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Sunk Dunk posted:I have a dumb question. Why do the names of the constructors change so much? For example I saw someone mention Audi and I was thinking to myself Audi doesn’t have a team that I know of. Then I saw they will be replacing Alfa. Current Alfa Romeo is actually a team called Sauber who Alfa Romeo is paying to brand their cars as Alfa Romeo for marketing purposes. Audi is buying the team itself and will be supplying engines for the car when their purchase goes through in 2026.
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which is better? tires that last the full race + refueling? or no refueling + you gotta change tires all the time? my impression from older races is that full race tires + refueling makes better racing, plus more exciting pit lane screwups
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Sunk Dunk posted:I have a dumb question. Why do the names of the constructors change so much? For example I saw someone mention Audi and I was thinking to myself Audi doesn’t have a team that I know of. Then I saw they will be replacing Alfa. constructors change because running an F1 team costs like a quarter billion dollars a year and if you want to win you need at least another 300 million in your catering budget because your caterers only do lunch in the wind tunnel
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the paradigm shift posted:they'd still gently caress it up by making him shave his eyebrow or something You can't do that, he'd lose all his powers
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the milk machine posted:which is better? tires that last the full race + refueling? or no refueling + you gotta change tires all the time? If it's at a real course and not an oval, Indycar is interesting to watch in this respect. Those cars must have a fuel cell the size of my bladder, they're refueling like every 8 laps at Road America. Also I think the car designs looks pretty cool
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Pit lane refueling is fun: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAa6JW2rMg0
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Just-In-Timeberlake posted:If it's at a real course and not an oval, Indycar is interesting to watch in this respect. Those cars must have a fuel cell the size of my bladder, they're refueling like every 8 laps at Road America. i enjoy watching indycar when they're not doing ovals. the street circuit at st pete was a shitshow
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I think it’s kinda cool they mix road and ovals in Indy
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the milk machine posted:which is better? tires that last the full race + refueling? or no refueling + you gotta change tires all the time? Full race tyres was the nadir of all formulae.
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Sunk Dunk posted:I think it’s kinda cool they mix road and ovals in Indy it's neat they mix them, i just find oval racing to be mostly pretty boring to watch for more than a few minutes Khablam posted:Full fuel + tyre changing is the second best, but there's a large gap between that and the absolute best, which is tyres + refuelling. interesting, i gotta find some tires + refueling races to watch
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All this Indy and full race tires talk is reminding me of the greatest race in F1 history. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hY1K1QcwHH0
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FAUXTON posted:constructors change because running an F1 team costs like a quarter billion dollars a year and if you want to win you need at least another 300 million in your catering budget because your caterers only do lunch in the wind tunnel lol Khablam posted:Full fuel + tyre changing is the second best, but there's a large gap between that and the absolute best, which is tyres + refuelling. khablam is correct on this one
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Saying “I like Indycar except for the ovals” is like saying “I listen to everything but rap”
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The Illusive Man posted:Saying “I like Indycar except for the ovals” is like saying “I listen to everything but rap” ovals are country
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max was just bodying people online in iracing this week in the new formula ford car. this is why i like him, never stops racing. kiss me max
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Sunk Dunk posted:max was just bodying people online in iracing this week in the new formula ford car. this is why i like him, never stops racing. kiss me max yet he complains when he's on the receiving end 
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The Illusive Man posted:Saying “I like Indycar except for the ovals” is like saying “I listen to everything but rap” rap doesn’t put me to sleep though
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ArmZ posted:yet he complains when he's on the receiving end "What an idiot. This guy only knows how to drive and start in first."
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Sunk Dunk posted:I have a dumb question. Why do the names of the constructors change so much? For example I saw someone mention Audi and I was thinking to myself Audi doesn’t have a team that I know of. Then I saw they will be replacing Alfa. Mostly because they sell the name-drop as the prime advertising slot, like how football stadiums get random brand names. It's why Mercedes is AMG Petronas Mercedes. To a lesser degree, there is some attrition and reselling of the smaller teams, especially when they exist as some millionaire's weekend hobby rather than semi-sustainable business - especially since it's much, much easier to buy an underperforming existing team than build a new one from the grounds up (and be accepted to the sport at all). Right now, it's the saga of whatever the Strolls are doing. To an even lesser degree, there's some marketing execs making marketing choices, as these teams are usually marketing vessels for their owners - I'm thinking about Renault -> Alpine and Redbull 2: Electric Boogaloo -> Alphatauri.
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Elendil004 posted:I want to get into the current season so I dont know if I can take a break and do a whole older f1 season. I would recommend watching the older season reviews with Clive James, something like this playlist. Each season review is only about as long as a race so it's a lot easier to get through.
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the milk machine posted:interesting, i gotta find some tires + refueling races to watch Overall 94-99 is probably F1's best run of years. Hungary 98 and France 2004 to understand why the Schumacher + Ross Braun dream team won for 5 years running.
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Khablam posted:1994 to 2009 is the primary refuelling era. 2005 is the bad year™ ah yeah i've seen some from 2005, lol tyvm for the recommendations
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Spa 98 if you’d like to understand how strategy worked with having a single reserve car for the team.
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Spa 21 if you’d like to understand how strategy worked with having a single lap for the race.
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Hakkinen years best years
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FAUXTON posted:Spa 21 if you’d like to understand how strategy worked with having a single lap for the race. Spa 21 if you'd like to figure out how a car doesn't start the race because of a crash on the formation lap, but then finishes 7th.
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I've been watching the 2006 season (Alonso + Renault combo) and the cars are loud as gently caress. The commentators are still poo poo though.
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MustardFacial posted:Isn't Canada 2011 like 8 hours or something? Oh yeah you might be right, woops.
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Canada 2011 owns. They changed the rules afterwards because it owned for such a large amount of time.
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MustardFacial posted:Isn't Canada 2011 like 8 hours or something? The actual race was classified at 4hrs and something, which means the winner's average speed for the race is something like 50mph. Please don't spoil that for anyone mad enough to see these recommendations and watch it all.
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Pretty sure 4/5 of the Baku races have been amazing
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Just watching Drive to survive now. This episode where Mick keeps crashing is spot on. Gunther talking trash about him to Gene is even better.
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hi gene
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Sunk Dunk posted:I have a dumb question. Why do the names of the constructors change so much? For example I saw someone mention Audi and I was thinking to myself Audi doesn’t have a team that I know of. Then I saw they will be replacing Alfa. Some teams aren’t actually owned by the company with its name on the team. Other teams are but also sell naming rights or change the name a little bit to emphasize whatever the parent wants to emphasize, like how Merc is Mercedes-Benz AMG Petronas: Merc wants to put its AMG branding in an obvious spot and Petronas also gives them money. Alfa Romeo is actually a private racing company called Sauber, as mentioned, but sold its naming rights. The same is true for this year’s Aston Martin team; it’s not owned by AM, it just sold its branding rights. The Aston Martin branding used to be stuck on the Red Bull and that team was called Aston Martin Red Bull. If the branding is of a car company there’s usually some claim that the team is benefiting from their technical expertise but that doesn’t necessarily mean anything real. Branding exercises can get complicated for arcane reasons or for simple ones like people doing business without getting along. Red Bull engines used to say TAG Heuer on them back when they were made by Renault for reasons that I think have to do with Christian Horner being a dick.
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