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Kenny Barron just released his first solo album in many years a few weeks back. Absolutely worth checking out: https://youtu.be/0p4z_ihfjTI
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zenguitarman posted:Really want to know how Dave King bad plus drummer chris speed plays tenor sax and Julian Lage got together. Their personalities seem nothing alike, but their playing is so on point. lol i didn't even realize what i did, yes
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# ? Feb 21, 2023 17:09 |
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Recently found the first jazz artist that made sense to me: Ornette Coleman. Any obvious places to go from there?
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# ? Feb 23, 2023 03:33 |
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Sun Ra is a good starting point as are the later albums of John coltrane (especially ascension and afterwards) What draws you to Coleman?
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# ? Feb 23, 2023 04:41 |
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KICK BAMA KICK posted:Recently found the first jazz artist that made sense to me: Ornette Coleman. Any obvious places to go from there? Did you listen to The Shape of Jazz to Come? Charlie Haden and Don Cherry both had prolific careers in free jazz. Personally I like Haden but don’t care for Cherry. Keith Jarrett if you wind up liking Charlie Haden.
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KICK BAMA KICK posted:Recently found the first jazz artist that made sense to me: Ornette Coleman. Any obvious places to go from there? I recommend Eric Dolphy, specifically “Out to Lunch”.
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# ? Feb 23, 2023 05:36 |
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if you wanna go more far out into the free jazz stuff id reccomend Albert Ayler
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# ? Feb 23, 2023 05:45 |
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KICK BAMA KICK posted:Recently found the first jazz artist that made sense to me: Ornette Coleman. Any obvious places to go from there? folks have said the obvious choices, but I have to mention Pharoah Sanders as well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZW0xvo_DB0
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Thanks everyone for the suggestions!Smoking Crow posted:What draws you to Coleman?
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# ? Feb 23, 2023 19:27 |
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drat Jimmy really pulled out all the stops with the "Entertainment" for the Shahmawarannahr posted:lol check this poo poo out I'm not big on the Grammys, but I was happy to see Samara Joy get well-deserved recognition this year. (Best New Artist) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X03lvK7qoco
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Smoking Crow posted:I have no help for you other than check out Manfredo Fest Thanks this kicks rear end
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# ? Feb 25, 2023 04:14 |
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Wayne Shorter died. Dude had a hell of a career. https://www.npr.org/2023/03/02/768874324/wayne-shorter-sage-of-the-saxophone-dies-at-89
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drat. RIP. Shorter's Wikipedia page is wild. He did so much. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XvJFW0DHbU
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# ? Mar 2, 2023 23:05 |
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The big beat is prob my fave jazz messengers album and he's great on it. Love a bit of weather report as well. RIP to an all-time guy
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the sex ghost posted:RIP to an all-time guy
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# ? Mar 2, 2023 23:38 |
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Dude was making new poo poo right up to his final days. One of the last OGs.
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# ? Mar 3, 2023 03:01 |
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I am learning to like jazz, and I'm not sure how to describe what kind I'm looking for. I like the really intense chaotic sounding type, is that hard jazz or something else? Any recommendations for finding more?
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KonMari DeathMetal posted:I am learning to like jazz, and I'm not sure how to describe what kind I'm looking for. I like the really intense chaotic sounding type, is that hard jazz or something else? Any recommendations for finding more? Do you mean something like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPDzlSda8P8 Or this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M283JFxesic
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# ? Mar 6, 2023 15:34 |
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Intense and chaotic as descriptors makes me think of "free jazz" or "avant garde jazz". A lot of musicians fit into these categories, including Ornette Coleman, Pharoah Sanders, Alice Coltrane, Sun Ra, among others. I don't think "hard jazz" is a recognized subgenre. There's "hard bop", but that isn't very chaotic in comparison. Clifford Brown was active at the beginning of hard bop (died in a car accident at 25). Many popular jazz musicians were associated with hard bop from the mid 50s through the mid 60s.
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KonMari DeathMetal posted:I am learning to like jazz, and I'm not sure how to describe what kind I'm looking for. I like the really intense chaotic sounding type, is that hard jazz or something else? Any recommendations for finding more? OP, do these tickle your fancy? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAK7BkVWgyc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0FcKOfRgvE Mingus had a wide compositional range (all good), but maybe you would like his uptempo stuff?
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KonMari DeathMetal posted:I am learning to like jazz, and I'm not sure how to describe what kind I'm looking for. I like the really intense chaotic sounding type, is that hard jazz or something else? Any recommendations for finding more? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHTDPx8LpuQ
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Digging into some of the stuff I got recommended and enjoying all the music but even aside from that Sun Ra is obviously fascinating, is the 1998 biography of him any good?
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KonMari DeathMetal posted:I am learning to like jazz, and I'm not sure how to describe what kind I'm looking for. I like the really intense chaotic sounding type, is that hard jazz or something else? Any recommendations for finding more? i think Monk sounds chaotic and intense, but YMMV: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLopWusx-ZU
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# ? Mar 6, 2023 22:08 |
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Doesnt get more chaotic and intense than Ayler https://youtu.be/m_5UQCb5vlA
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In NYC this weekend, who should I see? Ravi Coltrane with Robin Eubanks at Blue Note, or.. Ben Wendel with Julian Lage and Larry Goldings at the Village Vanguard
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Thanks for the recommendations! Ive liked most of them so far. It seems what I was originally looking for is the free-form improv. Which kind of now has me wondering if there are any bands that play jazz style but with heavy distortions and effects? Unless that goes against the jazz sound entirely. I'm new and dumb at jazz.
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KonMari DeathMetal posted:Thanks for the recommendations! Ive liked most of them so far. You might like The Comet is Coming if youre not already aware of them, was the first thing I thought of. Summon The Fire is a banger
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KonMari DeathMetal posted:It seems what I was originally looking for is the free-form improv. Which kind of now has me wondering if there are any bands that play jazz style but with heavy distortions and effects? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7yB4wcOoy4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OepwSnRrtpY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LT91GO5BsM caligulamprey fucked around with this message at 17:35 on Mar 7, 2023 |
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KonMari DeathMetal posted:Thanks for the recommendations! Ive liked most of them so far. maybe miles' Pangaea/Agharta/Dark Magus live trilogy coltrane's last live recording might be up your alley too, recorded in a gym and sounds like poo poo (but imo in a good way, tho i think some hate it), the 2 times throughout these 35 minutes the favorite things melody is played in full are 2 of my favorite moments music, especially the first one pharaoh does and john comes in like a banshee https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjDrkTmqxQk&t=603s also zorn, comet is coming, and neptunian maximalism per prior posters
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KonMari DeathMetal posted:Thanks for the recommendations! Ive liked most of them so far. it might be the case that you're not actually looking for jazz as such. there is jazz with effects and distortion especially more recent artists but if you want that to be the focus you are likely to be getting into jazz adjacent stuff that is not strictly speaking jazz, for example free improv proper is really its own beast from jazz at least in the european tradition, even though there are musicians who have worked in both. there's an entire genre called EAI which is electronic free improv but this tends to sound more like recordings of fridges than anything really loud or harsh so you might not like it so much. you could try early AMM maybe since they were pretty loud and abrasive, they were an important group in early free improv. you might try listening to masayuki takayanagi, who was a guitarist in the japanese free jazz scene and did some legendarily noisy and abrasive records. the noisest ones are the ones he did with his group new direction unit as well as the collab stuff with similarly abrasive saxophonist kaoru abe. i think you would probably like the band last exit, which was made up of sonny sharrock, peter brotzmann, bill laswell and ronald shannon jackson. these guys were all veteran jazz musicians although the music is basically a kind of freeform jazz rock, but it's very good regardless of what you call it. another group you might check out is borbetomagus who have been making extremely harsh free improv since the 80s and they are cool, they were an important influence in the later japanese noise scene(which has little to do with jazz but it's something you might want to investigate if you just want music that is all about distortion and effects).
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Jazz is great because I’ll be listening to Dark Magus, and Tatu will come on, and it’s the coolest, funkiest thing I’ve heard. Jazz is awful because I’ll look up the album and the track, and click through to the guitarist, and find out he did three things and died at 30.
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Jazz is great/awful: Emily Remler is a jazz guitarist I just recently discovered. Died at 32. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjjkywlSMXU
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Listening to this today and just having a lovely old time https://youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_koK01penlGOTg3yUCoTPaLiUM6t2Xq4uk
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the sex ghost posted:Listening to this today and just having a lovely old time Whoa this is great.
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# ? Mar 18, 2023 14:31 |
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I’ve been listening to Jazz for three months, and I finally found an album I just don’t like. For Alto by Braxton. For people who like it, what are you hearing that I’m missing?
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# ? Mar 29, 2023 14:48 |
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Another absolute legend gone. RIP Ahmad Jamal. One of my favorite hip hop samples by J Dilla too. Crazy that it comes like, 8 minutes into Swahililand. https://youtu.be/BhJCMKXzGv8
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drat. I was just starting to get into him and was amazed that he was still around. Bought At the Pershing a while back but didn't get around to it right away. I'm also digging Chamber Music of the New Jazz. We're gonna run out of these guys sooner rather than later
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# ? Apr 17, 2023 15:54 |
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I really like With The Assai Quartet for that proper "Chamber Music" 3rd Stream I guess, vibe. Poinciana is amazing too. He has such an amazing touch.
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# ? Apr 17, 2023 16:51 |
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RIP Ahmad Jamal. Effortlessly cool music. I got to see him live as a kid at Yoshi's. I've been listening to more John Handy. Unfortunately a lot of his catalog is not on Apple Music. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XC8qPmuxKk And I heard this Sonny Rollins recording on the radio the other day. He's got such a great sense of humor https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XD_NNnEkUq8
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Following up on the stuff people recommended to me a while ago I went from Dolphy to Mingus and this poo poo rules.
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