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This Kang card man. I bought it and so far people lock in the exact same plays after the kang turn. I get why it's just kind of free cubes so far.
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No Wave posted:This Kang card man. I bought it and so far people lock in the exact same plays after the kang turn. I get why it's just kind of free cubes so far. I've only encountered it once, but I get it.. sometimes its either that move or retreat, and Kang could effectively be a bluff or scare tactic.
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Mar 14, 2023 14:29
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I've done the same thing vs kang before just because it's my best play anyways and I would feel dumber losing to make a weaker play. But now that I've seen that it's what so many people do I'll probably try harder to switch the plays.
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Mar 14, 2023 14:31
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Aramoro posted:Been waiting to see who comes up in my token shop but its been Hood for 2 days now. He's not pinned, just not changing. Oh good a new card in the Token Shop, it's The Hood again, what is happening. Edit: He's my only missing pool 3 cards so I guess I pull him forever till I get him
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Mar 14, 2023 14:55
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Well I just ran into a deck that goes Shuri into Nimrod, then kills Nimrod twice in the next two turns with Venom and then Carnage
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Mar 14, 2023 15:06
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Aramoro posted:Oh good a new card in the Token Shop, it's The Hood again, what is happening. You'll be offered at least one S4 card in that time. If you still have S3s to get I think it's 40:30:20:10 ratio of S3, S4, S5 and Ultimate variants, in that order.
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Mar 14, 2023 15:08
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I really don't get this game sometimes. My opponent and I just got Lamentis-1'd. He had Squirrel Girl and Misty Knight out so clearly Patriot. When I play Patriot, most games he never even shows up because the universe hates me. This bastard was able to play Patriot, Mystique, Blue Marvel, and Ultron. I had him until Ultron but like what are the loving odds that he'd get literally everything he'd need in his opener + 3 cards? Christ on bike I need that kind of luck.. Will someone help me figure out what I'm doing wrong here since this meta seems to work for everyone else?  I don't have Titania or Zero. Those are the only two cards I normally see in this deck that I'm missing. I still feel like this should be pretty strong but I'm either getting hosed by RNG or players who can read my every thought. Should I make any changes or just accept that I'm doomed to failure? New Leaf fucked around with this message at 15:18 on Mar 14, 2023 |
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Mar 14, 2023 15:12
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Hobo Clown posted:Any good Sera decks? Just drew her from a cache. I have Zabu but not Surfer There's a bunch of great Sera lists but a lot of them rely on having a few other key cards. The classic Sera Control has gone through an evolution the past like month. If you have Luke Cage, Toxic Sera is a good one work up. If you have Darkhawk, Darkhawk Control is really loving good (especially with Thanos everywhere). It's a great card for last turn surprises. New Leaf posted:I really don't get this game sometimes. My opponent and I just got Lamentis-1'd. He had Squirrel Girl and Misty Knight out so clearly Patriot. When I play Patriot, most games he never even shows up because the universe hates me. This bastard was able to play Patriot, Mystique, Blue Marvel, and Ultron. I had him until Ultron but like what are the loving odds that he'd get literally everything he'd need in his opener + 3 cards? Christ on bike I need that kind of luck..
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Mar 14, 2023 15:22
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New Leaf posted:Will someone help me figure out what I'm doing wrong here since this meta seems to work for everyone else? I’d drop Zola for a 1 drop. You often want to play Taskmaster/Aero/Marvel on 6 and you sometimes need to fill up a location at the same time to counter an Aero on their side, meaning you need a 1 drop. Probably Nightcrawler.
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Mar 14, 2023 15:37
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Yeah you don’t really need Zola in that deck Ideal is T4 Shuri, T5 Red Skull, T6 Taskmaster
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Mar 14, 2023 15:45
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I finally managed to get Darkhawk today. Now to actually get any of his supports beyond Korg.
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Mar 14, 2023 15:59
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FlamingLiberal posted:Yeah you don’t really need Zola in that deck Adding to this Taskmaster and a 1 drop to take a lane or possibly fill up your red skull lane if there’s no cosmo to prevent being aero’d
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Mar 14, 2023 16:05
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Aramoro posted:Oh good a new card in the Token Shop, it's The Hood again, what is happening. I would gladly take him off your hands, The Hood is probably my most wanted card for non-meta reasons right now. This is because I'm apparently addicted to making Cerebro decks, and I'm currently workshopping a Cerebro 6 list using a destroy shell that he would really help tie together.
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Mar 14, 2023 16:19
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i had to see this, now you have to see it too LOOK AT IT
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New Leaf posted:Will someone help me figure out what I'm doing wrong here since this meta seems to work for everyone else? Agreed that Zola is probably overkill, and not that helpful either since half the time you're protecting your own guy via Armor. I know you don't have Zero or Titania, so consider Yondu, for the deck knowledge and key card destruction highroll . My version runs Zero and Kang and Vision in place of your Iceman and Zola and Captain Marvel. Zero because sometimes I don't draw Shuri but I still wanna play Red Skull on 5; also synergises with early Lizard, and turn 6 Task/Aero. Kang is Kang, there mostly to do safe Snaps and see if I'm likely to win when I'm feeling iffy of my odds. Vision over Captain Marvel because I prefer the control, and that 1 extra power can make a difference, especially if doubled. Is it as cool as Captain Marvel? No, but I feel like there have been so many games where CM's assessment of what to do is iffy, especially since Carol's priority is to win lanes, not games. Here're my considerations normally when running the deck: - Locations matter a lot, especially when you're considering which lanes to Armor and Cosmo. Assuming you get the choice, if say there's the Double Ongoing location, that means you should play Armor there over Cosmo - because if you hit the Red Skull -> Tasky combo, then you can't play Task on the Double Ongoing since On Reveals are blocked if Cosmo's there, which means Red Skull, but he will double benefit the opponent's cards there. Or maybe there's a Double On Reveal location, and you have Shuri and Cosmo...but you see that the opponent also wants to hit On Reveals. Do you double up on Shuri or Cosmo that lane early? (The answer is almost always shut that lane down) - When you get Bar Sinister (or whichever it is that dupes the card 4 times) you might want to consider Shuri'ing that lane, especially if you have Taskmaster in hand and have set up the other lanes safely. - Priority matters a lot when considering possible counters. Are they likely to be running Aero or Shang Chi? Against Aero you want to be going first, and against Shang Chi you want to be going second if you don't have protected lanes. If the deck is likely to have both Aero and Shang Chi, chances are they'll use Aero. While Shuri has a clear gameplan, often you can win by denying the enemy their gameplan. Sure, sometimes it's just another Shuri or someone that drew the nuts. Here are some that I look out for (spoiler: many of these are "Cosmo"). Discard: Normally I am saving that Cosmo unless I drew the nuts. Sometimes that means playing a turn 6 Cosmo on that Invisible Woman lane even when I can Tasky. Other times, it's identifying the non-Morbius, non-Dracula lane, then Cosmo-ing the last lane to block the likely MODOK. Alternatively, if you think it's the Hela variation, Aero on 6. It's really funny. Wong-likes: Again, Cosmo is bae. Assuming I know it's a low power archetype, I sometimes let them get one Wong off (assuming I think I have enough) then Cosmo/Aero late, on the Odin turn. If it's a standard power one with say White Tiger, then I'm looking to Aero/Cosmo that turn. Thanos: Cosmo their Lockjaw lane if you can. This one's rough though since they have so many options. If you can't predict which location that Lockjaw is coming down on, maybe go all in on two locations; but it's hard when they can move one of your cards sometimes. Since the deck is relatively tiny, and there's a pretty decent chance of being Leeched, if you can't predict Lockjaw/don't have Cosmo in hand, consider doing a 1 drop play on 3, so that you can drop She Hulk on 4, hopefully before Leech comes into play. This line of play is possible in other matchups, but I feel it's most important to be aware of in this one. Galactus: Again, Cosmo. Or Aero. If they have a Wolverine out but don't really seem to have a Destroy package going, try to Aero/Cosmo in response to any Wave that comes your way. Deathwave: If you have priority, Cosmo the Bucky Barnes/Deadpool lane. But generally, you just want to be ahead by turn 6, and Aero. This matchup, you can kinda figure out if you're winning this quite quickly depending on draws since both sides are aiming for win two lanes -> Aero. Yes, sometimes they can get 11 power or more by turn 3, but normally it's only in one lane, so if you feel you can't combat it, spread out quickly. Ramp: Probably a good matchup for you, especially if they're running the Sandman variant because you will outpower them with relative ease. Cerebro: All variants of this is tough for me, just because I tend to forget this archetype exists and it looks so innocent for so long. Did they draw Cerebro + Mystique? Uphill battle unless I draw Shuri Red Skull Tasky since there's no way to block ongoing unless you do a psychic Cosmo on Mystique. Patriot: Haven't seen a lot of this when I run Shuri, but typically outpower them and maybe...Cosmo their Ultron. Or Aero + 1 drop the bot onto an empty lane. Hazmat: You might want to hold off on playing more small cards and instead focus on a few big bois. And also, Cosmo that Hazmat. Apologies if some of these seem obvious or redundant. They're rough guidelines for lines of play that I'm looking to hit, and yeah, sometimes I can't do it or I get a bad hand or they drew really well, it happens.
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boar guy posted:i had to see this, now you have to see it too LOOK AT IT
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she looks like the safety salamander for some reason
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Artelier posted:Good Shuri stuff Yeah at a certain point I'm going to have to accept that its me and not the deck. That's kind of why I prefer Captain Marvel to Vision, if I 50/50 which lane they're going to play sometimes she fixes my mistake. I'm just sick of these massive swings. Last night going into today I was climbing again to 44, then as the day progressed I got beat back down to 42. Maybe I'm just destined to stay in my 40's. Earlier seasons I got nearly to 80.
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Artelier posted:... Shut down double On Reveal? That's crazy, I love playing Shuri on those locations. Same with Sinister London, or Bar Sinister. There's very, very little other decks can do against the ridiculous power you can put down. Well, except Shang, but a 30 Red Skull is equally vulnerable to Shang as a 240 one so that doesn't matter. As for counters: if they Aero you on 5, there seems like a 90% chance they Shang you on 6.
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I don't have Valkyrie yet, but she seems to be pretty good at dealing with Shuri / taskmaster / red skull shenanigans.
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Except that she's on reveal and does nothing if the lane has been Cosmo'd.
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Chainclaw posted:I don't have Valkyrie yet, but she seems to be pretty good at dealing with Shuri / taskmaster / red skull shenanigans.
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You snap turn 5 with invisible woman and drop something behind her. I hit her with Rogue and watch your MODOK kill your Hela. We are not the same.
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Push El Burrito posted:You snap turn 5 with invisible woman and drop something behind her. I hit her with Rogue and watch your MODOK kill your Hela. We are not the same. Yeah, if you're counting on invisible woman to protect your poo poo, you gotta be realllllllll careful when you snap because the counters to that are absolutely immense. Cosmo and Aero are both staple tech cards that will 100% gently caress up your day. Combine that with Rogue and Enchantress and you're gonna have a bad time. I can't count the number of times I've pulled a big combo component off the top of IW on the last turn to gently caress up an entire game for someone.
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Valkyrie is good against Galactus isn't she? Fucks up whatever heavy hitter they had lined up for you.
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New Leaf posted:Valkyrie is good against Galactus isn't she? Fucks up whatever heavy hitter they had lined up for you. She can't beat Knull, right?
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BoldFace posted:She can't beat Knull, right? Ah, I guess not..
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New Leaf posted:Valkyrie is good against Galactus isn't she? Fucks up whatever heavy hitter they had lined up for you. not really she's 5 energy, so it's often kind of hard to lose priority vs. the "nerfed" 2 power Galactus and then have enough bodies in the lane to tie/come out ahead and she's not exactly a great play into Knull e;fb
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I prefer Captain Marvel over Vision in a Shuri deck because you can play Captain Marvel into a T6 Aero and she can move back to the lane they were trying to pull you from.
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Played a battle mode mode against a friend, I was running Cerebro 2 and they brought a lane control deck with spider/X and Valkyrie of all things. Managed to get ahead by Icemanning their Prof X 4 games in a row, then they got their Valk drops 4 games in a row. I got Cerebro and Mystique down on 6 but they got Valk down to throw off my lanes. BUT WAIT After drawing M'baku in my opening hand all 7 games before this, he flies out and wins me the 2nd lane and the match. What a guy.
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Pixeltendo posted:
this is a game where you want 4 wolverines, 4 sabertooths, and nothing else
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Does aero randomly pick which card to move in a 'two cards are played but only one spot to move it to' situation? Or is it in the order they are played
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What's the point of Master Mold? Fill their hand with stuff so they can't draw? Make their Devil Dinos stronger? More discard fodder for their Jared Leto? Seems absurdly niche and borderline unplayable.
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New Leaf posted:What's the point of Master Mold? Fill their hand with stuff so they can't draw? Make their Devil Dinos stronger? More discard fodder for their Jared Leto? Seems absurdly niche and borderline unplayable. Master Mold's also weak to Storm. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZD0fKnA7UDg
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New Leaf posted:What's the point of Master Mold? Fill their hand with stuff so they can't draw? Make their Devil Dinos stronger? More discard fodder for their Jared Leto? Seems absurdly niche and borderline unplayable. Combos with Ronan and Maximus I guess. Disrupts non-Modok discard plays sirtommygunn fucked around with this message at 19:16 on Mar 14, 2023 |
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Snazzy Frocks posted:Does aero randomly pick which card to move in a 'two cards are played but only one spot to move it to' situation? Or is it in the order they are played Random, which is a complaint about her. If it was in order played, or reverse order played, there would be some counterplay available.
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New Leaf posted:What's the point of Master Mold? Fill their hand with stuff so they can't draw? Make their Devil Dinos stronger? More discard fodder for their Jared Leto? Seems absurdly niche and borderline unplayable. Lmao If you're not playing on curve from turn 2 you draw no cards the rest of the game. It will enable an entire archetype of hand control with Widow, Iceman, Absorb, Ronan, etc. It hard counters ramp and top end decks that don't play much early. Bottom Liner fucked around with this message at 19:19 on Mar 14, 2023 |
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If your opponent has a greedy curve or is just getting terrible draws you're denying them different cards from their deck after turn 2. It makes Dracula a less attractive play early on (4 energy for 3 power? eww), it could disrupt Dracula on a later turn. Edit: And yeah, Ronan is a card I guess.
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Since buying Aero last night I've gone from hovering at 35 for a week to 55. Seems like a pretty good card.
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