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| 🦋 |
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15 | 3.71% |
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115 | 28.47% |
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12 | 2.97% |
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67 | 16.58% |
| dragonfly |
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94 | 23.27% |
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14 | 3.47% |
| 🐝 |
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87 | 21.53% |
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drat this psycho is giving advice to putin!?!?!?
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Feb 26, 2023 21:50
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poor lil' nato, roused from its deathbed by that mean ol' vlad and his oh so smoochable lips good thing we have real professionals here to set the story straight
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Feb 26, 2023 21:53
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kronix posted:They’re actively bombing civilian infrastructure, lobbing cruise missiles at cities hundreds of miles away from the front so no, it has never occurred to me that Russia is holding back anything. dont you think its odd that russia was doing much worse damage to syria a few years back than they are to ukraine right now like why would they do this unless they had some reason for holding back do you think they did too many war crimes in syria so they didnt have any ordnance left for ukraine
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Feb 26, 2023 21:53
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What is the peace that the US would accept for Ukraine? I remember Russia proposing early on basically Donbas + "no NATO" and even Zelenskyy speaking about peace months ago that Russia could accept, but I can't remember ever reading anything about any sort of peace deal from the US. Has there been any peace deal proposed with US support? If so, what? I know the real answer is the US isn't interested in peace because this war is incredibly profitable for gas exporters, and MIC needs to replace Afghanistan with something. I can't imagine a US backed peace deal that doesn't start Cold War 2 and another Cuban Missile Crisis. Yeowch!!! My Balls!!! posted:I Helped Make Afghanistan Safe For Organized Child-Rape And I'm Here To Tell You About Why Russia Bad, and other lessons i learned from gbs lol
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Feb 26, 2023 21:55
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lol welp I guess ukraine is hosed
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Feb 26, 2023 21:58
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kronix posted:No. The concept of Good Guys is dumb baby bullshit for superhero movies, grow the gently caress up.
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Feb 26, 2023 21:59
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Orange Devil posted:The concept of Good Guys is dumb baby bullshit for superhero movies, grow the gently caress up. Right, there's only Our Guys and Not Our Guys
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Feb 26, 2023 22:00
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R guys
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Feb 26, 2023 22:00
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Chillgamesh posted:Dude what? You've got official Ukrainian government twitter accounts bragging about "collaborators" like schoolteachers getting dragged out into the street and executed, while they make pulp out of Russian-language books en masse. I have no idea how you could possibly think they'd be willing to live and let live, especially when they'd been indiscriminately bombarding them with artillery for like seven years leading up to this war. but that would mean that the average person in the west shouldn't just uncritically cheer for the ukrainian government and come up with cute blue & yellow color schemes for everything, which is an uncomfortable idea and so it can't be true
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Feb 26, 2023 22:00
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Orange Devil posted:The concept of Good Guys is dumb baby bullshit for superhero movies, grow the gently caress up. wrong please see my counterargument from NATO's official twitter account https://twitter.com/NATO/status/1628687961477750790
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Feb 26, 2023 22:01
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Deadly Ham Sandwich posted:What is the peace that the US would accept for Ukraine? I remember Russia proposing early on basically Donbas + "no NATO" and even Zelenskyy speaking about peace months ago that Russia could accept, but I can't remember ever reading anything about any sort of peace deal from the US. Has there been any peace deal proposed with US support? If so, what? I know the real answer is the US isn't interested in peace because this war is incredibly profitable for gas exporters, and MIC needs to replace Afghanistan with something. It's in the US's interest for there to be no peace whatsoever, withouth either side really winning. Keeps Europe in line and allows to make massive profits with MIC and LNG exports. If this war is still going on in 10 years it would be a net US victory.
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Feb 26, 2023 22:01
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Some Guy TT posted:dont you think its odd that russia was doing much worse damage to syria a few years back than they are to ukraine right now important to point out for the hard of brain that this doesn't mean Russia is acting morally or competently, just that there's a clear design in how they've approached this war even if it has ended up not working for them and it wasn't to destroy the whole of Ukraine and kill every Ukrainian
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Feb 26, 2023 22:01
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Some Guy TT posted:dont you think its odd that russia was doing much worse damage to syria a few years back than they are to ukraine right now Well, not that I disagree with your point really but Russian airpower did a lot of the heavy lifting in terms of destruction in Syria. It's much harder to project that kind of on-demand destructive power with normal missiles only, especially in a huge AA rich country like Ukraine.
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Feb 26, 2023 22:02
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we're brighteyes, we're climbing into the giant zardoz head, we just turned 30
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Feb 26, 2023 22:03
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Deadly Ham Sandwich posted:What is the peace that the US would accept for Ukraine? I remember Russia proposing early on basically Donbas + "no NATO" and even Zelenskyy speaking about peace months ago that Russia could accept, but I can't remember ever reading anything about any sort of peace deal from the US. Has there been any peace deal proposed with US support? If so, what? I know the real answer is the US isn't interested in peace because this war is incredibly profitable for gas exporters, and MIC needs to replace Afghanistan with something. right now the moderate position for peace in the West is 'Ukraine is restored to its pre-2014 borders, the DNR and LNR are dissolved, Russia gives up the Crimea, Ukraine joins NATO', with the more common position being 'that and also the dissolution of the current Russian government and its replacement with a more pro-Western one' and the maximalist position being 'and also Russia itself ceases to exist as a state and the land is divvied up by the United States at gunpoint'
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Feb 26, 2023 22:03
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truly some of the most epically brain broken posts from the past year have all been back loaded into this thread in the past few days
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Feb 26, 2023 22:03
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Oh poo poo never mind just got to the part of the thread where we all learn the dude has a personal financial stake in killing babies. I'd like to change my advice of "grow up" into something else.
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Feb 26, 2023 22:05
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kronix posted:They’re actively bombing civilian infrastructure, lobbing cruise missiles at cities hundreds of miles away from the front so no, it has never occurred to me that Russia is holding back anything. I think you're making a pretty common "GBS thread" mistake here in assuming that this thread has an emotional or ideological investment in defending Russia. We don't (at least most of us don't, I can't speak for everyone). We know it's a kleptocratic shithole - the U.S. and its allies helped make it that way - with a military that keeps embarrassing itself in Ukraine.
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Feb 26, 2023 22:05
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kleptocractic is another liberal slur Russia is just a bog standard liberal democracy.
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Feb 26, 2023 22:06
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euphronius posted:kleptocractic is another liberal slur not true if they were a liberal democracy theyd be allowed to elect that guy who loves rick and morty president
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Feb 26, 2023 22:08
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very hard to make fun of putin when his greatest political rivals are the rick and morty guy and the chess grandmaster who thinks the dark ages are fake news well theres always the communists but for some reason no one in english language media likes to talk about them
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Feb 26, 2023 22:10
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euphronius posted:kleptocractic is another liberal slur Nah, it depends on who's using it and in what context. It's like the word "democracy." When neoliberal governments use that word to describe themselves or to claim that they're "spreading democracy," it's a bullshit twisting of the word used as a fig leaf. On the other hand Communists and Marxists throughout the decades have used the word "democracy" because hey, guess what? That's what we're trying to implement: actual democracy. Liberal bourgeois governments are kleptocratic. The U.S. is a kleptocracy. We remade Russia in our image in the 90s, except poorer and weaker. I agree that it's a bog standard liberal "democracy," though - emphasis on the scare quotes.
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Feb 26, 2023 22:11
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Majorian posted:
fair enough
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Feb 26, 2023 22:12
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kronix posted:NATO was on its deathbed before the invasion. Nearly every member was spending next to nothing on defense and you had Donald Trump and the Republican Party openly calling for the US to withdraw. Borrowing this from earlier in the thread  The USA has always made up the lions share of NATO spending so let's not kid anyone that NATO was caught with its pants around its ankles over spending. Their basic problem lately is they can't be bothered going to the total war economy required to refill their stocks like Russia is
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Feb 26, 2023 22:13
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extremely funny how trump accidentally created a detente on ukraine by being a drama queen about how nobody else in nato is paying their fair share
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Feb 26, 2023 22:18
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Hubbert posted:wrong NATO's twitter account is bring your kid to work day only you leave them there and move home without telling them.
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Feb 26, 2023 22:18
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Not So Fast posted:Borrowing this from earlier in the thread Germany looks a lot like a country that got caught with its pants around it’s ankles over military spending.
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Feb 26, 2023 22:20
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Ruthkanda forever - nato
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Feb 26, 2023 22:21
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astonished that people who helped destroy iraq and caused the deaths of hundreds of thousands of men, women and children still think the usa did a single crumb of good there
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Feb 26, 2023 22:21
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Some Guy TT posted:extremely funny how trump accidentally created a detente on ukraine by being a drama queen about how nobody else in nato is paying their fair share Nah, Trump escalated things significantly, both by sending lethal aid to Ukraine (even after the one time he said he might not send it if they didn't investigate Hunter or whatever), and by pulling out of arms control treaties like the INF. He's as responsible as anyone for this mess, with the exception of George W. Bush who is genuinely the most responsible.
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Feb 26, 2023 22:22
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Jel Shaker posted:astonished that people who helped destroy iraq and caused the deaths of hundreds of thousands of men, women and children still think the usa did a single crumb of good there that's a load-bearing delusion
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Feb 26, 2023 22:22
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Majorian posted:Nah, Trump escalated things significantly, both by sending lethal aid to Ukraine (even after the one time he said he might not send it if they didn't investigate Hunter or whatever), and by pulling out of arms control treaties like the INF. He's as responsible as anyone for this mess, with the exception of George W. Bush who is genuinely the most responsible. correct which is why i wrote accidentally
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Feb 26, 2023 22:23
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kronix posted:Germany looks a lot like a country that got caught with its pants around it’s ankles over military spending. Germany's military was intentionally constrained under the Treaty for the Final Settlement with Respect to Germany after the war.
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Feb 26, 2023 22:23
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Some Guy TT posted:correct which is why i wrote accidentally Well but he didn't, is the thing. He didn't do it accidentally, and he didn't do it on purpose. He escalated things.
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Feb 26, 2023 22:24
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Majorian posted:Nah, Trump escalated things significantly, both by sending lethal aid to Ukraine (even after the one time he said he might not send it if they didn't investigate Hunter or whatever), and by pulling out of arms control treaties like the INF. He's as responsible as anyone for this mess, with the exception of George W. Bush who is genuinely the most responsible. Not a comment on anything in particular but it just occurs to me that "lethal aid" is an incredible(y awful) phrase.
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Feb 26, 2023 22:24
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Dreylad posted:Not a comment on anything in particular but it just occurs to me that "lethal aid" is an incredible(y awful) phrase. it's when you do CPR too hard
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Feb 26, 2023 22:26
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 This from the guys who declared victory in Iraq during the first W term. Seriously, how the gently caress are w bunch of American losers gonna pretend they know anything about winning a war.
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Feb 26, 2023 22:26
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Pretty sure it got changed back to lend-lease now to intentionally draw the ww2 parallels.
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Feb 26, 2023 22:26
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The only alternative history where Trump might have helped things, to me, is if Germany had taken seriously his warnings about being dependent on Russian energy.
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Feb 26, 2023 22:26
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https://t.me/ukrinform_news/92781 Zelenskyy has dismissed General Eduard Moskalev as the Commander of the Joint Forces Operation. Who he appointed to the position in March 2022.
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