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15 | 3.71% |
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115 | 28.47% |
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12 | 2.97% |
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67 | 16.58% |
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94 | 23.27% |
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14 | 3.47% |
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87 | 21.53% |
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Top tankie films: The Beast (1988) aka The Beast of War (English) Tank: T55 (played by a Ti-67) In classic "Dedicated to the brave Mujahideen fighters" style propaganda piece of the occupation of Afghanistan (1981 version) - our T55 crew (including a young Stephen Baldwin) make a wrong turn, much hot tank action ensues. Will our brave hero succumb to the ever present dangers of poison, warcrimes and, battlefield executions that are daily facts of life in the Red army in the mind of hollywood, or will the tank fall apart first so he can join the freedom loving Taliban. I would love to see this film remade, shot for shot, scene for scene, but set with the US military in the last invasion. Rating : 4 canteens of brake fluid Lebanon (2009) (Hebrew) Tank : Sho't (Centurion derivative) Trapped in a metal womb, our brave boys must witness the horrors of combat and everyday warcrimes around them while peering through the narrow viewports and periscopes of our increasingly sweaty, oily and filth encrusted tank. Isn't it terrible how our poor lads must endure seeing such horrors, alas someone must defend the borders of greater Israel and have the back of the Phalange, even if they must witness some oopsies along the way. Hot sticky tank action will have you spilling your rations everywhere with delight/disgust. Rating : 3 viewing the world entirely through crosshairs White Tiger (2012) (Russian) Tank : T34/85 Only a resurrected Red Army tanker angel has the power to defeat Satan himself in the form of a Tiger (P) (played by an IS-2 ) - Truly a story that resonates with the here and now. Finally a film that teaches you to listen to your tank, listen to what it wants, then uses that tank whisperer ability to kill nazis. Learn the secrets of the one true religion of The Tank God. Required viewing for all tankies and treadheads alike. A true meditation on the what is the soul of a tank. Rating : 5 war is hell metaphors Honorable mentions : Kelly's Hero's : (1970)(English) Tank : Custom upgraded M4 Sherman Not enough true tank action, but a great movie none the less, plus does feature one of the finest armor commanders in all of fiction. Rating : 4 beautiful paint shells Fury (2014) (English) M4A2E8 Sherman Look it isn't a rape scene if the heavily armed men speak English and are coded as 'nice', right? Furthermore let me tell you all about Deathtraps... Rating: 2 lit Ronsons T-34 (2019 )(Russian) Tank : Take a guess What if tanks but bullet time, the movie. If that sounds kicking rad, this is all you want. A film with modern sensibilities, undoubtedly informing young men on both sides of the war in Ukraine exactly what they think armored combat will look like. Rating : 3 nazis taking a 85 mm to the face
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speng31b posted:sure, if you can find something funny point it out Danann posted:https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1499807262084325379
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Mar 6, 2023 21:32
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dk2m posted:we’re really back to ww1 era where the British-American system of quasi-private central banks competed with the state owned central banking system of Germany. once germany decided to use the gold standard to back their currency, and started long-term financial planning, the sterling system suddenly had a rival that sent it on a collision course. little did the British know that the demise of their empire would come at the hands of the Americans though oh word, for sure, I was just laughing about the phrase "china oriented" Not a big deal probably something only I noticed or thought was funny
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Mar 6, 2023 21:33
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Fury in general was just weird and slightly psychotic for even a war film.
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Mar 6, 2023 21:34
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Son of Thunderbeast posted:oh word, for sure, I was just laughing about the phrase "china oriented" I just loving got it lmfao
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Mar 6, 2023 21:36
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Ardennes posted:Fury in general was just a weird and slightly psychotic for even a war film. I watched this poo poo in the plane, 0/10 gently caress this movie for that one scene alone
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Mar 6, 2023 21:37
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Ardennes posted:Fury in general was just a weird and slightly psychotic for even a war film. one of the actual soldiers it was based on said he just didn’t recognise the movie at all, because all the actors were middle aged men and he and his crew were basically 19 year olds
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Mar 6, 2023 21:39
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lol at gbs posting an execution video, but doing it behind a single level of obfuscation. normal. 
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Mar 6, 2023 21:47
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ive come around, this war is good actually. itll put hair on your chest, make a man out of you, etc etc edit: except for the teenagers getting shelled, ofc
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Mar 6, 2023 21:49
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Desiderata posted:Top tankie films: Tank you.
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Mar 6, 2023 21:49
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Homeless Friend posted:lol at gbs posting an execution video, but doing it behind a single level of obfuscation. normal. let's not complain about specific gbs stuff like that in here, use SAD, reports, admin email, etc.
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Mar 6, 2023 21:50
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a few of you will be forced through a fine mesh screen for your president zelenksyy and his foreign masters they will be the luckiest of all
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Mar 6, 2023 21:53
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zelenskyy appearing in the clouds like mufasa
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Mar 6, 2023 21:55
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thats what i love about these high school recruits, man. i get older, they stay the same age
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Mar 6, 2023 21:55
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lindsey graham can't get off unless he watches videos of grenades being dropped on hapless troops he doesn't care which side
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Mar 6, 2023 21:57
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I hate GBS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Mar 6, 2023 22:12
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Delta-Wye posted:trencher goes brrrrrr Haha this is awesome; some twisted metal poo poo even the name The Trencher fits. Run that baby in reverse to clear the trench
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Mar 6, 2023 22:13
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Jel Shaker posted:one of the actual soldiers it was based on said he just didn’t recognise the movie at all, because all the actors were middle aged men and he and his crew were basically 19 year olds That I don’t mind as there were plenty of older career soldiers, volunteers and draftees. It’s hard to pick an “ideal” crew without falling into the 50’s movie trap of Tough Jew From the Bronx, Wisecracking Italian From Brooklyn, Naive Hayseed From Oklahoma, Bookish New Englander, Adventurous Texas Cowboy etc One benefit (of many @ Tankbuster) from the Regimental System is that soldiers are recruited from the same geographic area (and tankers from the same class cough cough). Unfortunately, one bad day in the line severely effects whole communities, but the same was true of your National Guard divisions as well. Frosted Flake has issued a correction as of 22:18 on Mar 6, 2023 |
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Mar 6, 2023 22:16
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Shia Labeouf did a pretty good turn as the unhinged bible thumper imo
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Mar 6, 2023 22:30
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Fury is absolutely loving rancid, a really horrible You Must Do Warcrimes To Be A True Soldier film that pretends to be realistic and yet is entirely not, at every stage. and the cheery presentation of rape is really disgusting the ending where an entire SS battalion charges at the immobilised Sherman to be mown down without once thinking to use the panzerfausts they're all carrying is pretty special though
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Mar 6, 2023 22:37
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Danann posted:https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1499807262084325379 But there's another Russian collapse coming soon, right? Before Friday?
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Mar 6, 2023 22:40
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Egg Moron posted:But there's another Russian collapse coming soon, right? Before Friday? the nice part about having such a massive amount of media outlets is that they can all report all kinds of crazy poo poo and eventually one will be right. The incredible output also helps overwhelm people into forgetting about all the stuff that was wrong before.
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Mar 6, 2023 22:43
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Egg Moron posted:But there's another Russian collapse coming soon, right? Before Friday? russia is constantly collapsing, its very cringe. all cope, no hope - professional knower, probably
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Mar 6, 2023 22:44
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John Charity Spring posted:the ending where an entire SS battalion charges at the immobilised Sherman to be mown down without once thinking to use the panzerfausts they're all carrying is pretty special though Also not far off what the SS was like in the last months of the war. Something something Fascist death drive.
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Mar 6, 2023 22:44
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Fury is what you get when a profoundly alienated culture tries to make a movie about WWII. Because the mentality of the people who actually fought WWII is foreign to modern audiences, the movie instead takes cues from the USA's modern wars, and a bit of Vietnam. The combat in fury is deliberately portrayed as aimless, and the characters are preoccupied with the idea of dying before the war will end. The same idea is present in a lot of older WWII media, notably in Soviet cinema where the monstrous toll of WWII is presented as a multitude of richly-lived lives, and connections extinguished in tragedy. But Fury is not at all concerned with the idea of peace. Death is undesireable simply because it is gross and demeaning. The characters, though embracing of a sort of mental death, just don't want to die writhing in a fire, or standing around stupidly with a missing head. Soldiers in Fury do not serve some collective purpose or even socialize themselves as comrades, they are individuals that seem frustrated because they're shoved into the confines of the same space. This literally a tank for the main characters, but the more encompassing space is the warzone itself. It would make sense for a random modern American to react this way if they were dragged into an industrial war, but it does make the movie very unrepresentative of WWII. There's also a great bit at the end of the movie. After the tankers fight the SS guys into the morning, the final shot of the movie is an overhead view of the Sherman at the crossroads, it's turret slightly askew, that zooms out further and further to reveal more of the + shaped intersection. I don't know who decided to do a crucifixion shot for a tank but it was hilarious. Slim Jim Pickens has issued a correction as of 23:18 on Mar 6, 2023 |
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Mar 6, 2023 23:14
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the funniest scene in fury is where all the nazis get set on fire and the young guy shoots them with the machinegun and the other guy tells him to save the ammo
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Mar 6, 2023 23:18
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my favorite part of Fury is when the navy gives bad conduct discharges to all the black ppl who didn't want to get blown up while loading ammunition and asked for less-racist officers And you thought the US Navy just hated the Japanese!
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Mar 6, 2023 23:22
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Frosted Flake posted:Also not far off what the SS was like in the last months of the war. Something something Fascist death drive. the big difference is the SS are portrayed as fit and strong aryan ubermensch still while it's the Americans who are down to the dregs and all exhausted and falling apart. because as the film says, the invasion of Germany was the hardest part of the war!
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Mar 6, 2023 23:23
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The Tiger tank they used for the film was real. it never turns in the movie because they were afraid if they tried to have the tank turn it might break.
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Mar 6, 2023 23:25
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favorite part of Fury is when a sneering, Asiatic commissar massacres a bunch of surrendered SS soldiers while an american soldier watches and sobs over the injustice and cruelty of the allies forced upon the west by circumstances
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Mar 6, 2023 23:26
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John Charity Spring posted:Fury is absolutely loving rancid, a really horrible You Must Do Warcrimes To Be A True Soldier film that pretends to be realistic and yet is entirely not, at every stage. and the cheery presentation of rape is really disgusting Something like that did actually happen during the Battle of the Bulge, but it was a newly raised and barely trained Fallschirmjager regiment marching down the road in parade fashion, singing songs and completely baffling the American troops holding the crossroads they were marching towards. Then the Americans mowed them down with machine guns.
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Mar 6, 2023 23:27
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In Fury there's a part where they have a World of Tanks battle with a Tiger even though 76mm HVAP would cut through its front armor like a brick through a window at every range depicted
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Mar 6, 2023 23:33
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Oh man the Battle of the Bulge is great. The Germans cobbled together a last ditch offensive with new recruits, some fancy-ish new equipment, and a whole lot of wishful thinking and threw them at US lines to try and break through to the coast. Against like 4 US infantry divisions at the start, the offensive fell apart really quickly and they couldn't keep to their schedule. 2 Panzerarmees managed to capture 2 regiments of the greenest of green US divisions and accomplish little else. Maybe they should have tried issuing a bunch of press releases about how bad they want to capture Slim Jim Pickens has issued a correction as of 23:35 on Mar 6, 2023 |
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Mar 6, 2023 23:33
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Chillgamesh posted:In Fury there's a part where they have a World of Tanks battle with a Tiger even though 76mm HVAP would cut through its front armor like a brick through a window at every range depicted There is a weird alignment of history and reality there where I think they wanted the tank to be a Tiger II in the script (historical and real, the US forces only encountered like 2 Tiger Is total), but the only running German tank in 2014 was a Tiger I so they just said gently caress it, put it in the movie
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Mar 6, 2023 23:35
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The best part of fury is when the tiger, renowned for it's long range firepower and frontal armour, charges forward and engages in a MechWarrior (google keyboard auto capitalises this btw) style turning battle at point blank range; the m4 has superior torso twist characteristics and comes out victorious The entire battalion of dudes running in circles trying to rifle butt their way into a stationary tank is a close second
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Mar 6, 2023 23:35
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Yeah the Bulge is a great example of how even if you can get through your enemy's lines and into their rear, if you have no capacity to exploit that breakthrough, it's meaningless and just wastes a catastrophic amount of men and equipment.
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Mar 6, 2023 23:36
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Slavvy posted:The best part of fury is when the tiger, renowned for it's long range firepower and frontal armour, charges forward and engages in a MechWarrior (google keyboard auto capitalises this btw) style turning battle at point blank range; the m4 has superior torso twist characteristics and comes out victorious It is a film with pure, undiluted Battlefield 1942 energy
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Mar 6, 2023 23:37
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I’m a fan of the Indian film border which features the allies (India) defeating the 4th reich (Pakistan).
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Mar 6, 2023 23:43
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It’s too bad too because there is some good scholarship on what GIs actually thought about the war, their social interactions, political outlooks - because the Greatest Generation, while still alive, is no longer heading the academy - but you’re right that it’s happening at the same time as everyone else becoming alienated. So we pass from one mythologized view of the war directly into another, with no real reflection or examination. One of the most interesting things that was pointed out to me (in a book on war movies that escapes me atm), I think this was in the context of 60’s TV, where both Combat! and The Twilight Zone were watched by soldiers who went to Vietnam, (which had all sorts of interesting effects) - both the writers and audience were expected to have some familiarity with military life, and probably combat too. I think Time For My Stories mentioned this about Gunsmoke. Now that obviously meant all sorts of things both big and small in the actual writing of shows and depiction of military life and combat, but I think the most interesting is that the social relationships were more true to life. Iirc one explanation might be there was more “bandwidth” available for it because the audience did not have to have the rough outlines explicitly made clear to them. I would speculate this is one possible reason imo Generation Kill gets so much right - it’s long, and so the audience can slowly see what the people are like because the war, life in a Marine Recce unit, that can all sort of go on in the background. Only in the 60’s you didn’t need X hours to do it, in a 44 minute show you could skip establishing what everyday life was like, people already knew. I’d guess that’s because when most adult men had some idea of why basic training and garrison were like, they weren’t distant, cliche things. The stock characters were cliche, but not how they got along or what their jobs were like. So, older movies about Boot Camp imo are about it being challenging and people getting along and forming relationships, rather than extremely demanding of individuals per se. I don’t know how to explain that better, but in Gomer Pyle, USMC, it’s not depicted as particularly arduous, abusive, or some crucible through which only the best survive. Even old movies that cover specialized units and training, like The Devil’s Brigade, mostly it’s about people getting along rather than HSLD individuals making the grade. I am not a movie guy but I would say Stripes and Private Benjamin are sort of transitional films that not coincidentally were released right as the US Army was transitioning to an all-professional force. Private Benjamin especially starts off great but doesn’t know what to do once she’s actually in the Army, and Stripes is sort of the same way. I would guess that in part obviously they’re films there needs to be escalating action and everything else, but also because once some is resocialized through basic training they’re just regular people doing a job, and that focus on the group is less relatable once the audience hasn’t experienced the transformation the characters have? I’m out of my depth with the film stuff, but I would say that in the 60’s they could make a very good movie about a tank crew but would fall into cliche for depictions of combat and using stock characters, but since then we can see all sorts of depictions of combat but nothing true to life about the people involved. Frosted Flake has issued a correction as of 23:51 on Mar 6, 2023 |
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Slim Jim Pickens posted:Fury is what you get when a profoundly alienated culture tries to make a movie about WWII. Because the mentality of the people who actually fought WWII is foreign to modern audiences, the movie instead takes cues from the USA's modern wars, and a bit of Vietnam. This is kind of why the original version of All Quiet on The Western Front is the only version I really enjoy. Everything afterwards was tainted in some way by WW2, and decades of stories and tropes of WW1 built up in the public mind, but that 1930's version is pure in that regard.
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