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ASAPI posted:We have any Tennessee goons in the house?  TN goon, and didn’t even know this was in the pipeline but I refuse to recognize or read about state politics that don’t lead to legal weed or free college (We actually made 2 years school free to all!) because it’s bound to be depressing poo poo like Marsha Blackburn becoming a senator or cops killing someone. It’s a really pretty state if you can… cognitive dissonance away a lot of the bad poo poo. Beats Texas. And Missouri.
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facialimpediment posted:For the full review of what's going on about that bill, though from a non-Tennessee perspective, Chris Geidner is my guy: Thanks for that. It is about what I found as well, but wanted a sanity check. I'm confused about the apparent lack of coverage on this, it seems like it is mostly being talked about in entertainment news. Maybe it's getting drowned out by other news right now.
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ASAPI posted:Thanks for that. It is about what I found as well, but wanted a sanity check. I'm confused about the apparent lack of coverage on this, it seems like it is mostly being talked about in entertainment news. Maybe it's getting drowned out by other news right now. This is the difference between stupid loudmouth fascism and competent quiet fascism. joat mon fucked around with this message at 21:36 on Feb 24, 2023 |
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Feb 24, 2023 21:32
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joat mon posted:This is the difference between stupid loudmouth fascism and competent quiet fascism. It's the kind of thing that'd make you paranoid about getting distracted, isn't it
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Feb 24, 2023 21:40
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facialimpediment posted:For the full review of what's going on about that bill, though from a non-Tennessee perspective, Chris Geidner is my guy: would this also outlaw public displays of movies like mrs doubtfire?
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ASAPI posted:Thanks for that. It is about what I found as well, but wanted a sanity check. I'm confused about the apparent lack of coverage on this, it seems like it is mostly being talked about in entertainment news. Maybe it's getting drowned out by other news right now. The New York Times can't seem to figure out how to cover trans issues right (possibly/likely by design, jesus their leadership sucks). Meanwhile the state/local politicians just go "you're reading the bill wrong, we're just protecting our kids from pornography". And these bills are being passed by one-party states in a flurry of activity. The news has been very boring lately, but stories like these aren't going to generate the clicks. It definitely doesn't help that transpeople are a teeny, tiny minority that can't muster up the numbers to defend themselves in these one-party states. Personally, I thought this was just 2022 election bullshit that was immediately going to die off, but Republicans found a racism-like dial they can crank to 11 for their base's support. And the overall strategy is a lot like the abortion restrictions - near-total bans due the laws written so vague that the providers don't want the legal liability. Edit: ded posted:would this also outlaw public displays of movies like mrs doubtfire? Probably. That fits the "near-total bans due the laws written so vague that the providers don't want the legal liability" idea.
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ded posted:would this also outlaw public displays of movies like mrs doubtfire? Who would enforce that?
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Stultus Maximus posted:Who would enforce that? Please, I’m sure some mega church is just standing by to lend out brown shirt moral enforcers.
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Stultus Maximus posted:Who would enforce that? I'm sure Liberty University would be happy to establish a Moral Law Enforcement major and send undergrads out to do this.
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McNally posted:I'm sure Liberty University would be happy to establish a Moral Law Enforcement major and send undergrads out to do this. To enforce the law against a Robin Williams movie? Not a chance.
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Stultus Maximus posted:To enforce the law against a Robin Williams movie? Not a chance. If it lets them target a minority with their hatred they'll absolutely do it, Robin Williams be damned. Hating and attacking people is what they're all about now.
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ded posted:would this also outlaw public displays of movies like mrs doubtfire? In a pre-2016 world, no. Even today, most likely no. The statute seeks to regulate performances, not depictions of performances. In the statute, male and female impersonators are included with "topless dancers, go-go dancers, exotic dancers, strippers, ... or similar entertainers" for regulation purposes. If Mrs. Doubtfire was included, it would also include public (or where kids could view it) displays of any movie with strippers, gogo dancers, etc. If you want to dig, here's the proposed law: https://www.capitol.tn.gov/Bills/113/Bill/HB0009.pdf and the statutes it would amend: https://law.justia.com/codes/tennessee/2019/title-7/local-government-functions/chapter-51/part-14/section-7-51-1401/ https://law.justia.com/codes/tennessee/2010/title-7/chapter-51/part-14/7-51-1407 e: Interestingly, male/female impersonators get a save that topless dancers, strippers etc. don't get - an impersonator's performance must also be "entertainment that appeals to a prurient interest" to be illegal. (But that's going to be a jury question to be decided in whatever corner of TN it comes up in. The law doesn't ban drag shows any more that it bans strip clubs. What it does is shut down drag queen story hours at the library unless you're going to have the ACLU and a bondsman standing by ready to go. joat mon fucked around with this message at 22:36 on Feb 24, 2023 |
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Stultus Maximus posted:To enforce the law against a Robin Williams movie? Not a chance. He killed himself, he's beyond redemption
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I took classes with Liberty kids, the only thing they’re attacking is their bedsheets with piss
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CommieGIR posted:Scott Adams is a product of working in an office. It's literally what the comic is about Yeah I was being sarcastic or facetious or whatever the term is.
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bird food bathtub posted:If it lets them target a minority with their hatred they'll absolutely do it, Robin Williams be damned. Hating and attacking people is what they're all about now. 
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@facialimpediment, more about china's pivot on arming russia https://twitter.com/christogrozev/status/1628858090547253249?s=20
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bird food bathtub posted:If it lets them target a minority with their hatred they'll absolutely do it, Robin Williams be damned. Hating and attacking people is what they're all about now. Since when do the cops and prosecutors need to be even handed with enforcement of laws? My point is that these laws exist to be selectively enforced against persecuted groups and that majority groups can violate them with no concern. The "wouldn't this bad [normal activity]?" is meaningless because of course cis whites aren't the targets.
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Kesper North posted:@facialimpediment, more about china's pivot on arming russia China really wants to see how far they can push it before they get sanctioned.
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Kesper North posted:@facialimpediment, more about china's pivot on arming russia A few things I've learned from Perun videos: drones generally only have a 3-10 sortie lifespan before they go boom from one cause or another, so unclear how much 100 kamikaze drones will impact the battlefield. Also, the consumption rate of artillery shells is loving incredible, nobody has enough. And comically, Iran is providing artillery shells to both sides. Apparently any country with artillery rounds is getting the ol' Lord of War treatment. So between Iran selling to mystery buyers, and intercepted shipments, Iran's shells are going in both directions.
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facialimpediment posted:Apparently any country with artillery rounds is getting the ol' Lord of War treatment. So between Iran selling to mystery buyers, and intercepted shipments, Iran's shells are going in both directions. I wonder what the literal Lord of War is up to now that’s he’s out of prison.
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Insane that China might be the biggest foreign policy challenge of Biden's term.
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:How unexpected you mean this is a proxy war of sorts?
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Godholio posted:Insane that China might be the biggest foreign policy challenge of Biden's term. It was always going to be, the surprising part is the Russian detour along the way.
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Tiny Timbs posted:It was always going to be, the surprising part is the Russian detour along the way. Initially sure, China makes a lot of sense. After the invasion, I figured nothing would top that. But the West has reacted so effectively and with little public disagreement that they made it look easy...I didn't quite expect that, so China pushing to get back out in front just isn't something I'd considered.
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Godholio posted:Insane that China might be the biggest foreign policy challenge of Biden's term. No, that’s gonna be the arc for Season 2 https://apnews.com/article/jill-biden-joe-biden-reelection-1659403d211d40212abbfef3b9847491
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Godholio posted:Initially sure, China makes a lot of sense. After the invasion, I figured nothing would top that. But the West has reacted so effectively and with little public disagreement that they made it look easy...I didn't quite expect that, so China pushing to get back out in front just isn't something I'd considered. i'm hanging out for my prediction of china going all barbarossa on russia 'oh hey yeah we're sending 5000000 trucks your way along with men to unload them, let us know if you need anything else'
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:i'm hanging out for my prediction of china going all barbarossa on russia Given that China still depends on Western income to maintain their economy...best of luck to them.
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CommieGIR posted:Given that China still depends on Western income to maintain their economy...best of luck to them. Sparta and Athens would never war over the Peloponesians , their economies are too tied together!
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Steezo posted:Sparta and Athens would never war over the Peloponesians , their economies are too tied together! We're not talking city states here. China is wholly dependent on exports to support their economy. If they were not, they'd likely already had tried invading Taiwan.
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CommieGIR posted:We're not talking city states here. China is wholly dependent on exports to support their economy. If they were not, they'd likely already had tried invading Taiwan. Rome would never go to war with Carthage! Their economies are too tied together! what I'm saying is "but the economy!" hasn't stopped a war from happening between belligerents ever. Even the US and China in Korea.
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Steezo posted:Rome would never go to war with Carthage! Their economies are too tied together! What economy did China have during the Korean war? Most of the economic growth happened in the 1990s.
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mlmp08 posted:https://twitter.com/armystrang/status/1629310150241669124?s=46&t=Uiw5LJj9dPRqqcJvx5EEdA Good.
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CommieGIR posted:What economy did China have during the Korean war? Most of the economic growth happened in the 1990s. It would take a great leap forward for you to understand, wouldn't it?
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:He killed himself, he's beyond redemption yknow, i hadnt thought about it before, but i guess What Dreams May Come is arguably a very different movie now McNally posted:I'm sure Liberty University would be happy to establish a Moral Law Enforcement major and send undergrads out to do this. they're busy just filling every job in Lynchburg that needs a degree. apparently they've started winding their way into my dad's work and... aren't great at their jobs, which isn't something you really want at a place where criticality accidents are a concern the school district actually used to be quite good, but has apparently massively gone downhill since the last generation started retiring and getting replaced with Liberty grads
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mlmp08 posted:https://twitter.com/armystrang/status/1629310150241669124?s=46&t=Uiw5LJj9dPRqqcJvx5EEdA Hahahah eat poo poo, good move.
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lmfao someone tubgirl'd the Latin America thread in D&D. Was not expecting that today. E: someone's ragequiting. I counted 35 posts of tubgirl in that user's post history. All in D&D. ayy lmao (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST) TheWeedNumber fucked around with this message at 15:32 on Feb 25, 2023 |
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