comedy jobber Pretty Peter Avalon jumped at the chance, but a jealous Jericho laid him out. Jericho didn’t like that Starks was looking past him and insisted on signing the contract, even going so far as to ban his faction from ringside. To Starks, this all went according to plan. CHRISTIAN CAGE VS. JUNGLE BOY JACK PERRY Final Burial Match For a long time, Christian Cage was Jungle Boy’s mentor. Then, when the time was right, he betrayed Jungle Boy and revealed that he was pissed about losing to him in a battle royal from way earlier. He made fun of Jungle Boy’s dead dad, hit on Jungle Boy’s mom, and got Jungle Boy’s tag partner Luchasaurus to turn on him as well. They were supposed to have a singles match at All Out, but Christian was injured, so they just had Luchasaurus jump Jungle Boy, lay him out, and have Christian get the easy pin. Christian vanished after that in order to heal up, allowing Jungle Boy to at least get his revenge on Luchasaurus. Jungle Boy laid fairly low in the weeks that followed, including a short-lived alliance with Hook. He announced his plans to win a singles title in 2023. Christian made his grand return to respond, only for Jungle Boy to jump him immediately. Jungle Boy was going to deliver a Conchairto, but hesitated long enough for Christian to hit a low-blow. Christian is ready for their big blow-off match, claiming that HE will have a singles title in 2023. Jungle Boy’s response was a pre-taped video of him digging a grave for Christian Cage. He later explained that he intends to literally bury Christian and now that’s what the match is all about. MARK BRISCOE AND THE LUCHA BROTHERS VS. ARI DAIVARI, JOSH WOODS, AND TONY NESE After the untimely death of Jay Briscoe, his goofy, lovable brother Mark joined the AEW roster. While doing an interview, he was accosted by Mark Sterling, legal counsel and manager, who wanted to recruit Mark Briscoe. Briscoe politely told him no, which caused Sterling’s goons to antagonize him. The Lucha Brothers have crossed paths with Ari Daivari and Tony Nese several times over the past few weeks. After Daivari and Nese were eliminated in the first tag team battle royal, they weren’t invited to enter the following week’s Casino Tag Team Battle Royal. They crashed it anyway, making sure to beat down the Lucha Brothers and helping eliminate them. Now Briscoe and the Lucha Brothers are joining forces on the pre-show.
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# ? Mar 4, 2023 06:52 |
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Tbh I'm only interested in the main event and Mox v Hangman which is a shame. Maybe the rest of the PPV will pleasantly surprise everyone Edit: Jade Cargill needs to go to Japan or something and wrestle non stop for 3 months to get some more experience MakaVillian fucked around with this message at 07:46 on Mar 4, 2023 |
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Charity Porno posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByO5l00uxKY
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# ? Apr 1, 2023 16:28 |
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What the gently caress
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# ? Apr 1, 2023 17:46 |
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I like what Mr. LeHommes says! Makes a lot of sense!
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# ? Apr 1, 2023 18:03 |
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Vince is pulling a Mr Snrub over here.
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# ? Apr 1, 2023 18:11 |
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https://twitter.com/BrandonThurston/status/1641778330285342720?s=20 https://twitter.com/BrandonThurston/status/1641787224449597441 https://twitter.com/BrandonThurston/status/1641825752113901568 Coming back to a screen near you soon. Rumor is he's made some creative suggestions.
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# ? Apr 1, 2023 18:26 |
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i am going to buy the wwe
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# ? Apr 1, 2023 19:27 |
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Ok but instead of firing him make him a jobber.
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# ? Apr 1, 2023 20:02 |
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lmao now he looks even more like Fred Trump
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# ? Apr 1, 2023 21:01 |
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I can't tell if this is real or not but it's loving hilarious either way.
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# ? Apr 1, 2023 22:11 |
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lmao
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# ? Apr 1, 2023 23:02 |
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im saint germain posted:lmao now he looks even more like Fred Trump Wait! That’s recent?
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# ? Apr 2, 2023 02:40 |
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It's literally from last night.
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# ? Apr 2, 2023 05:08 |
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thats guy incognito
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# ? Apr 2, 2023 05:29 |
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Someone at WWE getting fired:
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# ? Apr 2, 2023 05:52 |
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I read that as Hall of Farmers.
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# ? Apr 2, 2023 05:54 |
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The Last Call posted:Someone at WWE getting fired: You wanted Hell in a Cell you got it.
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# ? Apr 2, 2023 13:17 |
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*Elimination Chamber
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# ? Apr 2, 2023 13:38 |
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I've only read a little but can someone who witnessed the Shane O'Mac v Miz mystery match tell me what the crap happened?
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# ? Apr 3, 2023 03:47 |
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Remember that time Vince tore both his quads just climbing into the ring? Seems it's genetic. Snoop did a great job saving the segment though.
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# ? Apr 3, 2023 03:56 |
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Snoop thinking on his feet was cool still real wrestlefans though? they're all about the Imp Zone Wrestling Federation these days: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=4027060
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# ? Apr 3, 2023 03:59 |
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Cat Hatter posted:Remember that time Vince tore both his quads just climbing into the ring? Seems it's genetic. Years of performing in public on display. Just took over and made sure the show went on. Was fantastic.
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# ? May 30, 2024 09:53 |
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Cat Hatter posted:Remember that time Vince tore both his quads just climbing into the ring? Seems it's genetic. Considering Shane's no longer a young man and the way he dances around, this seemed like an inevitable fate in retrospect. When does Stephanie and/or Linda tear their quads to really make it a matching set? (Still much better than Vince's stunner sell last year).
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