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15 | 3.71% |
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115 | 28.47% |
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12 | 2.97% |
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67 | 16.58% |
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94 | 23.27% |
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14 | 3.47% |
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87 | 21.53% |
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Wasn’t Iraq also under crippling sanctions for a decade prior to invasion?
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Feb 25, 2023 20:41
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also america couldnt manage iraq because arms and ammor was being funneled to the insurgency by iran, syria, various sunni groups, etc. the initial invasion was successful because iraq was already a completely defeated and starved country from their various disasters sanctionsfrom 1985 -2003
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i think it was a few things maybe
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lmao https://twitter.com/ShaheedKM7/status/1629554549378932736
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Feb 25, 2023 20:42
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Sanctions work
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Al-Saqr posted:also america couldnt manage iraq because arms and ammor was being funneled to the insurgency by iran, syria, various sunni groups, etc. the initial invasion was successful because iraq was already a completely defeated and starved country from their various disasters sanctionsfrom 1985 -2003 drat I hope we didn't contribute arms to the insurgents
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kronix posted:Yes, it was the evil west that forced Russia to deindustrialize and not corruption and and institutional rot that set in during communism. Russia hasn't deindustrialized tho? They're still a largely self reliant economy with a big trade surplus.
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Al-Saqr posted:also america couldnt manage iraq because arms and ammor was being funneled to the insurgency by iran, syria, various sunni groups, etc. the initial invasion was successful because iraq was already a completely defeated and starved country from their various disasters sanctionsfrom 1985 -2003 wasn’t a nato Air Force bombing Iraq for like 10 years before 2003
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Horseshoe theory posted:Wasn't the issue that they blackballed all the Ba'athists who, having nothing left, decided to fight a protracted guerilla war? since when were reality ever a requirement for libs to fantasize about the deaths of other peoples
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Feb 25, 2023 20:43
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He's right
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Blitz of 404 Error posted:Sanctions work can you elaborate
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Horseshoe theory posted:Wasn't the issue that they blackballed all the Ba'athists who, having nothing left, decided to fight a protracted guerilla war? the issue was not only the sunni insurgency it was also that iran and syria kept the americans bogged down in iraq so they wouldnt get invaded next. the only reason the occupation wasnt even worse for the americans was that iran wanted to make sure they had firm control of the country through the shiite sectarian parties so they didnt rock the boat too much
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Horseshoe theory posted:Wasn't the issue that they blackballed all the Ba'athists who, having nothing left, decided to fight a protracted guerilla war? de-ba'athification hollowed out the entire iraqi civil apparatus because it purged anyone with a ba'ath party membership (basically everyone who wants to work a government job) and that included every low level civil service workers like clerks and secretaries
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Feb 25, 2023 20:44
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celadon posted:Wasn’t Iraq also under crippling sanctions for a decade prior to invasion? to be fair to the comparison, Ukraine has been under IMF policy for almost a decade
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Blitz of 404 Error posted:Sanctions work Glad to hear you're still alive, Madeleine! quote:Lesley Stahl: We have heard that half a million children have died. I mean, that's more children than died in Hiroshima. And, you know, is the price worth it?
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Feb 25, 2023 20:45
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don’t gently caress with British petroleum
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Cuttlefush posted:can you elaborate
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Horseshoe theory posted:Wasn't the issue that they blackballed all the Ba'athists who, having nothing left, decided to fight a protracted guerilla war? That's fair, but otoh what's going to be left for the azov guys after the war is over? Their manufacturing base is captured or demolished or both. If ukraine doesn't throw in the towel before odessa is taken, what's left except guerilla war? Obviously if they only hold crimea, the republics, and a land bridge, russia doesn't have that much to worry about, but if they set up a DMZ or buffer zone, or they hold odessa to annihilate ukraine's economy, that's not going to be a pleasant place to hang out. I guess at a certain point a high enough percentage of the economy consists of military-age men going overseas to send home remittances and you don't have to worry all that much.
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Blitz of 404 Error posted:He's right
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do you think Iraq happens today ? the USA is so much weaker comparatively.
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Feb 25, 2023 20:46
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500 good dogs posted:I realize you're a lazy troll but do you understand the demographics of the DPR/LPR? Yes I’m aware of the demographics. I’m also aware that the folks from those areas were among the first to get thrown to the wolves and amongst the least equipped. I’m also aware that Russia has been dealing with Government officials getting killed by car bombs in the DNR/LPR.
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Feb 25, 2023 20:46
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lol they also put libertarian interns in charge of whole Iraqi ministries. Truly the biggest brains were in charge
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Feb 25, 2023 20:46
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by the time iraq was invaded by america it had gone through eight years of war with iran a complete and total destruction of its infrastructure and military because of saddams stupid invasion of Kuwait 12 years of complete starvation sanctions the 2003 invasion was basically finishing off a dead country
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Starting to think this iraq comparison might not be so great
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Neurolimal posted:Starting to think this iraq comparison might not be so great bring back the guy who keeps making us civil war comparisons
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Feb 25, 2023 20:47
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wasn’t Kuwait Iraq at one point
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Feb 25, 2023 20:48
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A peaceful protest with real material impact. Awesome.
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speng31b posted:bring back the guy who keeps making us civil war comparisons bring back epic anarchist orc stomper guy
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Feb 25, 2023 20:49
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yellowcar posted:de-ba'athification hollowed out the entire iraqi civil apparatus because it purged anyone with a ba'ath party membership (basically everyone who wants to work a government job) and that included every low level civil service workers like clerks and secretaries You could say this is the exact opposite of what Russia is trying where they keep around any piece of poo poo willing to work with them no matter how much the locals hated them or how useless they were.
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Feb 25, 2023 20:49
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euphronius posted:do you think Iraq happens today ? the USA is so much weaker comparatively. I wouldn't have thought the rhetoric would work again but after seeing everyone go for the ukraine rhetoric I think probably it would. Anyway, iraqis still wouldn't have the necessary weapons to blow up american tanks or or planes consistently so yeah certainly.
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Feb 25, 2023 20:50
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euphronius posted:wasn’t Kuwait Iraq at one point modern kuwait has been around in one form or another since 1899 or so
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Lostconfused posted:You could say this is the exact opposite of what Russia is trying where they keep around any piece of poo poo willing to work with them no matter how much the locals hated them or how useless they were. horseshoe theory
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Frosted Flake posted:lol they also put libertarian interns in charge of whole Iraqi ministries. 20-something year old college republicans at that lmao
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Feb 25, 2023 20:50
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sanctions are ftw because you can kill civilians with just some rows in a spreadsheet
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Feb 25, 2023 20:54
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the us still has juan guaido tucked away somewhere right
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Feb 25, 2023 20:54
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https://twitter.com/BenStiller/status/1629570083830878215?s=20
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Feb 25, 2023 20:55
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Frosted Flake posted:lol they also put libertarian interns in charge of whole Iraqi ministries. that worked incredibly well though. not for iraq, but kellog and root plus all the others made out like loving bandits. war is just the profit motive by other means.
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Feb 25, 2023 20:55
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Al! posted:the us still has juan guaido tucked away somewhere right nah they actually gave up on him
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Feb 25, 2023 20:55
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your typical eastern europe expert https://twitter.com/sumlenny/status/1629522228982185985
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samogonka posted:your typical eastern europe expert huh i didnt know gbs had a twitter account
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