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I have Whatsapp installed, and about once a month I will get a "wrong number" text through it, always from someone with a profile picture of a beautiful young asian woman, heavily edited. That version of the scam is clearly fishing for horny morons. Then my number will occasionally get added to a group text about some sort of crypto scam.
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A lot of the scams are “hey mom it’s me, lost my phone this is a new number, I can’t speak on the phone right now but please can you send me some cash. Also my bank details have changed”.
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Feb 25, 2023 18:27
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BiggerBoat posted:Have we really needed - what is it - 16 loving Iphones since their inception? People don’t line up for phones anymore. Everyone already has a phone and new phones are just more of a same. There is nothing new or groundbreaking about a new phone. Smartphones are a mature product sector now. And as a mature product, people don’t buy that much new phones anymore. They tend to keep their old ones years longer and buy less new ones. Sales of new phones have been falling for several years. Also, people buy cheaper and cheaper phones. Why buy a flagship phone for a thousand when a few hundred one will fulfill all your needs. Average new phone sale price has been under $200 for a awhile. Phones are boring mature product now.
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Feb 25, 2023 18:57
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the heat goes wrong posted:People don’t line up for phones anymore. Everyone already has a phone and new phones are just more of a same. There is nothing new or groundbreaking about a new phone. Smartphones are a mature product sector now. I did not know that. I always feel like my phone is some ancient Flintstones relic whenever it's 3 or 4 years old.
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Feb 25, 2023 21:31
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His Divine Shadow posted:I don't know much about phones and software design for them but is there something that prevents a flip style phone where the lower half is a physical keyboard from running say whatsapp? No. It's mainly a form factor question; the first (public) Android phone actually had a physical keyboard, for example. At this point, an on screen keyboard is not only less complex and thus cheaper to make, but isn't prone to failure the same way physical components are. The demand (apparently) just isn't there strongly enough to see a modern phone with a physical keyboard. Interestingly, the Samsung foldable phones means that you'll have the concept of a flip phone, but the keyboard will still be an on screen one; the screen will just be positionable in a different way! Oxyclean posted:All the attempts to make "show your government ID to look at porn" laws made me think - political will aside, tech wise, how hard would proof-of-identity be to implement on phone systems and otherwise curb spoofing? As mentioned, SHAKEN/STIR is meant to address exactly this, but it's difficult to build security into a system that was built without it, and has a ton of important edge cases, in a way that makes some things remain economically viable. Here's a not entirely terrible article about it, but the short version is that we still have phone spam for many of the same reasons we still have email spam. E: you asked about SMS spam in particular. SMS doesn't use shaken/stir, so this doesn't apply there. Again, it's pretty difficult to retroactively attach security to the phone networks, especially since SMS is even more primitive than email, so a lot of it is limited to the use of heuristics to try to guess what messages are going to be spam. Volmarias fucked around with this message at 21:53 on Feb 25, 2023 |
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Feb 25, 2023 21:43
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Thanks Ants posted:A lot of the scams are “hey mom it’s me, lost my phone this is a new number, I can’t speak on the phone right now but please can you send me some cash. Also my bank details have changed”. My dad told me he once got a spam call from somebody pretending to be a little Mexican grandson, obviously it didn't work since all his grandchildren are grown (and not Mexican) but he had a good laugh about it. Scammers will try any angle to get your money, including fishing for relatives that may or may not exist.
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Feb 26, 2023 01:08
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Kwyndig posted:My dad told me he once got a spam call from somebody pretending to be a little Mexican grandson, obviously it didn't work since all his grandchildren are grown (and not Mexican) but he had a good laugh about it. Scammers will try any angle to get your money, including fishing for relatives that may or may not exist. This reminds me of an in-person scam I faced about ten years ago: a guy came up to me and said "Oh my god, My Real Name, it's been so long! How's it going?" I didn't recognise him but didn't want to be rude, so talked to him for a little bit. He started asking me about my finances & if I wanted to make a lot of money, felt sketchy so I excused myself & left. Was unsettled for a while afterwards, wondering "but how did he know my name?", until I realised: my name's fairly common. He probably just said my name to every potential sucker, and in most cases it was wrong & didn't work. But when it was right, it added that level of familiarity that drew me in. Bastards!
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Feb 26, 2023 04:34
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ponzicar posted:I have Whatsapp installed, and about once a month I will get a "wrong number" text through it, always from someone with a profile picture of a beautiful young asian woman, heavily edited. That version of the scam is clearly fishing for horny morons. Then my number will occasionally get added to a group text about some sort of crypto scam. What the gently caress I got one of these within five minutes of reading this post
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Feb 26, 2023 15:29
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ANIME AKBAR posted:What the gently caress I got one of these within five minutes of reading this post The tech nightmares are coming from inside the thread!
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ANIME AKBAR posted:What the gently caress I got one of these within five minutes of reading this post Well, how has it been going?!
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Feb 26, 2023 15:42
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ANIME AKBAR posted:What the gently caress I got one of these within five minutes of reading this post
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Feb 26, 2023 18:10
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I dont know how spammers exactly work, but they should have fun when calling a number with itself and try to do a time travel or alt-universe themed scam.
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Feb 26, 2023 19:04
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I got one of those, also with the picture of a young asian woman. After the initial picture, I got a few increasingly angry messages after I didn't reply, until I blocked the number.
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Feb 26, 2023 19:11
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Volmarias posted:No. It's mainly a form factor question; the first (public) Android phone actually had a physical keyboard, for example.
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Feb 26, 2023 19:12
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ponzicar posted:I have Whatsapp installed... My job MADE me install WhatsApp and also UKG and they both piss me off for various reasons. The WhatsApp one is just nothing but white noise. Ostensibly, it's designed for all the employees to communicate work related stuff but EVERY DAY, when I check it, there are 50 messages or so. 35 or 40 of which are people saying "running late, stuck in traffic, at the doctor's office, not coming in today I am sick." The rest are FB style shitposts with "funny" Star Wars memes and other worthless poo poo that has no bearing on my role as an employee. The UKG monstrosity is so I can see my schedule, access my tax forms and whatever the gently caress else but it sucks too. Thankfully, I can use my laptop for the poo poo I need it for. Trouble is, I have a cheap/older phone and all this crap uses up my storage. Storage that I personally pay for. And also, my WhatsApp work notifications make noise no matter how I set it so my phone never shits the gently caress up. gently caress that. I get paid by the hour and i'm not trying to monitor if Seth is gonna be late on my day off, Christine called out sick or if Alex is stuck in traffic on I-95. If you want me on call or staying on top of this poo poo 24/7, then give me a company phone instead of clogging up my personal one with stupid bullshit. I don't even check it. If they want me to come on my day off or something, they can contact me directly but gently caress using up all my personal storage and memory with YOUR employee mandated apps.
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Feb 26, 2023 20:39
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ANIME AKBAR posted:What the gently caress I got one of these within five minutes of reading this post Hey she’s cute, you should respond Please respond
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Feb 26, 2023 20:48
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BiggerBoat posted:My job MADE me install WhatsApp and also UKG and they both piss me off for various reasons. Buy a lovely used secondhand phone for nothing, install it on there, ignore it.
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Feb 26, 2023 20:49
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The problem with that is you need a second line and that's another expense they're not paying for. I agree it's bullshit.
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Feb 27, 2023 01:41
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Kwyndig posted:The problem with that is you need a second line and that's another expense they're not paying for. I agree it's bullshit. What do you need the second line for? Just have it use wifi at home. Treat it as a old school landline.
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Feb 27, 2023 01:51
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Alternatively refuse to do work related stuff on your personal phone. E: actually you should always do that regardless of if you get a second phone. I would never install an app for work on my phone. I don’t even do work email on my phone.
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Feb 27, 2023 01:52
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Boris Galerkin posted:Alternatively refuse to do work related stuff on your personal phone.
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Feb 27, 2023 01:57
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Boris Galerkin posted:Alternatively refuse to do work related stuff on your personal phone. Repeat after me: "I don't have a cell phone, sorry. What's another way to do X?"
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Feb 27, 2023 05:29
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I get not doing much work on your phone, I got a work issued phone and still have all notifications for work applications turned off (email, whatsapp, teams, etc). But it is a weird hill to die on. The only software my company had expats install on their personal phone was a travel security software ap. You are in trouble, you hit panic and a team sitting in an office in London would react and coordinate a response. You sent your travel ahead of time and it would pop up a notification if your went off route for them to follow up as another feature. Most expats were pretty lackadaisical about the whole thing but one guy in particular made a big song and dance and was going to take the company to EU court over it etc. Absolute Pikachu face when he got managed out.
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Feb 27, 2023 08:37
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BiggerBoat posted:I did not know that. I kept an iPhone 4s for almost 6 years. By the time it had its fateful encounter with a glass of water at 2am it was getting a little slow on most modern web pages, but I really miss the Leica-inspired form factor. I miss having the eyesight to use a phone that small even more.
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Feb 27, 2023 08:48
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BiggerBoat posted:My job MADE me install WhatsApp and also UKG and they both piss me off for various reasons. Faintly related: my company recently rolled out Okta, and what a ballache. Like, I understand 2FA and it's benefits. But in practice it means needing to log in with my phone to every official work site, whether they natively require 2FA or not. I can handle it OK via the Okta app, but for anyone older it's meant daily cries for help because they can't log in before big client meetings 😑
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Feb 27, 2023 09:28
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Boris Galerkin posted:Alternatively refuse to do work related stuff on your personal phone. My work forces an Intune installation on any phone accessing work stuff. That allows them to do a remote wipe of the phone. No way was I using my personal phone for that, which is why everyone at my work has 2 phones (work phone supplied by the company, so can't grumble about that)
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Feb 27, 2023 10:13
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Electric Wrigglies posted:I get not doing much work on your phone, I got a work issued phone and still have all notifications for work applications turned off (email, whatsapp, teams, etc). But it is a weird hill to die on. Not wanting your work to have a GPS tracker on your personal phone seems pretty drat reasonable.
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Feb 27, 2023 10:56
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Electric Wrigglies posted:I get not doing much work on your phone, I got a work issued phone and still have all notifications for work applications turned off (email, whatsapp, teams, etc). But it is a weird hill to die on. It's probably the least weird hill to die on. If work thinks having a phone with their applications installed is important enough they can buy you a phone and a plan for it.
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Feb 27, 2023 11:11
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I think most workplaces have this poo poo because they think they have to have it, not because they actually have any idea how to use it or what it can do. Like those electronic whiteboards you never see anyone use.
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Feb 27, 2023 11:15
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Senor Tron posted:Not wanting your work to have a GPS tracker on your personal phone seems pretty drat reasonable. He was travelling through the Sahel and Ouagadougou, kidnap for ransom being a local pastime, expecting to be safe and refusing tools to be kept safe is just someone to get out of the organisation. There are plenty of organisations to work for that don't have such a high personal safety requirement so it's just easier for everyone he go and avail himself of them. withoutclass posted:It's probably the least weird hill to die on. If work thinks having a phone with their applications installed is important enough they can buy you a phone and a plan for it. Getting your salary hosed up, your health coverage stuffed around, your rostered time with family stuffed up, not having every effort to get you home for a bereavement, not having a safe place of work, allowing you to be stuck with some dickhead that wants to rant and rave about covid mandates and personal safety requirements and how we all should make our jobs absolutely poo poo and unsafe so he don't have to "give in to the man" are hills worth more dying for. e) Corrected poor choice of words. Electric Wrigglies fucked around with this message at 15:31 on Feb 27, 2023 |
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Feb 27, 2023 11:23
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Yeah I obviously meant “i would never install work poo poo on my personal phone” and not phone in general. If an app is mandatory then they can buy you a work phone for said app. In my field this is the norm though, they don’t want work poo poo on personal phones for security purposes. Also no it’s definitely not a weird hill to die on??? My employer doesn’t need to gps track me and remotely access my personal phone and my massive trove of dick pics.
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Feb 27, 2023 11:24
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Hundreds more layoffs at Twitter over the weekend. Including, hilariously, that woman who was posting photos of herself sleeping at the office to show how we're all meant to work harder:quote:Among those hit were Esther Crawford, Twitter’s director of product management, who had been one of the few women at the top of the company under Musk, leading its new moneymaking initiatives, such as the Twitter Blue subscription service. https://www.ft.com/content/07fb3d47-92cf-482c-a82f-00edec9c19f5#comments-anchor
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Electric Wrigglies posted:
Yes well I'd also rather not get eaten by bears but I'm not sure that's particularly relevant here unless 100% of your examples are things your work would do if you didn't install their software on your phone.
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Feb 27, 2023 12:30
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I'm generally surprised there are enough people left to still have "hundreds of layoffs"
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Feb 27, 2023 12:55
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Mega Comrade posted:I'm generally surprised there are enough people left to still have "hundreds of layoffs" The opening campaign did whittle it down to 1300 FTEs. https://www.cnbc.com/2023/01/20/twitter-is-down-to-fewer-than-550-full-time-engineers.html I did the math on that article some time ago, and it basically looks like he fired 5k (2/3) of people, and then half of the remaining 2.5k just said no and left when he asked people to “pledge” that they're “hardcore”.
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Feb 27, 2023 13:56
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I have to admit I've got work apps on my android phone. Previous workplace issued me a work phone and I prefer having it on my personal. Android segregates work apps and let's me turn them off so (supposedly) work doesn't have access to any of my personal stuff and I can set the apps to not run at all when I'm not working. This means not getting to have an extra phone with a UI I'm not so comfortable with that was also slow as poo poo with a bit very good fingerprint scanner (it was an old budget Samsung). Admittedly that's not the same as work demanding that you install a load of personal apps that they have access and control over. Current place is Google based so it's pretty well managed in terms of distinguishing personal and work apps.
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Feb 27, 2023 14:09
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I have a single app that generates a 2 factor code. Having a second work phone just for that would be more of a pain than just sticking it on mine.
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Feb 27, 2023 14:11
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Electric Wrigglies posted:He was travelling through the Sahel and Ouagadougou, kidnap for ransom being a local pastime, expecting to be safe and refusing tools to be kept safe is just someone to get out of the organisation. There are plenty of organisations to work for that don't have such a high personal safety requirement so it's just easier for everyone he go and avail himself of them. Not super relevant, but please consign “gypped” to the same shitpile of words as “jewed” because it’s essentially the same thing, offensive connotations and all.
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Feb 27, 2023 14:48
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cinci zoo sniper posted:The opening campaign did whittle it down to 1300 FTEs. https://www.cnbc.com/2023/01/20/twitter-is-down-to-fewer-than-550-full-time-engineers.html And this weekend just gone has seen another "more than 200" people cut according to the FT. Plus any normal churn over the last few months. They might even be under 1000 FTEs at this stage.
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Mega Comrade posted:I'm generally surprised there are enough people left to still have "hundreds of layoffs"
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