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https://twitter.com/greenbenali/status/1634602357936775169?s=20
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# ? Mar 11, 2023 21:59 |
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# ? Jun 7, 2024 22:36 |
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"Abolish the Home Office" Why are Green parties like this? lol worse than useless.
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# ? Mar 11, 2023 22:02 |
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I might vote green purely on the back of abolish the home office
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# ? Mar 11, 2023 22:02 |
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Jose posted:I might vote green purely on the back of abolish the home office
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# ? Mar 11, 2023 22:03 |
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it’s a rotten institution to the core, get rid and build something better imo
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# ? Mar 11, 2023 22:06 |
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Frosted Flake posted:"Abolish the Home Office" Abolish the Home Office is a great policy While they're at it abolish the DWP as well
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# ? Mar 11, 2023 22:11 |
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Frosted Flake posted:"Abolish the Home Office" What do you think "the Home Office" is, in this context? Because you may not have realised that it's the government department behind the most vile, racist policies and legislation and the Home Secretary is typically the most psychotic MP in the party of government
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# ? Mar 11, 2023 22:14 |
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Counter terrorism, counter intelligence, fire and rescue, passports. Those functions all need to continue, no matter who’s in charge.
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# ? Mar 11, 2023 22:36 |
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90s Cringe Rock posted:the promise has been carved into the ed stone
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# ? Mar 11, 2023 22:40 |
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Frosted Flake posted:Counter terrorism, counter intelligence, fire and rescue, passports. Counterpoint: under a just system no one currently doing those things would be responsible for doing those things. Fire and rescue isn't under the home office but there's a brewing scandal there about institutional sexism almost as bad as the police so lol
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# ? Mar 11, 2023 22:41 |
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namesake posted:Counterpoint: under a just system no one currently doing those things would be responsible for doing those things. True. You’d need to be as ruthless clearing people out as Labour was going after Corbyn supporters. It’s a shame that only ever seems to cut one way.
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# ? Mar 11, 2023 22:43 |
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Frosted Flake posted:Counter terrorism, counter intelligence, fire and rescue, passports. You're just repeating the establishment argument against defunding the police. Those functions can be carried out by departments that aren't rotten to the core.
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# ? Mar 11, 2023 22:47 |
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"Abolish X" is usually a really bad slogan unless you're willing to spend 5 minutes elucidating how you're going to replace / reform what you're abolishing (which the OP ends up doing in the comments) I agree the Home Office should be broken up and migration made its own office run in an egalitarian humane way, "Abolish the Home Office" doesn't convey that
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# ? Mar 11, 2023 22:57 |
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"Abolish the home office" absolutely conveys that.
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# ? Mar 11, 2023 22:59 |
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it's not a great line. now, "Abolish the Home Office and publicly execute everyone who works there"? that's got some zing.
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# ? Mar 11, 2023 23:19 |
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:it's not a great line. now, "Abolish the Home Office, the DWP and publicly execute everyone who works there & the cabinet while we're at it. Maybe throw in some Tory donors too for good measure"? that's got some zing.
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# ? Mar 11, 2023 23:21 |
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Frosted Flake posted:Counter terrorism, counter intelligence, fire and rescue, passports. fair enough but they’re failing at all those things already for example, manchester arena bombing by an mi6 asset, grenfell and if you need a passport renewal in less than six months good luck
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# ? Mar 11, 2023 23:23 |
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Abolish the home office comes straight from the mind kampf in The Thick of It series 4. Yes and ho.
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# ? Mar 11, 2023 23:30 |
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Frosted Flake posted:Counter terrorism, counter intelligence, fire and rescue, passports. Idk, there might be less terrorism to counter if you didn't have counter-terrorism goobers intervene whenever one of their assets gets picked up for honestly filling out the "Do you want to commit terrorism" question at the airport. genericnick has issued a correction as of 23:59 on Mar 11, 2023 |
# ? Mar 11, 2023 23:35 |
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Counter terrorism is when a state we like does terrorism
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# ? Mar 11, 2023 23:54 |
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Go ahead, throw your vote away
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# ? Mar 11, 2023 23:54 |
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Domestic terrorism mentioned? As good a time as any to say the territorial army drilled with british gladio franchise Column 88, neo-nazi terrorist group like two steps removed from that skinhead oval office who nailbombed gay pubs
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# ? Mar 11, 2023 23:57 |
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Sir Sidney Poitier posted:Abolish the home office comes straight from the mind kampf in The Thick of It series 4. Russian warship, go gently caress yourself!
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# ? Mar 12, 2023 00:00 |
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you can have a terrorism, as a treat
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# ? Mar 12, 2023 00:10 |
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Not So Fast posted:"Abolish X" is usually a really bad slogan unless you're willing to spend 5 minutes elucidating how you're going to replace / reform what you're abolishing (which the OP ends up doing in the comments) I want it and all its permanent employees thrown into a giant blender op
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# ? Mar 12, 2023 00:17 |
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Frosted Flake posted:Counter terrorism, counter intelligence, fire and rescue, passports. lol
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# ? Mar 12, 2023 00:23 |
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Not So Fast posted:"Abolish X" is usually a really bad slogan unless you're willing to spend 5 minutes elucidating how you're going to replace / reform what you're abolishing (which the OP ends up doing in the comments) I don't think you understand sloganeering OP. The idea is for something short and snappy that might make you want to know more, rather than something long and factually accurate but boring. "Demand the impossible", "property is theft", "all power to the Soviets", there's more complex meanings behind all of these that are harder to convey in 8 words of fewer
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# ? Mar 12, 2023 00:37 |
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forkboy84 posted:I don't think you understand sloganeering OP. The idea is for something short and snappy that might make you want to know more, rather than something long and factually accurate but boring. "Demand the impossible", "property is theft", "all power to the Soviets", there's more complex meanings behind all of these that are harder to convey in 8 words of fewer Yeah you need 14 words for that
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# ? Mar 12, 2023 00:41 |
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Jose posted:Yeah you need 14 words for that LOL
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# ? Mar 12, 2023 00:53 |
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forkboy84 posted:I don't think you understand sloganeering OP. The idea is for something short and snappy that might make you want to know more, rather than something long and factually accurate but boring. "Demand the impossible", "property is theft", "all power to the Soviets", there's more complex meanings behind all of these that are harder to convey in 8 words of fewer people understand sloganeering they just think it's a poo poo slogan
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# ? Mar 12, 2023 01:00 |
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Impressed nobody scabbed and did commentary for MotD
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# ? Mar 12, 2023 05:44 |
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Frosted Flake posted:Counter terrorism, counter intelligence, fire and rescue, passports. woah hang on now, googling things is Leon’s job
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# ? Mar 12, 2023 07:10 |
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Trying posted:Impressed nobody scabbed and did commentary for MotD it was absolutely dire, had to switch it off after 5 minutes
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# ? Mar 12, 2023 10:42 |
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Not So Fast posted:"Abolish X" is usually a really bad slogan unless you're willing to spend 5 minutes elucidating how you're going to replace / reform what you're abolishing (which the OP ends up doing in the comments) I want to abolish your posting
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# ? Mar 12, 2023 10:47 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlORWhsJjNM E: how do youtube embeds work again gonadic io has issued a correction as of 11:25 on Mar 12, 2023 |
# ? Mar 12, 2023 10:48 |
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gonadic io posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlORWhsJjNM Automatically (at least on browser) if you just paste a link without typing in any BBCode beforehand.
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# ? Mar 12, 2023 10:52 |
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"abolish the home office" is more obviously unworkable than its predecessor, "abolish ICE" which was already not a good slogan when you write "abolish" something, the most parsimonious interpretation is that you don't think that the things that the entity is doing need doing. when this includes stuff like issuing passports, it immediately hits a snag. "break up the home office" would probably have been better because it allows more leeway for the listener, but it's less snappy
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# ? Mar 12, 2023 11:42 |
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2.5 million people watched MOTD, 500k bigger than usual. Take that, woke Lineker. It’s coming home.
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# ? Mar 12, 2023 11:53 |
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Quotey posted:2.5 million people watched MOTD, 500k bigger than usual. Take that, woke Lineker. It’s coming home. It was coming home but it got stopped at the border and deported to Rwanda.
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# ? Mar 12, 2023 11:58 |
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# ? Jun 7, 2024 22:36 |
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Policing your own tone so rigorously that it's brought up every single time anybody says anything, toward the end that people who don't believe anything and have no ideology beyond believing that you, personally, are no better than a terrorist because you don't worship business owners and landlords, is sure to work this time.
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# ? Mar 12, 2023 11:59 |