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ColdPie
Jun 9, 2006

Yeah that rules. Nice job filling the tuner holes, that looks tricky.

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Dang It Bhabhi!
May 27, 2004



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Yea that's what's kind of stopping me from trying this. I guess if you use a good plug wood with some titebond 3 it'll be fine?

Baron von Eevl
Jan 24, 2005

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Sockington posted:

I’m absolute poo poo at guitar, but I was told this guy now gets lumped in this thread now instead of bass.

Took a 30” Squier Bronco bass, routed out a pocket for a Tele bridge pickup and drilled a wire pass thru to the original pick guard area. Plugged the tuner holes and crudely slapped in some vintage off brand tuners to get the job done. Sent it to my setup guy and it just came home tonight. Middle pickup is a DiMarzio FastTrak2 hot rail. Bridge pickup is a Classic Vibe pickup. Now that I can gently caress around with it, I might put some effort into the polish factor but I couldn’t commit until I knew I hadn’t totally wasted money on this plan.






gently caress you $1500 Squier Jazzmaster baritones on Reverb. This is my Squier BarryTone Bronco.

Unf gently caress

My man

BizarroAzrael
Apr 6, 2006

"That must weigh heavily on your soul. Let me purge it for you."

Sockington posted:

I’m absolute poo poo at guitar, but I was told this guy now gets lumped in this thread now instead of bass.

Took a 30” Squier Bronco bass, routed out a pocket for a Tele bridge pickup and drilled a wire pass thru to the original pick guard area. Plugged the tuner holes and crudely slapped in some vintage off brand tuners to get the job done. Sent it to my setup guy and it just came home tonight. Middle pickup is a DiMarzio FastTrak2 hot rail. Bridge pickup is a Classic Vibe pickup. Now that I can gently caress around with it, I might put some effort into the polish factor but I couldn’t commit until I knew I hadn’t totally wasted money on this plan.






gently caress you $1500 Squier Jazzmaster baritones on Reverb. This is my Squier BarryTone Bronco.

Sick, so how do you have this tuned? Looks like you could use it as a baritone or bass vi, I would think depending on tuning and string guage.

luchadornado
Oct 7, 2004

A boombox is not a toy!

Red_Fred posted:

Ah in that case maybe I’ll get that when I next get a setup done. Does it negate getting locking tuners as well?

A proper setup and a good nut job can do wonders for people that have problems with going out of tune. My limited experience has been that locking tuners seem more useful for easy string changes than anything else. I also don't mess with trems fwiw.

Sockington
Jul 26, 2003

BizarroAzrael posted:

Sick, so how do you have this tuned? Looks like you could use it as a baritone or bass vi, I would think depending on tuning and string guage.

Daddario EXL157 strings and tuned B to B. I only had a chance to plug it into some headphones, but the Tele pickup was probably a good call for a decent clean classic baritone sound. It can do that doom/sludge stuff seemingly well too from my 5-second per patch spin on the old 11rack.

If I transpose it, it absolutely nails the Beatles Daytripper kinda twangy note deal. I’m bad at guitar but decent at stupid projects, so take my tone evaluation for what you will so far.

Kazinsal
Dec 13, 2011


Oh wow.

I want like, four of those.

holefoods
Jan 10, 2022

Is there a thread recommendation for a good site to buy guitar parts? I have a Strat that I pieced together from some POS off brand body and dropped in some decent pickups and a Warmoth neck and it never felt quite right because I did this when I was 15 and had no real idea what I was doing.

I’d like to buy a different bridge and some new tuners - I checked Musician’s Friend and they don’t have a wide variety (I remember them having anything and everything like a decade ago). Seems to either be extremely good or very bad with the appropriate prices and I’d really just like to hit the acceptable midrange. Not too keen on Amazon for this, unless someone can recommend a good storefront.

TheMightyBoops
Nov 1, 2016

holefoods posted:

Is there a thread recommendation for a good site to buy guitar parts? I have a Strat that I pieced together from some POS off brand body and dropped in some decent pickups and a Warmoth neck and it never felt quite right because I did this when I was 15 and had no real idea what I was doing.

I’d like to buy a different bridge and some new tuners - I checked Musician’s Friend and they don’t have a wide variety (I remember them having anything and everything like a decade ago). Seems to either be extremely good or very bad with the appropriate prices and I’d really just like to hit the acceptable midrange. Not too keen on Amazon for this, unless someone can recommend a good storefront.

I use AliExpress and Guitar Fetish, but if you want name brand stuff you probably want StewMac.

holefoods
Jan 10, 2022

Not particularly concerned with things being name brand, honestly. The pick guard and some other small pieces I’ve grabbed from Ali but I wasn’t sure if a bridge would be a great buy or not.

TheMightyBoops
Nov 1, 2016

holefoods posted:

Not particularly concerned with things being name brand, honestly. The pick guard and some other small pieces I’ve grabbed from Ali but I wasn’t sure if a bridge would be a great buy or not.

Oh it looks like Sweetwater has Strat bridges for like 20 bucks for a fender one. Someone ITT mentioned they’d bought some locking tuners on Guitar Fetish that were nice.

holefoods
Jan 10, 2022

Sweetwater has some pretty nice deals - think I’ll probably just grab that Fender bridge you mentioned, wouldn’t be saving that much on Ali and the improved shipping time is worth it. Thanks!

I’ll have to make a post once I’ve got this thing set up like how I always imagined it to be

TEMPLE GRANDIN OS
Dec 10, 2003

...blyat
the shop I take my lessons at got in a bunch of gibsons including a walnut sg tribute that ruled and I'll probably get one

also a 6000 dollers lp black beauty that weighed 500 lbs that I also want even with its 50's thicc neck

Wowporn
May 31, 2012

HarumphHarumphHarumph
I am way late to this but I think the reason Danelectros are “expensive” for being built outta Masonite is cause all their stuff is built in either Korea or New Jersey. They are well worth the $425-ish I got my seafoam green 59 Nos+ for, IMO

Major Operation
Jan 1, 2006

holefoods posted:

Is there a thread recommendation for a good site to buy guitar parts? I have a Strat that I pieced together from some POS off brand body and dropped in some decent pickups and a Warmoth neck and it never felt quite right because I did this when I was 15 and had no real idea what I was doing.

I’d like to buy a different bridge and some new tuners - I checked Musician’s Friend and they don’t have a wide variety (I remember them having anything and everything like a decade ago). Seems to either be extremely good or very bad with the appropriate prices and I’d really just like to hit the acceptable midrange. Not too keen on Amazon for this, unless someone can recommend a good storefront.
Seems like you might already have found a source for your stuff, but for general future reference:

AllParts has a wide selection of guitar parts.

Stratosphere Parts has a pretty good selection (especially for Strat, as far as I recall).

Philadelphia Luthier Tools sources stuff from a variety of places (also an AllParts reseller).

Warmoth sells hardware like bridges and tuners as well.

For electronic parts specifically, Amplified Parts has a good selection.

StewMac has a good selection but is never the cheapest.

I've also just bought stuff through sellers on Reverb. I got Graphtech tuners from a seller on there most recently.

The Leck
Feb 27, 2001

holefoods posted:

Is there a thread recommendation for a good site to buy guitar parts? I have a Strat that I pieced together from some POS off brand body and dropped in some decent pickups and a Warmoth neck and it never felt quite right because I did this when I was 15 and had no real idea what I was doing.

I’d like to buy a different bridge and some new tuners - I checked Musician’s Friend and they don’t have a wide variety (I remember them having anything and everything like a decade ago). Seems to either be extremely good or very bad with the appropriate prices and I’d really just like to hit the acceptable midrange. Not too keen on Amazon for this, unless someone can recommend a good storefront.
Don't forget to check Reverb too. I recently bought some Jazzmaster parts from this shop, and they had super quick shipping and good prices. There were a few other shops that turned up i my search as well with a ton of parts, especially if you want real stuff and you can search by model numbers. https://reverb.com/shop/guitar-audio

e: also, ordering directly from Fender can sometimes be a good choice. I ordered some replacement tuners to fix one that broke on a tele, and they were significantly cheaper direct from Fender than from any other store, for the exact same model number. Not sure about fit issues with partscaster like yours, but if you know what you want, take a look there too.

The Leck fucked around with this message at 15:12 on Mar 10, 2023

Sweaty IT Nerd
Jul 13, 2007

Sockington posted:

I’m absolute poo poo at guitar, but I was told this guy now gets lumped in this thread now instead of bass.

So dope.

Blotto_Otter
Aug 16, 2013


Got a DiMarzio Humbucker from Hell in the mail yesterday, as soon as the kids went to bed I grabbed the soldering iron and popped it in the neck of my partscaster. I love it, clearer and brighter than the GFS "Mean 90" I originally put in there, takes to distortion well and seems to pair nicely with my Chopper T in the middle position. I'm now 2 for 2 on trying out DiMarzio pickups and being very happy with them, so I guess I'm a DiMarzio fanboy now despite their naming schemes being stuck in the 90s. (The "Humbucker from Hell" is a bright, low-output neck humbucker rather than some high-output death metal machine, so the name only makes sense once you realize that it was launched in 1992.)

Major Operation posted:

Seems like you might already have found a source for your stuff, but for general future reference:

AllParts has a wide selection of guitar parts.

Stratosphere Parts has a pretty good selection (especially for Strat, as far as I recall).

Philadelphia Luthier Tools sources stuff from a variety of places (also an AllParts reseller).

Warmoth sells hardware like bridges and tuners as well.

For electronic parts specifically, Amplified Parts has a good selection.

StewMac has a good selection but is never the cheapest.

I've also just bought stuff through sellers on Reverb. I got Graphtech tuners from a seller on there most recently.
this is a good list. I've had good luck getting miscellaneous parts from Philadelphia Luthier Tools and random sellers on Reverb. I've had mixed luck with Guitar Fetish. (The aforementioned GFS pickup was decent quality even though I didn't care for it in my particular setup, but the Telecaster wiring kit I got from them a few months back was trash.)

Sockington posted:

gently caress you $1500 Squier Jazzmaster baritones on Reverb. This is my Squier BarryTone Bronco.
this is loving rad. everyone in the thread post more stuff like this

Southern Cassowary
Jan 3, 2023

the baritone bronco rules

Good Soldier Svejk
Jul 5, 2010

baritonco or broncitone

TheMightyBoops
Nov 1, 2016

My PUs just got here, they’re older Epiphone humbuckers, it looks like each one has a hot lead and a ground, can I just solder the ground to back of the volume pot? It’s the same exact length as the lead, so I assume that’s what you’re supposed to do?

TEMPLE GRANDIN OS
Dec 10, 2003

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Dang It Bhabhi!
May 27, 2004



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TheMightyBoops posted:

My PUs just got here, they’re older Epiphone humbuckers, it looks like each one has a hot lead and a ground, can I just solder the ground to back of the volume pot? It’s the same exact length as the lead, so I assume that’s what you’re supposed to do?

You can solder it to anything that's connected to ground, assuming the back of your pots are connected to ground, thus back of the pot will work just fine.

The Leck
Feb 27, 2001

Blotto_Otter posted:

Got a DiMarzio Humbucker from Hell in the mail yesterday, as soon as the kids went to bed I grabbed the soldering iron and popped it in the neck of my partscaster. I love it, clearer and brighter than the GFS "Mean 90" I originally put in there, takes to distortion well and seems to pair nicely with my Chopper T in the middle position. I'm now 2 for 2 on trying out DiMarzio pickups and being very happy with them, so I guess I'm a DiMarzio fanboy now despite their naming schemes being stuck in the 90s. (The "Humbucker from Hell" is a bright, low-output neck humbucker rather than some high-output death metal machine, so the name only makes sense once you realize that it was launched in 1992.)
I’ve heard of this one, and it sounds like something I might like. What’s the brightest, trebliest humbucker available? I’ve heard people mention Humbucker from Hell, SD Jazz, filtertrons, gold foils?

Dang It Bhabhi!
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What you want to know is what is the pickup with the highest resonant peak frequency. So you pull up this not very scientific chart of various pickup measurements and...

http://www.echoesofmars.com/pickup_...electedRow~307)

Looks like Filtertrons are the jangle chime masters at a whopping 15.3kHz unloaded. Humbucker from Hell comes in at a very respectable 11.5kHz. For comparison, Fender Fat 50s come in at about 9.6kHz unloaded. When you load them up with a 10 foot Fender cable it's 6.1kHz, 4.6kHz and 5kHz (loading can do weird things!).

I've found lots of errors in that website's data so take it with a grain of salt.

TheMightyBoops
Nov 1, 2016

poo poo dude my new Les Paul fits together:

Sockington
Jul 26, 2003

TheMightyBoops posted:

poo poo dude my new Les Paul fits together:


Noice. I never ended up digging the humbuckers I was playing with in my lifelong Strat, so threw in some BG Pups Pure90s. They’ve been there years and make it a unique one for the rack.



Also, big Tele and little Tele

landgrabber
Sep 13, 2015

my band wasnt really feeling this so here's my impression of some more post-rock-y emo. sorry for the pitchy vox!

https://vocaroo.com/1l31djYlydV8

The Leck
Feb 27, 2001

Dang It Bhabhi! posted:

What you want to know is what is the pickup with the highest resonant peak frequency. So you pull up this not very scientific chart of various pickup measurements and...

http://www.echoesofmars.com/pickup_...electedRow~307)

Looks like Filtertrons are the jangle chime masters at a whopping 15.3kHz unloaded. Humbucker from Hell comes in at a very respectable 11.5kHz. For comparison, Fender Fat 50s come in at about 9.6kHz unloaded. When you load them up with a 10 foot Fender cable it's 6.1kHz, 4.6kHz and 5kHz (loading can do weird things!).

I've found lots of errors in that website's data so take it with a grain of salt.
Interesting! Just going by where the few name brand pickups I know I've used are on the chart (JB and SH-1N '59, Twisted Tele), I feel like the humbuckers I've used are at the wrong end of the chart for me. Kind of getting the urge to build a stupid partscaster now.

Gramps
Dec 30, 2006


Arguably the biggest guitar dork band out there right now had a new record come out today. It's really excellent. So many fun little parts to geek out on. It gets crushingly heavy too, but they leave room for lots of hooks. This kind of music is not easy to do well but Periphery succeeds more than they fail. Cool video too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ppg8kpG-lio

lazerwolf
Dec 22, 2009

Orange and Black

landgrabber posted:

my band wasnt really feeling this so here's my impression of some more post-rock-y emo. sorry for the pitchy vox!

https://vocaroo.com/1l31djYlydV8

Very American Football esque. I really dig it

MrMojok
Jan 28, 2011

What kind of bridge is thought to be best for reducing part of the friction that causes it to go out of tune when you get on the tremolo bar?

Is brass better than bone? Graphite?

Blotto_Otter
Aug 16, 2013


The Leck posted:

I’ve heard of this one, and it sounds like something I might like. What’s the brightest, trebliest humbucker available? I’ve heard people mention Humbucker from Hell, SD Jazz, filtertrons, gold foils?

I do not have nearly enough experience with humbuckers to state which ones are the brightest/trebliest ... but based on a bunch of reading and listening to some YouTube demos, some other ones that I was thinking of before pulling the trigger on the Humbucker from Hell were Dimarzio's EJ Custom (which is also up there on bhabhi's chart), the Fralin Twangmaster or Big Single, or some kind of Filtertron. I like the look of the Fralin pickups, but they are... not cheap. The Dimarzio's aren't exactly dirt cheap either, but the Fralins are close to twice as much and I doubt I'd find them twice as good.

The Leck posted:

Kind of getting the urge to build a stupid partscaster now.

do it, stupid partscasters are fun as hell

Gramps
Dec 30, 2006


MrMojok posted:

What kind of bridge is thought to be best for reducing part of the friction that causes it to go out of tune when you get on the tremolo bar?

Is brass better than bone? Graphite?

As long as the bridge is in good shape, it's generally not necessarily friction that causes tuning issues, so I only typically recommend replacing saddles if there's a string breakage issue. Most of your tuning issues are coming from the nut anyway. If your trem goes out of tune, listen for creaking- it's probably your strings binding in the nut.

Anyway back to bridges- most guitars that have bridges that move are dependent on having the system set up correctly so it reliably returns to zero. It needs to be adjusted perfectly, and there can not be anything that causes any creaking or clunking in the movement. It needs to be smooth so it reliably returns to zero. This usually just means making sure everything down there is set up correctly and your pivot points are working as intended. In the case of knife edge type bridges like floyds, it means your bridge posts need to be in good shape and your knife edges need to be relatively sharp and shaped as intended. With screw-pivot bridges like a strat you just have to make sure the pivot screws are set correctly so nothing is binding.

MrMojok
Jan 28, 2011

Gramps posted:

As long as the bridge is in good shape, it's generally not necessarily friction that causes tuning issues, so I only typically recommend replacing saddles if there's a string breakage issue. Most of your tuning issues are coming from the nut anyway. If your trem goes out of tune, listen for creaking- it's probably your strings binding in the nut.

Anyway back to bridges- most guitars that have bridges that move are dependent on having the system set up correctly so it reliably returns to zero. It needs to be adjusted perfectly, and there can not be anything that causes any creaking or clunking in the movement. It needs to be smooth so it reliably returns to zero. This usually just means making sure everything down there is set up correctly and your pivot points are working as intended. In the case of knife edge type bridges like floyds, it means your bridge posts need to be in good shape and your knife edges need to be relatively sharp and shaped as intended. With screw-pivot bridges like a strat you just have to make sure the pivot screws are set correctly so nothing is binding.

poo poo, I am so sorry. I wrote bridge when I meant to write nut. My question was, is brass or bone or graphite nut better for this purpose?

Baron von Eevl
Jan 24, 2005

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I like graphite or graphtech (which is a synthetic bone nut infused with nonstick poo poo), but I also hate trems.

Gramps
Dec 30, 2006


MrMojok posted:

poo poo, I am so sorry. I wrote bridge when I meant to write nut. My question was, is brass or bone or graphite nut better for this purpose?

Graphite/graphtech are great, Bone is fine too if well made and properly lubricated. My #1 guitar has a graphtech that I gave a pretty good working over to when I bought it . I can do full dive bombs on it, no locking nut or bridge. Locking tuners, but honestly those have almost no effect on tuning stability.

Edit: It's a 2018 Ibanez AZ242. Basically a perfect guitar for the money.

Gramps fucked around with this message at 03:41 on Mar 11, 2023

TheMightyBoops
Nov 1, 2016

One more boring grounding question. I noticed that for a Les Paul you have to run jumper wires to all the pots to ground everything, because my pickgaurd has shielding on it though I only need the ground that runs to the trem claw right ?

luchadornado
Oct 7, 2004

A boombox is not a toy!

While we're on grounding chat and I'm building my partscaster - is it worth shielding the pick guard? I was going to shield the pickup cavities with foil

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muike
Mar 16, 2011

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you gotta do both to get the full effect. and you gotta make sure it's got conductive adhesive or else you need to add solder to get the full connection

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