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What is the most powerful flying bug?
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🦋 15 3.71%
🦇 115 28.47%
🪰 12 2.97%
🐦 67 16.58%
dragonfly 94 23.27%
🦟 14 3.47%
🐝 87 21.53%
Total: 404 votes
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Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012

That tweet forgot about Iran, too. What's going on there. Did the protests finally end after the government disbanded the morality police?

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Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.

Frosted Flake posted:

I mean it does drive me a little crazy that we have policy papers saying explicitly that on the next go round the Georgian Army will hide in cities and dare Russia to flatten them and kill the civilian population, but how do we turn that into an English-language sign in street protests?

"NATO plans Georgia's destruction to weaken Russia" is a little long winded.

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

r*p*f*c*

lol I love that they have a top 5 birds page. how are they ranked?!

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

Frosted Flake posted:

I mean it does drive me a little crazy that we have policy papers saying explicitly that on the next go round the Georgian Army will hide in cities and dare Russia to flatten them and kill the civilian population, but how do we turn that into an English-language sign in street protests?

"Freedom or death"

That one is free. I can make up more for a briefcase of unmarked non-denominated swiss francs.

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

crepeface posted:

lol I love that they have a top 5 birds page. how are they ranked?!

tomatometer score

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

Maximo Roboto posted:

That tweet forgot about Iran, too. What's going on there. Did the protests finally end after the government disbanded the morality police?

they never disbanded the morality police :confused:

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

Russia isn't playing to the social media crowd, they're all still a bunch of ruling class factions trying to make deals with the ruling class of other countries.

Kremlin is doing it's own thing, while the people do theirs.

Delta-Wye
Sep 29, 2005

crepeface posted:

lol I love that they have a top 5 birds page. how are they ranked?!

by birdness, duh

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

Lostconfused posted:

Russia isn't playing to the social media crowd, they're all still a bunch of ruling class factions trying to make deals with the ruling class of other countries.

Kremlin is doing it's own thing, while the people do theirs.

I understand that practically, I meant more narratively there's yet to be a good alternative to "neoliberalism and death" with a smiling face.

When protestors clamour for vaguely defined "freedom" or whatever, Russia and China have not had a very effective way to counterbalance that. Obviously we know, and so do China and Russia that Colour Revolutions, anti-corruption movements, whatever, those are just western interests, but it would be nice to be able to do what Cuba and Venezuela do and turn out massive counterdemonstrations with an equally well defined and positive message.

Riot shields, tear gas and T-55s are the response Colour Revolutions are intended to provoke, and so far the best way to stop them, but as we were saying earlier it means that they're always a close run thing as the measures taken to stop them reinforce the narrative that the state consists of jackbooted thugs crushing protesters demanding freedom.

Frosted Flake has issued a correction as of 04:28 on Mar 11, 2023

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy
The color revolution playbook is so well documented at this point that any country who still falls for it has only themself to blame.

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

There were counter protests.

Donrf posted:



Typical hohlukha. The funny thing is that I was. Actually, I was at Anti-Maidan, but in December, the first time I came, I took off the ribbon with a friend and went to see the dignity. Here, I photographed the barricade made of garbage. And I poked fun at the grandpa at the entrance. Said that Yanuk pays us hundred dollars a day (I lied), in response I heard in Russian "bitches, we get three hundred hryvnias per day." The grandfather even managed to remembered the language.
(from t.me/donrf22/16594, via tgsa)

But they didn't have the kind of government and NGO backing needed to come out on top.

The separatists organizing into a militia shows that there was popular support for a counter coup, but the Ukrainian government was too dysfunctional to make use of it and the Kremlin was too asleep at the wheel to even bother.

Edit: Still need to wait and see how Georgia shakes out.

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

DancingShade posted:

The color revolution playbook is so well documented at this point that any country who still falls for it has only themself to blame.

Well, okay I'll put this to the thread, what would you do?

Frosted Flake has issued a correction as of 05:12 on Mar 11, 2023

ModernMajorGeneral
Jun 25, 2010

Frosted Flake posted:

I understand that practically, I meant more narratively there's yet to be a good alternative to "neoliberalism and death" with a smiling face.

When protestors clamour for vaguely defined "freedom" or whatever, Russia and China have not had a very effective way to counterbalance that. Obviously we know, and so do China and Russia that Colour Revolutions, anti-corruption movements, whatever, those are just western interests, but it would be nice to be able to do what Cuba and Venezuela do and turn out massive counterdemonstrations with an equally well defined and positive message.

Riot shields, tear gas and T-55s are the response Colour Revolutions are intended to provoke, and so far the best way to stop them, but as we were saying earlier it means that they're always a close run thing as the measures taken to stop them reinforce the narrative that the state consists of jackbooted thugs crushing protesters demanding freedom.

Russia can't concoct an effective way to counterbalance colour revolutions because it barely stands for anything meaningful in the same way the West doesn't. The government can only argue that defending the state and its resources in order to be exploited by Russian oligarchs is better than being pillaged by Western oligarchs (which is true!) but the effective unifying message to the citizens has been killed deliberately by the Russian government :ussr:

China should be able to do better for obvious reasons, but the government is popular and attempts at colour revolution have repeatedly fizzled out, so do they really need to improve their communications?

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

More like Generative Pre-Trained Tankie, amirite?



That the outlines are so well known a chatbot is aware of them, while liberals feign ignorance, is pretty funny.

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe
china doesn't really need to launch coups because they can usually get foreign governments onboard with economic incentives

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

Yeah China is following Stalin's socialism in one country instead of world revolution Trotsky.

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

Интербригады 2022 posted:

Opening America

Our good friend - poet "America". Pyatnashka's volunteer, who was wounded and has already returned to active duty. He survived not only the storming of Avdeevka, survived a childhood in San Francisco, and clearly expects to see the capture of Kiev.

#PortraitofaVolunteer

@interbrigady2022
(from t.me/interbrigady2022/1571, via tgsa)

Well this guy is not coming back state side.

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

Frosted Flake posted:

Well, okay I'll put this to the thread, what would you do?



Nothing I'd want to go on record as a suggestion even in jest.

edit - wait I got one. Masters of Orion 2 hive mind civilisation, or autocrat, with extensive spy network dedicated entirely to internal security.

edit2 - ban any non officially endorsed or managed NGOs for a start. I would be surprised if there was a single charity in the world that wasn't a vector for someone or other.

DancingShade has issued a correction as of 05:47 on Mar 11, 2023

Deadly Ham Sandwich
Aug 19, 2009
Smellrose

Frosted Flake posted:

I mean it does drive me a little crazy that we have policy papers saying explicitly that on the next go round the Georgian Army will hide in cities and dare Russia to flatten them and kill the civilian population, but how do we turn that into an English-language sign in street protests?

It doesn't matter what counter protest you stage if US aligned media is pushing the narrative of a colour revolution; they will push the US message. You need some other way to project your message. Why do you think China made TikTok? :china:

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

Ukraine is going for the big W and is about to end Russia

https://twitter.com/ArthurM40330824/status/1634415043004571649

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

Deadly Ham Sandwich posted:

It doesn't matter what counter protest you stage if US aligned media is pushing the narrative of a colour revolution; they will push the US message. You need some other way to project your message. Why do you think China made TikTok? :china:

Political power grows out of the barrel of a phone app

- Mao

Deadly Ham Sandwich
Aug 19, 2009
Smellrose

They should have sent them more shovels.

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost
M'scovy

evilmiera
Dec 14, 2009

Status: Ravenously Rambunctious

AnimeIsTrash posted:

they never disbanded the morality police :confused:

Yeah, this is true, they just said they might and then never did.

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

Lostconfused posted:

Ukraine is going for the big W and is about to end Russia

https://twitter.com/ArthurM40330824/status/1634415043004571649

I'd just tell my map people to cross out [other country] and write [poo poo heads] on the official map. With crayon.

Then I'd badly photcopy it (using default black & white because I forgot to use the color setting) and direct everyone to glue copies into every atlas or book with a map. That would really show them.

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

r*p*f*c*

Deadly Ham Sandwich posted:

It doesn't matter what counter protest you stage if US aligned media is pushing the narrative of a colour revolution; they will push the US message. You need some other way to project your message. Why do you think China made TikTok? :china:

lol yeah the "COVID protests" was great evidence of that

Gravid Topiary
Feb 16, 2012

mlmp08 posted:

ALL BIRDS ARE GOOD.

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost

owns, what a champion

HonorableTB
Dec 22, 2006

Lostconfused posted:

Ukraine is going for the big W and is about to end Russia

https://twitter.com/ArthurM40330824/status/1634415043004571649

Lol

Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.
I love the nutsack bird.

Tankbuster
Oct 1, 2021
dennis smeagol

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005


This is a good bird. Maybe a little rough around the edges, but you can tell from his eyes that he has a kind soul.

Not that other bird. It had hosed up dead eyes. A shameful bird.

Cuttlefush
Jan 15, 2014

gotta have my purp

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost

Ytlaya posted:

This is a good bird. Maybe a little rough around the edges, but you can tell from his eyes that he has a kind soul.

Not that other bird. It had hosed up dead eyes. A shameful bird.



CODChimera
Jan 29, 2009

some good birds being posted

HiroProtagonist
May 7, 2007

Answer coalition is PSL's mass org and usually front these things for the party, they're legit

HiroProtagonist
May 7, 2007

So the deal with this is basically that the USAID and State don't want to have to disclose all the dollars going in there right

Normal citizens just normally pissed off about more paperwork for NGOs as normal citizens will do?

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

oh noooo not the innocent WWF
Russia lists World Wildlife Fund, others as foreign agents | AP News

apnews.com posted:

Russia on Friday added the World Wildlife Fund to its register of foreign agents, along with a prominent Kremlin critic, a renowned economist and a few others.

Russian law requires individuals and organizations that are determined to have received foreign funding and to have engaged in loosely defined “political activity” to identify themselves as “foreign agents.”

The label brings additional government scrutiny. It also carries a strong pejorative connotation in Russia. Authorities have used the law to discredit those listed and to stifle dissent.

The World Wildlife Fund, which is headquartered in Washington, is a conservation group with projects throughout the world, including in Russia.

Explaining the decision in Moscow, the Russian Justice Ministry said the organization, “under the guise of protecting nature and the environment ... tried to influence the decisions of the executive and legislative authorities” and “hindered the implementation of industrial and infrastructure projects.”

WWF representatives told Russian news site Meduza that the decision to designate the organization as a foreign agent was unfounded. They promised to contest in court and stressed the group would continue to “protect rare animal species and preserve Russia’s nature.”

(the innocent WWF: Is the Saintly World Wildlife Fund Really a Stalking Horse in the Global South Colluding with Transnational Corporate Interests? )

Starsfan
Sep 29, 2007

This is what happens when you disrespect Cam Neely

Lostconfused posted:

Ukraine is going for the big W and is about to end Russia

https://twitter.com/ArthurM40330824/status/1634415043004571649

:siren: :siren: this is exactly the move that all the experts were theorizing would lead to "Russia" being kicked off of the the security council of the UN! "Muscovy" is not a recognized entity by the United Nations! :siren: :siren:

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Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.

Ytlaya posted:

This is a good bird. Maybe a little rough around the edges, but you can tell from his eyes that he has a kind soul.

Not that other bird. It had hosed up dead eyes. A shameful bird.

Those eyes aren't dead, mlmp merely misidentified it. That bird is a stoned curlew.

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