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Play posted:They closed the gbs Ukraine thread because a bunch of loving tankies and obvious concern trolls cried nonstop about it. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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That's an awful decision by the mods to close the GBS thread because it was really good and no one had any issue with it except a few weirdass concern trolls but at least there's still one non-Russia/Ukraine Gravedancing thread supporting thread left. I can't believe the United States has done this. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST) Toxic Mental fucked around with this message at 07:25 on Mar 5, 2023 |
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Feb 25, 2023 04:15
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The meta forum is closed, and I'm not giving you money to buy access to private messages, so I'll say it here: closing the GBS thread is fundamentally unacceptable. I waited a very long time to rejoin the forums for Lowtax to leave, and I now regret it. Both the administrative staff and a disappointing core of posters have harassed that thread and anyone using it to exhaustion. What was a strong show of support for a peaceful nation invaded by war criminals plus a handy summary of actual events on the ground (as opposed to the misery porn produced in regular mass media) has been attacked and silenced multiple times. I will no longer tolerate this abusive behavior. I will not buy anything from this owner, and I can read old comic strips somewhere else. Long live Ukraine. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Feb 25, 2023 04:16
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Bad decision, reopen the GBS thread. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Feb 25, 2023 04:19
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There's actually a new feedback forum called Something Awful Discussion. Please take your concerns about the GBS thread to SAD or PM an admin. I have absolutely nothing to do with GBS and no say in what goes on with that thread.
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Play posted:They closed the gbs Ukraine thread because a bunch of loving tankies and obvious concern trolls cried nonstop about it. Toxic Mental posted:That's an awful decision by the mods to close the GBS thread because it was really good and no one had any issue with it except a few weirdass concern trolls but at least there's still one non-Russia/Ukraine Gravedancing thread supporting thread left. Which really makes you wonder why other threads that are explicitly supporting that exist. Especially since the "content" was the reason for supposedly closing it, even though there's a thread in GBS for posting about huge shits you're taking. I guess I'll just bookmark this one. don Jaime posted:The meta forum is closed, and I'm not giving you money to buy access to private messages, so I'll say it here: closing the GBS thread is fundamentally unacceptable. Cartoon Man posted:Bad decision, reopen the GBS thread. Fritz the Horse posted:There's actually a new feedback forum called Something Awful Discussion. Please take your concerns about the GBS thread to SAD or PM an admin. I have absolutely nothing to do with GBS and no say in what goes on with that thread. DUHHH HURRR DUHHHH BLOODLUSTING GBS IS TOO DANGEROUS! (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Fritz the Horse posted:There's actually a new feedback forum called Something Awful Discussion. Please take your concerns about the GBS thread to SAD or PM an admin. I have absolutely nothing to do with GBS and no say in what goes on with that thread. There is a post up in SAD for discussing the GBS thread closure: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=4025159 but it's not open for posting yet but when it does open it'll be a better place to post about the GBS thread if you want your post to get seen by the admins and not probed
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Flavahbeast posted:There is a post up in SAD for discussing the GBS thread closure: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=4025159 but it's not open for posting yet Not sure I understand the point. Nobody waited until the new feedback forum was up to discuss the closure, so it’s clearly not something up for debate.
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Again, D&D mods have absolutely no say in decisions about GBS. Please take your issues to GBS mods and admins either via PMs, admin gmail, or the new feedback subforum. Posting about the GBS thread here accomplishes nothing but making GBS threads it up. You are of course welcome to participate in posting about the war in Ukraine, but this is D&D and D&D rules will apply.
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Cartoon Man posted:Bad decision, reopen the GBS thread.  smh at mods.... No hate at you D&D, continue roleplaying your wizards or whatever you do here (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Hello D&D Ukraine thread! I was directed to post here instead of GBS. I come here in good faith and I'm sure I won't be immediately probated for following instructions.
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I had a skim through the cspam thread but people were discussing how Poland had it coming in ww2 due to their appalling mistreatment of the USSR, so I guess dnd is where I'll be following developments in the war now! (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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cinci zoo sniper posted:[*]Allegedly funny shitposts are explicitly discouraged. The funny rule still works, but I'm humourless and the standard I'll hold the posts here to will be even higher than elsewhere. Your best bet is to make sure that your post has more than just your bit to it. So since it's getting a lot of GBS folks probed, I'd just like to point out that this specific thread does have some particular rules in the OP and that's mostly why folks are getting probed. Some of the relevant ones are quoted here. The idea is that this thread should exist mostly to discuss specific events happening, sharing current information and debating the likelihood of this or that thing happening (preferably backed up with sources). It turned out that getting too riled up about people in other forums or shitposting tended to get in the way of that, so a fairly strict moderation regime was put into place to keep things on track. For what it's worth the moderation has also come down pretty hard on tankies parachuting in here as well for hit-and-run shitposting, so we've mostly I think managed to keep things fairly informative and usually on track. If you just want to talk poo poo about Putin (and yes, he certainly deserves to have poo poo talked about him, you're not going to find many here who disagree) it's probably better to find another thread for that. This is more for gauging what Prigozhin's recent public posturing might mean for Kremlin court politics and how likely it is that Shoigu will come out on top in their little internal power struggle as well as what that might mean for events on the ground in Ukraine, and how that all impacts actions taken around Bakhmut, to take a recent example. It's a bit dry, but it's been pretty useful for getting a good gauge on what's actually going on I find.
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I'm not really interested in giving out cutesy probations to a bunch of people who want to introduce themselves or comment on GBS, CSPAM, whatever. This thread is for talking about the war in Ukraine, please post about that or I'll continue queuing arbitrarily long probations for folks that want to poo poo the thread up. edit: thanks, Tomn
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Nenonen posted:Just heard from radio news that Zelensky says he will meet with Xi. It would be funny if they had a candid talk and Volodimir was able to pull just the right strings for Xi to start putting actual pressure on Putin. Not that I expect that to happen, but one can dream... The position China just took on the war felt entirely like moral fluff attached to "just cease hostilities bro" so it's not feeling the best to me as a backdrop for talks
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I suspect China's diplomatic overtures will underestimate the resistance in Brussels, Paris, Berlin, etc. to the message of European strategic autonomy. China will extend the gesture and then feel unrewarded when Europe fails to respond. Continuing comments from Macron on l'idée d'autonomie stratégique will be seized upon as evidence that the message is working, when in fact the slogan in Western Europe itself has subtly shifted meaning from its original use and indeed now DC itself calls for Europe to take on a greater burden of its own hard-power collective defence in a scenario where soft power has unambiguously failed to deter invasion. The old context - an independent soft-power diplomatic line for Brussels on the various instabilities in the Arab world - has less salience. But Chinese diplomatic discourse will not notice because this is inconvenient for its conceptual outlook There is a real ideological divide, even if not explicated as clearly as the Cold War: are colour revolutions (a la Ukraine 2004, say) so intrinsically illegitimate that a territorial war is no less illegitimate - is there, in fact, no meaningful distinction between soft and hard power? Is it different if it's a soldier with a gun or a civilian dissident if either case results in a loss of the unilateral and orderly exercise of power from the center? (That this power is natural and rightful is taken as given - these are the legitimate security interests) (It wasn't that long ago that the West was on the opposite side of this debate, arguing that the various legalities established during the colonial period should be respected even during and after decolonization, and hence that the second world was undermining states in the third by promoting assorted popular revolutions, even after notional independence, that refused to respect these international agreements and commitments. The wave of colour revolutions flipped that script. The current font of legitimacy for the Western nations - winning reasonably free and fair popular elections - is not one much respected in the land of whole-process people's democracy either) ronya fucked around with this message at 08:14 on Feb 25, 2023 |
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Kavros posted:The position China just took on the war felt entirely like moral fluff attached to "just cease hostilities bro" so it's not feeling the best to me as a backdrop for talks I'm not sure if it got started by the US warning the China not to cross the line or some backroom stuff, but China making any noise at all is probably a good enough reason for Zelensky to get a dialogue going. It's basically a show of respect to China for their potential influence.
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Bret Devereaux of the ACOUP blog has a pretty succinct summary of the war so far, going over his predictions from the beginning of the war and talking a bit about what he thinks might happen next. It's a good read: https://acoup.blog/2023/02/24/collections-one-year-into-the-war-in-ukraine/ Also closing the GBS thread sucks rear end. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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https://twitter.com/maxseddon/status/1629039348669640706 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_PrZ-J7D3k In general it's surprising how little diplomats value just getting your message out One of the surprises of the war is the whole NAFO thing
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ronya posted:https://twitter.com/maxseddon/status/1629039348669640706 i mean its a solid analogie. its also a bit of damage control from the "green little men" fiasco during the obama term and biden seems to have learned from that, that russia goverment was gonna lie no matter what happened. so just spill there secrets and wait, worst that happens was putin decided not to risk it. clearly that didnt happen.
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Tomn posted:If you just want to talk poo poo about Putin (and yes, he certainly deserves to have poo poo talked about him, you're not going to find many here who disagree) it's probably better to find another thread for that. I'd like to quietly point out that I did find a thread for that. it was closed. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Feb 25, 2023 08:26
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And since this thread is also pro-Ukraine, this will be next. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Feb 25, 2023 08:35
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Well, that's one way to tell Eastern European goons to leave SA. I think I should take the hint this time. The holodomor joke thread is still open btw. cool cool cool (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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I thought that CSPAM thread was too spicy for me, what with the overt calls for genocide, support for certain Chinese actions in Xinjiang, and claims that George Soros was controlling particular aspects of international politics, so I’ll probably settle here and enjoy nice sensible discussions instead  Anyway I hope this thread doesn’t get closed too. e: this is off-topic, my bad. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST) Skellybones fucked around with this message at 08:52 on Feb 25, 2023 |
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Apparently everyone at the OSCE has better things to do than listen to anything Russia has to say https://twitter.com/i/status/1629161103333679105
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Lol at the gbs thread getting permanently shut down "because of complaints", just lol. Hopefully at least this one survives so I don't have to use loving reddit or something. Oh well. This is from yesterday when I was on a plane so maybe I missed it. Zelensky's going to meet Xi apparently, though there's no specific timeline. Despite China's dumbass position on the war that's the right thing to do imo even if the chance of actually influencing the policy is pretty slim. https://www.afr.com/world/europe/ukraine-s-zelensky-says-he-plans-to-meet-china-s-xi-20230225-p5cniu (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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According to complaint from a bunch trust fund westerners, this is bloodlust. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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lol at the "on war anniversary" in the title. buddy, russia arrests protesters every day there are protesters, and random kids who shared an "objectionable" post on VK on days there aren't
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Did Set post here or in GBS? Because i don't want to miss his work.  (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Just Another Lurker posted:Did Set post here or in GBS? In GBS. This is bullshit. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Just Another Lurker posted:Did Set post here or in GBS? GBS. I also believe he's the user who left done time ago after being harassed and doxxed by CSPAM for being Finnish (sic) , and now is being told to post in there because it's funny.
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steinrokkan posted:GBS. I also believe he's the user who left done time ago after being harassed and doxxed by CSPAM for being Finnish (sic) , and now is being told to post in there because it's funny. That's correct. Sorry for inter forum drama, this is unsettling to me but i'll drop it.
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Just Another Lurker posted:Did Set post here or in GBS? Ditto, his stuff wasn't just shitposting, but actual translated work.
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"poo poo, 50 posts overnight in the Ukraine thread? Bakhmut must have fallen or Russia must have launched an actual new offensive," I was thinking to myself, clicking the thread updates.
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Nobody in GBS ever thought people of my ethnicity should have been sent to the gulag. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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EE goons posting translated articles, war footage and discussing a war that concerns them directly = bloodlust, snuff an actual 'let's make some jokes about holodomor' thread = just fine, even some mods post there uncleTomOfFinland posted:Nobody in GBS ever thought people of my ethnicity should have been sent to the gulag.
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uncleTomOfFinland posted:Nobody in GBS ever thought people of my ethnicity should have been sent to the gulag. But it's not the designated forums funny zone. Btw CSPAM had an active, literal "joke about holodomor" thread. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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uncleTomOfFinland posted:Nobody in GBS ever thought people of my ethnicity should have been sent to the gulag. Hell, same. You can say a lot of things about GBS posters but none of them think the abduction and murder of my family members during the great terror was funny and well deserved. And I respect that in people. It's a strong sign of a non-sociopathic personality. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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