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Those RPG warhead drones aren't meant to be reusable anyway. They're a one use munition for targeting heavy equipment. The reusable heavy drones/octocopters etc. primarily use mortar rounds of various descriptions as their ammo.
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Mar 14, 2023 17:15
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Deki posted:NAFO memes are loving awful in a vacuum but throw 20 at them at some scraggly bearded contrarian's twitter and the ensuing butthurt is glorious. I think the terribleness is the point. It's like turning the Nazi playbook against them, being utterly loving idiotic in order to bring any opposition down to their level and beat them with stupidity, and show how not-to-be-taken-seriously they are. Someone posting unironic Russian propaganda can't talk them down (because they'll lose), they can't ignore them (because they'll flood the comments under their tweet), and any other option is basically admitting a loss too.
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Mar 14, 2023 17:20
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You're not going to have a good faith arguments with disinformation firehoses and various flavours of russian propaganda poo poo. Ridiculing them and drowing them out in fart noises is exactly what works.
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Mar 14, 2023 17:29
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Toxic Mental posted:Isn't that the guy who was a failed sex tourist and so he stayed in the country to try and get his incel revenge on Ukranian women by chain smoking and heavily drinking and being really fat? lol Wait are you saying that's a valid way of getting revenge on people? I've been going about this the entirely wrong way
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Mar 14, 2023 17:35
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Power Khan posted:You're not going to have a good faith arguments with disinformation firehoses and various flavours of russian propaganda poo poo. Ridiculing them and drowing them out in fart noises is exactly what works. I don't know if you've seen the rules here but doing that is somehow "cringe" so let's show some decorum to the terrible humans both perpetrating war crimes as well as those licking their boots.
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Mar 14, 2023 17:40
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Deki posted:NAFO memes are loving awful in a vacuum but throw 20 at them at some scraggly bearded contrarian's twitter and the ensuing butthurt is glorious. Lazerpig claimed that he asked into it, and a Ukrainian rep told him that Lira stayed in Ukraine after ratting out his collaborators, but grew so paranoid that he would be killed that he didn't leave his apartment at all. Police did a wellness check to find him begging to be escorted out of the country. That's entirely from a Youtuber with a goofy name though, so take it with a pound of salt.
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Mar 14, 2023 17:43
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Flyinglemur posted:I don't know if you've seen the rules here but doing that is somehow "cringe" so let's show some decorum to the terrible humans both perpetrating war crimes as well as those licking their boots. I think having a normal chat about the outcome of nafo is probably ok rather than posting memes from nafo which is what I assume the rules means. Mods?
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Mar 14, 2023 17:43
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Russian propaganda. Now that poo poo is cringe. Speaking of, has the west done anything to gently caress with Russia's beloved propagandists? Besides sanctions?
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Mar 14, 2023 17:49
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Tai posted:I think having a normal chat about the outcome of nafo is probably ok rather than posting memes from nafo which is what I assume the rules means. 
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Mar 14, 2023 17:50
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Pennsylvanian posted:Lazerpig claimed that he asked into it, and a Ukrainian rep told him that Lira stayed in Ukraine after ratting out his collaborators, but grew so paranoid that he would be killed that he didn't leave his apartment at all. Police did a wellness check to find him begging to be escorted out of the country. That's entirely from a Youtuber with a goofy name though, so take it with a pound of salt. If true then lol But also, it shows that: 1) Even during an full-scale invasion that poses an existential threat, Ukraine is still permitting explicitly pro-Russia foreign political 'commentators' to operate unhindered on its territory. 2) Police even carried out a wellness check - during wartime when their resources are presumably stretched - in order to check up on his safety and wellbeing. That's evidence of functioning institutions, respect for rule of law and freedom of the press. Neo-Nazi Banderite Regime my rear end.
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Mar 14, 2023 17:53
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Tigey posted:Just upset because even a single avatar makes their oh so serious reporting look ridiculous. No academics or commentators chiming in, just an army of terminally online nobodies and ridicule from cartoon dogs. TBH it's also pretty cringe to see Serious OSINT Threat Analysis Engineers furiously dismissing the cartoon dogs, because rallying against a dictator through ridicule is definitely an unprecedented, ahistoric level of silliness.
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Mar 14, 2023 18:03
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Speaking of drones... https://mobile.twitter.com/MailOnline/status/1635688402745012242 https://mobile.twitter.com/CinemaShogun/status/1635689712194138118
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Mar 14, 2023 18:08
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Tai posted:I think having a normal chat about the outcome of nafo is probably ok rather than posting memes from nafo which is what I assume the rules means. Yes it's completely fine to discuss the infowar (lol!!!) which is just a modern aspect of this war and war in general. What we don't want are the image macros like the one in the OP that seem to trivialize a brutal war.
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Mar 14, 2023 18:08
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Tarquinn posted:Speaking of drones... Is anyone other than the Mail stating it was a crash? Other outlets are using more circumspect language and saying a Russian fighter "forced down" the drone, which could be read as a physical collision, but this is the first report confirming a collision.
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Mar 14, 2023 18:10
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Pro Russian dipshits are just mad they can't vomit out their misinformation and lies without pushback any more. Doesn't matter how mad they get about it, anything that puts a crimp in the day of professional liars and the scum of humanity is fine by me. If it makes them quit because of rage, even better. Anything beyond this is just a bonus when it comes to worthless propagandists.
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Mar 14, 2023 18:10
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zone posted:Those RPG warhead drones aren't meant to be reusable anyway. They're a one use munition for targeting heavy equipment. The reusable heavy drones/octocopters etc. primarily use mortar rounds of various descriptions as their ammo. Even the "reusuable" quadcopters and octocopters are consumables. There was an interview recently with an Ukrainian artillery brigade commanders, and he said that while most drones sent to artillery companies last a week before blowing up, most drones sent to infantry companies last half a day before blowing up.
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Mar 14, 2023 18:11
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the holy poopacy posted:Is anyone other than the Mail stating it was a crash? Other outlets are using more circumspect language and saying a Russian fighter "forced down" the drone, which could be read as a physical collision, but this is the first report confirming a collision. https://twitter.com/NatashaBertrand/status/1635685779639873540 EUCOM confirmed a collision.
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Mar 14, 2023 18:13
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the holy poopacy posted:Is anyone other than the Mail stating it was a crash? Other outlets are using more circumspect language and saying a Russian fighter "forced down" the drone, which could be read as a physical collision, but this is the first report confirming a collision. e: you know what, I got this second hand and I should not contribute to possible disinformation
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Mar 14, 2023 18:13
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edit: not needed.
Just Another Lurker fucked around with this message at 18:16 on Mar 14, 2023 |
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Mar 14, 2023 18:13
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Just Another Lurker posted:That's the Daily Mail (Daily Heil), i'm going to need a trustworthy source to verify that. The BBC just sent me a push notification BBC but not that Big Beef City guy posted:A Russian fighter jet has collided with a US drone over the Black Sea, forcing the US Air Force to bring down its unmanned aircraft, the American military says.
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Mar 14, 2023 18:15
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Just Another Lurker posted:That's the Daily Mail (Daily Heil), i'm going to need a trustworthy source to verify that. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-64957792 bbc isnt much better these days, but still.
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Mar 14, 2023 18:16
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That's probably enough to completely crash the Russian jet too, I'd assume? I mean those things are the size of school busses and weigh about the same. I guess I'm just not sure what the context is, did the Russian jet bonk into the drone's wing trying to tip it, or was it some kind of head-on collision?
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Mar 14, 2023 18:16
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the holy poopacy posted:Is anyone other than the Mail stating it was a crash? Other outlets are using more circumspect language and saying a Russian fighter "forced down" the drone, which could be read as a physical collision, but this is the first report confirming a collision. The jet apparently dumped it's fuel before the collision which means it was almost definitely intentional
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Mar 14, 2023 18:17
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B-Rock452 posted:The jet apparently dumped it's fuel before the collision which means it was almost definitely intentional It dumped fuel ON the drone.
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Mar 14, 2023 18:17
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https://www.dvidshub.net/news/440347/russian-aircraft-collides-into-us-unmanned-system-international-watersquote:Two Russian Su-27 aircraft conducted an unsafe and unprofessional intercept with a U.S. Air Force Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance unmanned MQ-9 aircraft that was operating within international airspace over the Black Sea today. Sounds like some Russian fighters were behaving recklessly in international air space, which isn't without precedent.
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Mar 14, 2023 18:18
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Toxic Mental posted:That's probably enough to completely crash the Russian jet too, I'd assume? I mean those things are the size of school busses and weigh about the same. Regardless of whether it crashed or was merely damaged the russians' in their infinite wisdom hurt more from even minor damage of their aircraft (vis-a-vis sanctions limiting their ability to repair them) than the US does from the loss of a multi-million dollar drone.
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Mar 14, 2023 18:18
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https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1635661279829344257 More unconnected, unsupported Copelerone pieces set up near Melitopol.
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Mar 14, 2023 18:18
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B-Rock452 posted:The jet apparently dumped it's fuel before the collision which means it was almost definitely intentional What a costly maneuver
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Mar 14, 2023 18:18
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Here's the official press release: https://www.eucom.mil/pressrelease/42314/russian-aircraft-collides-into-us-unmanned-system-in-international-waters quote:Russian aircraft collides into US unmanned system in international waters
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Mar 14, 2023 18:19
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Toxic Mental posted:That's probably enough to completely crash the Russian jet too, I'd assume? I mean those things are the size of school busses and weigh about the same. I guess I'm just not sure what the context is, did the Russian jet bonk into the drone's wing trying to tip it, or was it some kind of head-on collision? Considering the jet cost like twice as much as the reaper seems like a bad trade if it did went down.
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Mar 14, 2023 18:20
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Oh suddenly we care about the environmental impact of dumping fuel 
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Mar 14, 2023 18:23
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You have to be pretty goddamn ignorant/stupid to risk your life trying to intimidate an unmanned drone to the point that you collide with it though. The only thing the drone pilot in an office in Nevada sipping a coffee likely thought was "WTF is wrong with these people? Are they drunk or suicidal?" The_Franz fucked around with this message at 18:29 on Mar 14, 2023 |
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Mar 14, 2023 18:27
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The_Franz posted:You have to be pretty goddamn ignorant/stupid to risk your life trying to intimidate an unmanned drone though. It was looking at me weird 
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Mar 14, 2023 18:27
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The_Franz posted:You have to be pretty goddamn ignorant/stupid to risk your life trying to intimidate an unmanned drone though. Pilot unresponsive, requesting permission to engage
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Mar 14, 2023 18:28
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LaserPrinter69 posted:Oh suddenly we care about the environmental impact of dumping fuel I mean when you're writing the official response you might as well throw it in there 
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Mar 14, 2023 18:29
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russia needed extra spare parts for it's air force. Simples
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Mar 14, 2023 18:30
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drop fuel on me, daddy Su-27
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Mar 14, 2023 18:37
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Tarquinn posted:Speaking of drones... "One step closer to the inevitable" Isn't the entire point of drones that you can go "Eh, unbox another one" when dumb poo poo like this happens?
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Mar 14, 2023 18:38
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Yeah the difference between crashing or engaging a manned plane vs. an unmanned drone is a lot different, they've very clearly hugely different magnitudes.
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Mar 14, 2023 18:40
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Their plane likely did not go down because 1. The USA would be blasting that poo poo from the roof tops if it did. And 2. Because they just clipped the prop which probably did some form of structural damage to whatever clipped it, but it's not like they full body rammed it.
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