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There's expensive therapy for restoring essence, about 100,000 per .1 points. The gist here is that the problem is capitalism.
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GhostStalker posted:The thing is that there’s no mechanical way to gain Essence. Unless you're a vampire! It'll steadily drain away over time though. wiegieman posted:There's expensive therapy for restoring essence, about 100,000 per .1 points. True, but you can't use it to get over the normal human baseline of essence. Also specifically doesn't restore essence lost to Leonization, so no actual immortality if you're rich enough yet.
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the fact they didn't make Leonization just straight-up "its vampirism minus a couple of the more obvious vampire side effects" was a real missed opportunity
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Yeowch!!! My Balls!!! posted:the fact they didn't make Leonization just straight-up "its vampirism minus a couple of the more obvious vampire side effects" was a real missed opportunity Sure, they aren't literally sucking you dry or anything, but most people who get it are corporate executives so they were already metaphorically doing that.
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NeverHelm posted:That is what they did, though. The HMHVV thing mentioned before (well, one strain of it at least) is what causes vampirism (the first V is for "vampirism"). which is why the literally needing to do it would have been a good, also entertaining gag. congrats, we can give you... LEONIZATION! just, uh. come over for dinner. no reason
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It's really funny it came around to that because the original legend for vampires is really, really, really unsubtle.
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Yeowch!!! My Balls!!! posted:the fact they didn't make Leonization just straight-up "its vampirism minus a couple of the more obvious vampire side effects" was a real missed opportunity 100% it should require them to process poor people by the dozens for the materials. Subtlety is useless, come at it with a goddam sledgehammer or people won't get it.
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wiegieman, there's a Mr. Thiel calling on line one for you.
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GhostStalker posted:IIRC it’s eventually ruinous on your Essence (you have to keep getting the treatments, and it’s a minor Essence hit every time? Even getting breast or penis implants costs you 0.25 Essence IIRC in one of the 5th Edition ‘ware splatbooks, and you start out with 6 Essence points at character creation) so that’s a baseline I guess you can use), and is supposed to be developed from horribly unethical (natch) biomedical megacorp research on HMHVV (aka the virus that turns metahumans into ghouls and other nasty creatures), so that’s a thing. So what you're telling me is that I can have 20 dicks and still be functional but once I get that 21st I turn into a cyberzombie.
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That's how most tables run it in practice yeah.
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KataraniSword posted:So what you're telling me is that I can have 20 dicks and still be functional but once I get that 21st I turn into a cyberzombie. I'm fairly sure that that's Numberwang.
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Rogue AI Goddess posted:The way I see it, having particularly *high* Essence should have a similar effect, as you become increasingly untethered from material reality and closer to kaleidoscopic lights and mesmerizing flows beyond it. Go low enough and you're a human spirit trapped inside a fetish of machinery and rotting flesh!
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KataraniSword posted:So what you're telling me is that I can have 20 dicks and still be functional but once I get that 21st I turn into a cyberzombie.
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KataraniSword posted:So what you're telling me is that I can have 20 dicks and still be functional but once I get that 21st I turn into a cyberzombie. Your math seems off here, but RAW, you’re probably correct.
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KataraniSword posted:So what you're telling me is that I can have 20 dicks and still be functional but once I get that 21st I turn into a cyberzombie. no, you die unless a necromancer makes it so you only wish you were dead.
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BUILD ME A CYBERZOMBIE WITH ALL OF THE DICKS, ALL OF THEM
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Shadowrun: The Malatoran Job
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There have to be some rich idiots investing heavily in full cyber dracomorph design. building a functional body in the size of an actual dragon is probably impossible because of the amount of mass involved but something closer to human size that can fly is definitely on the table.
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By popular demand posted:There have to be some rich idiots investing heavily in full cyber dracomorph design. Drakes do exist as servitors of the Greater Dragons and the like, so I would think any corp trying to make something similar would likely tread very carefully, lest they end up bought out by SK, their research shut down, and then become the next person Lofywr douses in ketchup.
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At some point, you might as well just upload your consciousness into whatever robot shell suits your fancy.
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Boat Stuck posted:At some point, you might as well just upload your consciousness into whatever robot shell suits your fancy.
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The Leonization discussion gave me the idea for a character: A regular runner, whatever sort of low-cyber low-magic type strikes my fancy, but with only 5 essence (minus cyberware) and an immense knowledge of history (and/or one specific megacorp) and tendency to talk about it in first-person. I'd need to talk to my friend that knows a lot more about Shadowrun, but "Leonized CEO now a runner for whatever reason" strikes me as a cool concept. Like maybe the Leonization bankrupted their corp or something.
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Dareon posted:The Leonization discussion gave me the idea for a character: A regular runner, whatever sort of low-cyber low-magic type strikes my fancy, but with only 5 essence (minus cyberware) and an immense knowledge of history (and/or one specific megacorp) and tendency to talk about it in first-person. I'd need to talk to my friend that knows a lot more about Shadowrun, but "Leonized CEO now a runner for whatever reason" strikes me as a cool concept. Like maybe the Leonization bankrupted their corp or something. Not necessarily a CEO, it's not that expensive. But there's definitely corporate executives that were diligent about putting creds into their 401k who get to the point of actually being able to cash out and retire and then decide "Nah, gently caress it, lets try a new game + instead"
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Probably more popular than people would think: Plenty of obscenely rich persons make powerful enemies to run from, and also shadowrunners often become popular legendary figures to idiots who have no idea how brutal the world is outside a corporate arcology. How many of those 'I can totally become an underworld action hero' types actually survive the first 48 hours is not known.
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By popular demand posted:Probably more popular than people would think: Plenty of obscenely rich persons make powerful enemies to run from, “I’ve played a ton of Miracle Shooter and have the best skillsofts my A megacorp nuyen can buy! I got this!” They did not in fact have this.
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Even better is when Mr Johnson adds that your team has to take the CEO's failson who has delusions of being a shadowrunner along so that he gets it all out of his system, and make sure that he doesn't realise you're all in on it.
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Whybird posted:Even better is when Mr Johnson adds that your team has to take the CEO's failson who has delusions of being a shadowrunner along so that he gets it all out of his system, and make sure that he doesn't realise you're all in on it. Seems like an excellent opportunity for an enterprising team of runners. Whatever the run was before, it's now a ransom situation.
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GhostStalker posted:“I’ve played a ton of Miracle Shooter and have the best skillsofts my A megacorp nuyen can buy! I got this!” Military grade cyberware: hundreds of thousands Nuyen Crude shiv that sliced your vulnerable human neck when a gang of desperate randos spotted you standing alone with your shiny chrome and thanked God for the payday: negligible He only managed to wound a couple
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I dont know posted:Seems like an excellent opportunity for an enterprising team of runners. Whatever the run was before, it's now a ransom situation. An excellent opportunity for a team of runners to get chased down by top line corpsec who knows exactly where to find them at the behest of a very furious corp exec, and every fixer no longer taking their calls because a team that shivs you in the back after they've accepted your mission is a team that can't be relied on.
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By popular demand posted:Military grade cyberware: hundreds of thousands Nuyen Too cheap to get Dermal Armor or Bone Lacing to cover that vulnerability or at least a lined coat or an armored business suit? Corp brat was asking for it.
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But you see in those thrilling holo-novellas nobody ever fights this dirty!
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"While I was engaging one of them in honorable combat, the other three sidled around behind me and hit me in the back of the head with pipes, which never happens to Lance Chrome."
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Dareon posted:"While I was engaging one of them in honorable combat, the other three sidled around behind me and hit me in the back of the head with pipes, which never happens to Lance Chrome."
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girl dick energy posted:"And when I woke up, instead of being tied to a chair and interrogated by a sultry and morally-conflicted Elven doctor with attractively-messy hair, I was in a dumpster getting peed on by a rat while an ork shaman went through my pockets." Well? Did the ork shaman have attractively messy hair? 
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Quackles posted:Well? Did the ork shaman have attractively messy hair?  Judge for yourself, chummer.
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By popular demand posted:But you see in those thrilling holo-novellas nobody ever fights this dirty! Trideo-novella, most likely. Or a BTL/Kong Chip/CalHot, if they’re a corp brat “living on the edge”.
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girl dick energy posted:
Sure, good enough.
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girl dick energy posted:"And when I woke up, instead of being tied to a chair and interrogated by a sultry and morally-conflicted Elven doctor with attractively-messy hair, I was in a dumpster getting peed on by a rat while an ork shaman went through my pockets." Our new proprietary perception filters can help you with that. Just slot this personafix and you'll be seeing the sultriest orc you've ever seen as you awaken in a remarkably clean dumpster.
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The Lone Badger posted:Our new proprietary perception filters can help you with that. Just slot this personafix and you'll be seeing the sultriest orc you've ever seen as you awaken in a remarkably clean dumpster. That's just a bottle of Tequila.
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A bottle of enchanted tequila made by skilled Tijuana elves!
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